Of course you can. But when it is a terrible one then quite rightly you're going to get called out on it.
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Of course you can. But when it is a terrible one then quite rightly you're going to get called out on it.
Whether he dived or not, he wouldnt have caught it. From that distance and angle, all he could do was pray that the shot wouldnt be as accurate. You were talking about a guy who has bailed our asses time and time again.
If he didn't jump then it simply means there was no point in doing so. He deserves much more respect than what you displayed.
Yeah, after watching the replay i understood the same. Its just the emotions, draw after draw after draw. It was a torture. But I agree it was stupid.
I understand why De Gea ushered Herrera away, because Ander coming back to defend the kick on the line played more Swansea players onside, but Sigurdsson was always gonna shoot from that range. He badly misjudged the set up for the free kick.
Doesn't matter any way cos he'll be off to Madrid soon anyhow.
Doesn't matter any way cos he'll be off to Madrid soon anyhow.
Even if he dived he wasn't saving that.
He didn't misjudge anything. And how do you know Sigurdsson would have shot if Herrera was stood there? Were you there next to him?
That's like asking how do you know Juninho would shoot from range or Ronaldo would shoot from range. Sigurdsson is well known as a set piece specialist. If the ball is within range for him to have a crack he will.
Then I wanna apologize for reacting like that.
No, he wouldn't have saved it as it was a perfect freekick. I just don't like the way he moved Ander out then didn't even dive for it.
Yes and I'm sure he has rarely seems opponent on the line for one of his free kicks. He could have chipped the ball to Llorente. Sigurdsson was going through a dry spell. Also they were having a long debate about who should take the free kick before he pulled rank.
I was surprised De Gea didn't take a more central position, even with the wall there. It was obvious all day long the ball was coming over the wall to his left hand side. It was never going to come the other way. The angle for that was all wrong, and there was zero chance anyone but Gylfi was taking it once he had lined it up. I think he needed to gamble a little bit. He'd probably still struggle to get across even if he was central, but he'd have a bit of a better chance.
He was almost standing by the other post, even though he know Sigurdsson will place it over or around the wall, by the other post.
No idea why he didn't stand more in the middle of the goal, then he would have a chance to get there.
Exactly!
He kept us ahead with his saves up until that free-kick. As if he got carried away telling Herrera to move that he has forgotten about the incoming ball. Not much he could do about it in all honesty, shot was perfect.
That was the perfect free kick, have no idea why anyone would think he's to blame.
Pretty much sum everything up of our frustrations.
It's weird De Gea doesn't seem to anticipate the target of the free kick - top left of his, and he left a lot of easy big spaces there for the Swansea's Capt to score. I doubt Mourinho doesn't know this nor doesn't instruct the team concerning this.Credits to Swansea though, and Gylfi Sigurdsson for that awesome free kick of deadly accuracy.
His distribution was uncharacteristically poor today, particularly in the first half, but he made some good saves. No chance with the free kick though. There's far more problems in front of him.
The free kick probably would've still gone in but like the poster suggested, Sigurdsson was hardly going to attempt to go far post. De Gea could have been more centrally positioned for a free kick in that sort of area. I am sure he saw it early so yes it does mildly bother me that he didn't even move an inch.
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I thought he had a bit of a strange performnace today despite making two good saves. There was one point he should've came out when Tuanzebe was being put under pressure and he just stood in his goal. Its like he tuned out. Strange
He keeps doing this, despite defenders frantically waving for him to come and clear the ball. It really is his one (and possibly only) significant weakness to his game, which is odd, as he is very good with his feet. He is just very apprehensive at coming off his line to claim the ball and make clearances.
This has probably already been discussed elsewhere, but would you start De Gea or Romero against Ajax? (assuming we get through)
Very poor for their first goal. That was savable
Agreed. Blaming Herrera is just stupid.
He is pretty poor at saving penalties (25%) which is low compared to contemporaries like Neuer and Buffon. In addition he does seem to lose focus if he isn't kept busy in a match and he doesn't dominate his area.
I'm getting the impression that he has also mentally tuned out from the club. He has seemed a tad emotionally detached from events on the field. I don't think he was ever really "in love" with Man Utd per se but was more enamoured with the prospect of playing for SAF. If RM show significant interest he will be gone in the summer I think.
Has been underwhelming this season tbh. His worst season with us since his first season. Basically I think 90% of the goals we conceded this season would have easily been saved by him in the last 2 seasons form.
His head doesn't seem to be here anymore and honesty, I trust Romero more than him. I don't want to look overreacting but this isn't David the Superman GK he used to be last 2 seasons, the GK who used to save our lives in games we did nothing in it.
People can say he's not responsible for these goals but he has been saving them last 2 seasons, what the point of the club paying 200k for a GK who will produce normal performance like this ?
He's one of the players that let me down this season. I can think of about 2 or 3 games he showed his original form in it.
His head doesn't seem to be here anymore and honesty, I trust Romero more than him. I don't want to look overreacting but this isn't David the Superman GK he used to be last 2 seasons, the GK who used to save our lives in games we did nothing in it.
People can say he's not responsible for these goals but he has been saving them last 2 seasons, what the point of the club paying 200k for a GK who will produce normal performance like this ?
He's one of the players that let me down this season. I can think of about 2 or 3 games he showed his original form in it.
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No it wasnt. He was (correctly) positioned off his line. The deflection looped it over him. He couldn't get across and back to save it.
You can't blame David for the first, he was ready to dive for a shot then all of a sudden the ball was looping so now he has to start retreating
Silly to blame De Gea.... his agility is one of his strengths.....
The balls looped with a lot of pace
The balls looped with a lot of pace
I like keepers that are more willing to come out and claim balls in traffic (which does not mean being stranded in no man's land), particularly when you are facing teams that have a potent aerial threat. Its safer than relying on the CB winning the duel.
If he leaves, Donnarumma would be my preference as long term successor, and an experienced backup if Romero leaves
If he leaves, Donnarumma would be my preference as long term successor, and an experienced backup if Romero leaves
He has so much raised the bar that we're expecting him to save balls a goal keeper would never attempt to save. I saw people blaming him for the free-kick against Swansea and the goals yesterday, I don't know what he could have done for those goals apart from trying, which he did, he is fine and the problem again is that many are letting the Real Madrid links cloud their reasoning.
Yup, definitely agree.
A season to forget for him.
Wouldn't go as far as to say we don't need him next season (massive overreaction), but the standard he's set this season isn't anything special.
Can't see how anyone would blame him for the first. It was a deflected shot and the ball went in just under the bar.... not entirely sure what he's meant to do about that.
He gets blamed for every goal we concede now. Probably because he's been linked to Real and the body language experts are out in full force.
His form earlier on in the season was a little ropey but he's been excellent in his last few games. Dunno how anyone can criticise him after yesterday's game. He played very well. The save from Ramsey was top class and there was bugger all he could do about either of their goals.
Thats something I've always thought in the back of my mind, that when he's not involved for longer periods he can lose focus. Not often mind, not very often at all in fact! but it's something he could look to improve, particuarly if he goes to Madrid, in that league where you'd assume he'd be less involved typically than in the PL, game to game.
VDS was so unbelievable at that part of the game, really deserves more credit for his time here, when you think about it.
I've always thought that VDS is indeed held with huge regard and credit for his time at United. Immensely popular and respected I believe.
DDG at his best would have saved the first goal yesterday. Since the Madrid rumors started again, he has not been the same DDG we have seen in the last few years. Would be very surprised now if he is not playing for Real next year. And we have to accept it and hopefully replace him with a quality keeper like Oblak or even Donnarumma.
Regardless of slightly iffy form (which is debatable), he's one of the only United players I've got full faith in during games.
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