Love those top-corner saves where he goes with the 'wrong' hand. I've not seen other goalkeepers do it as regularly as he does.
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We don't concede many chances. That's the main "issue".
Carrick is as good as any DM around and is hugely underrated, Valencia is up there as a RB for me over the last year. Think quite right Miki has a claim. On top of that we hand players putting in world class displays (Herrera, Bailly etc) that if they maintain that level will be world class.
Another vital save from Spider-Dave!
Amazing how we are sitting at the 6th place with what, 6 world class players and a few that play on a world-class level at the moment?
They are all great, but if Carrick is world class at the moment, what is Busquets or Modric/Kroos when they are playing as a pivot? If Valencia is world class (without any crossing ability), what is Carvajal or Lahm?
Yeh that's the annoying thing, our squad is comfortably better than the teams above bar perhaps city. A lot of our top players haven't hit the ground running and tactically we still have some way to go, but the team is getting there. I predict that in he second half of the season we will gather the most points.
Most beautiful flying llama in history of the world.
Randolph had a good one saving from Henderson the other day. I think De Gea's tonight might have been even better.
Another classic de gea moment - missed seeing them. Brilliant save.
A month ago we had people here calling for him to be dropped.
An absolute world class player and potential legend. We owe it to him to win him many trophies!
Not sure we did. One spill in the LC does not equal 'peaked too early'. First name on anyone's team sheet.
Hilarious stuff.
DDG is world class for sure other than that.. Pogba has world class potential and that's it.
I'm too lazy to go back now and look for them posts but there was few people that actually wanted him dropped after West Ham game.
People still think it was an accident
Put you on ignore, and reported for consistent wumming. You like those alerts, don't you?
On topic, what a save that was. Kept us in the game. I'm glad the fax machine didn't work.
Wouldn't surprise me sadly. Hope he's still here in 10 years.
Amen!
That save was fecking immense. We were holding on. I loved Barthez despite the odd calamity. Immense reflexes.
Fantastic save. But then again, you kinda expect him to save it such is his ability. He somewhat makes it looks so easy and natural.
Which is crazy, since it gives you the best reach. Thats why I always find it funny when nonGk pundits make comments like "why is he going with his wrong hand?" etc.
Which is crazy, since it gives you the best reach. Thats why I always find it funny when nonGk pundits make comments like "why is he going with his wrong hand?" etc.
If you go with what is considered the 'wrong' arm, you wouldn't normally get the same reach, I don't think. At least that is what I was told when I played in goal in my youth. You can perhaps reach further across the goal with the 'right' arm, but not as high up the frame of the goal. De Gea seems to sort of twist his body to gain extra reach with the 'wrong' arm to get that reach both high and across the goal to stop those right-in-the-top-corner shots. It's largely unorthodox, but the best goalkeepers usually are.
As if he had people doubting him just a few weeks ago, and calls for Romero to start. I'm a fan of Romero, and he's as good as you get in a #2, but he's not saving that.
I expect us to concede some time soon after he makes a wonder save. I swear we have never kept a clean sheet in games that he has made these ridiculous saves in. Angers me no end that he doesn't get the clean sheets that the saves deserve.
Haha, when I was younger, I was taught you always do when you go with the other hand.
Try it when youre lying down. Try and reach up to your top left with your left hand then your right. Your right can extend further and get the further reach higher
Using what will become the top arm in a diving save does allow for a longer & higher reach due to the top arm's connectivity to the same-side leg helping by creating thrust by 'launching' one's knee to get the most lift & height Played GK @ every level &, early on, was taught to shuffle as long as possible, then fire off (throwing the knee across the body) w/ that leg to generate both height/length in the dive & allowing for the top hand being the one which is outstretched. A quintessential top hand save cannot be done w/ the bottom hand due to no connectivity w/ the leg that is creating the thrust to help get the GK both airborne & long horizontally; the bottom hand often times just becomes the initial cushion for the body due to its hitting of the turf first. This style of save is to try to make that heightened elongation to attempt to get those top 90 shots (as DDG did away @ Chelsea in his first year, away against Everton last year when the first shot was deflected back, but he committed to it; he then was able to get up & use the top hand technique, away @ Ajax, etc.).
Oddly enough, Steve Heighway, my club coach in the late 80s, actually wanted less leg thrust, more shuffling to the side of shot, & attempt a bottom hand save. During that time, especially in America, the 'throw your leg over' style was still being taught.
That said, that style of shot stopping has its challenges: potentially un-sighting of the ball by the top hand as the top arm can typically will crossover the GK's eyes during the initial 'launching' of the same-sided arm/leg. It also creates the problem of injury, especially in younger players, as the body can tend to roll over & put the GK parallel to the ground, facing down. The injuries can range from knocking one's wind, face/head being the first hit the turf, serious shoulder injuries, & broken collarbones to the more unlikely, coming down on the ball or a player's boot in the stomach. To make such save, the body needs to be in top physical shape.
Now that keepers are often times well over 6 feet tall, such a top hand save style is not nearly as needed as much. DDG's utterly amazing save, tipping the ball around the bar going to his right (against Stoke, I believe). That is a perfect example of how the overall size of body height & longer reach making a top hand save really only needed for an upper corner strike while being able to see the ball a good portion of its strike. Nowadays, the physical prowess of the modern keeper allows him to make the majority of saves w/ the bottom hand (Buffon has been the perfect example of this current style of GK, the new orthodox, no 'TV keeper style' to getting to the ball any way possible). DDG has basically mastered both types of saves that require a GK to leave his feet.
I fully expect 'tl/dr's due to my short story long, but I just wanted to add to the thread what my experiences were.
He's mostly had very little to do this season and must be bored out of his mind.
His technique on that save was textbook. He went with the correct arm and any 'keeper who tries to use their left in that situation is doing it wrong. Here in Australia Mark Bosnich gives a fair bit of analysis on goalkeeping. Of course he has his faults but he knows what he is talking about.
Well said. There are two different orthodoxies for making saves once one leaves one's feet, this 'top arm/hand' style being the only one that will allow for the most coverage of the goal mouth. It is the technique that allows DDG to pick balls out of the top corner of the goal.
I'm surprised about the agreement of this using the opposite arm thing. It seems illogical to me and rather a combination of just being one-handed and poor movement of the feet.
I'm gonna watch some VDS vids to see if he did that. He's the best example of elite fundamentals and positioning..
I'm gonna watch some VDS vids to see if he did that. He's the best example of elite fundamentals and positioning..
It is kind of interesting in a nerdy. Had never thought about it in such detail before.
DDG is so amazing at unorthdox saves with his legs and feet too.
It's mad to think he's eclipsed our second best keeper already and is well on the way to eclipsing our greatest ever.
See I'm going to contradict myself here but whilst I think the 'other' hand saves thing is unorthodox, I actually think usings his legs ARE orthodox and baffled why keepers try to keep a low centre of gravity and try to save those low and close shots with their hands. You have to position your balance of weight in a way that you're totally compromising your saving ability to reach those areas AND be upright for any other scenarios.
I read a clickbait article in F365 naming as one of the worst gk in the Premier League. I had no idea that there were calls for him in this thread to be dropped this season as well.
He needs to win far far more with us before he even begins to be compared to either of them tbh.
So far he has won one league title with us, and cost us another one.
He's not even the worst keeper in the city.
If the rest of the team played to the standard he has played for the past three seasons, we would be breaking records. It's a team game and a great keeper can only carry you so far.
I doubt VDS could have done any more than De Gea.
I can't agree with that. He's third in the modern era.
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