If you look at him closely you actually see him shouting his arse off at the defenders when they make mistakes. Captain material I say.
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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It's strange how little criticism goes Lloris' way when he has made a fair number of screw ups.
Have we offered him a 10 year contract yet? Pls pls stay with us for years to come!
Going from strength to strength,very commanding in the box today and his kicking distribution has been excellent this season,has set up a few attacks too.
Couldn't agree more. I think that support and recognition from the fans would mean so much. Above all else he deserves it more than anyone else. He's been brilliant.
Really assured performance from him today.
Like i've been saying for so long, Cech is the media's golden boy, his reputation is so great and respected that if chelsea taste any success he assumes credit inherently. Just the other day, even gary neville, in his disappointing but admittedly unabashed, and unfussed manner of choosing a team of the season goalkeeper, simply just took chelsea's defensive record, in their clean sheets and goals conceded, and said that's the reason for him to get the nod.
That's always been a DEFENCE, or even TEAM prestige, not the sole goalkeeper's. I can't understand why this myth about Clean sheets being the most important statistic for a goalkeeper still survives, and even is looked at like a reference point of comparison.
Cech has had little to do, and has been at times, REALLY uninspiring when called upon to actually do something. He's definitely not my pick for goalkeeper of the year.
For me the goalkeeper of the season is De gea, then lloris, then Marshall. Lower end goalkeepers with great reflexes always look great in a relegation level side because the volume of shots they face, and the low to high build up of their reputation only from the highlight reels and potential to surprise. Think about Al-habsi or jaaskelainen. Keepers that make stunning saves, but are flawed or weak elsewise and don't really suffer for the blunders they make in the eyes of the media. Al-Habsi was linked to Arsenal and all these clubs but in the end never left wigan and was pretty much benched by Joel eventually. The reason for that is pretty much explained for already. He's still with wigan in the championship. Marshall is quite a good goalkeeper, but stunning reflexes aside, is a bit ordinary in his command ability, his handling, and overall shotstopping skill (diving, positioning etc). Not bad like an Al-Habsi, but not great, or exceptional to the elite tier. Put De gea or any top tier goalkeeper in Marshall's shoes and they'd look as good if not better.. hell Dave would probably look like Jesus playing for Cardiff with the ridiculous saves he'd have to be pulling off right and left.
I love this man. Easily my favourite player. Hasn't dropped his standards like basically everyone else. Has improved soooo much. Stay away Barca! Sign him to a long term contract ASAP.
To be brutally honest, I don't give a toss what some pundits think about him. I know how good he is and he's still miles away from his peak. He's improving his weaker areas whilst there really aren't many keepers who can stop shots like him or have his agility. He's growing in confidence and I want him in our goal forever.
He's basically on the path to becoming Van der Saar Mark II.
He's basically on the path to becoming Van der Saar Mark II.
It's best it stays that way, really. He knows how much we love him and it's fine if the press and clueless pundits want to rate others better than him. The fact that - as somebody said above - he's nowhere near hitting his peak and he's already this good proves how phenomenal of a player he is. When [if] LvG does come in, he'll be trained to work with the ball at his feet a little more, and he'll become an even better footballer.
We've been quite blessed with a few top notch keepers over the years, haven't we?
We've been quite blessed with a few top notch keepers over the years, haven't we?
What a wonderful man. Give him a 10 year contract!
You've probably forgotten the days before VDS then? We've had two brilliant keepers in a row, but the period before that is best forgotten.
Ah, the Beautifullyred gifs are up. Finally!
Nice that while history has somewhat repeated itself with Fergie's replacement struggling (the Moyes-McGuinness parallels), it hasn't repeated itself with Van der Saar's replacement (à la Schmeichel's hapless successors) the way some feared it would, and the way certain daft journalists tried to suggest it had when de Gea was 'struggling' in that first season.
We've managed to go straight from one top keeper to another, and now that position's sorted for another ten or more years. Nothing quite like getting your hands on a superb keeper so early in his career.
We've managed to go straight from one top keeper to another, and now that position's sorted for another ten or more years. Nothing quite like getting your hands on a superb keeper so early in his career.
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Easily better and more consistent than Cech. Clean sheets aren't an accurate measure of the best keeper in the league.
Oh no, I know. When we do get good ones though, the they tend to be fecking awesome.
You know, the hilarious thing is that i've seen the liverpool fans give excuses when mignolet has made one of his dozen howlers and calamities on crosses like, "he's young, we can forgive him, he'll improve, look at how de gea was in his first season" and the same excuse was used for hart in the last year and a half "oh he's still young for a keeper though, the best is to come!".
But mignolet is 25 going on 26, and Hart is 27. De gea was 21 years old through his first season at united (only 20 when he came here!) and is now all of 23 years old, yet we never heard or saw from these same people this empathetic and nurturing understanding of the development stage of a goalkeeper before his prime. Nah, they thought it justified to rip apart a foreign goalkeeper still a teenager and disregard him as a flop. Nevermind that Mignolet is 25 and we're still waiting on something better (how sad), and that Hart is 27 and we still expect something more for some reason, 21 year old de gea is clearly a taibi. Nevermind that at 22 De Gea was named PFA keeper of the season.
That De gea is so clearly superior to those two, and 3-4 years younger then both is really enough to end the discussion imo.
And i agree, Dave's peak is still someways in the future.
Even if for some reason he never hits that projection, i'm extremely happy with the goalkeeper we ALREADY have in dave right now, which is the best goalkeeper in the league.
It's actually reached the stage where I often avoid coming into this thread (other than after a truly great game, by his standards only) simply because I don't want to be reminded of the fact that, in a couple of seasons at most, we will have a massive transfer saga on our hands. It gets me down! 
He is already the second best goalkeeper in the world right now, after Neuer. You may find that a ridiculous claim, but he has outperformed Casillas (who hasn't been great since early 2012), Buffon, Hart (easily), Cech & Diego Lopes for a while now. He's just so good, & it says something about him that we don't even miss Van der Sar, who retired while still at his very peak.
Edit: It is ridiculous to think that he's
a) Our best player
b) One of the two best keepers in the world (if you disagree, top 4 at least)
c) Touted as Casillas's heir by Casillas himself
while still at an age where most goalkeepers are sitting on the bench. He's not peaked yet and has already hit a level better than most top goalies will ever reach. He will only get better.
He is already the second best goalkeeper in the world right now, after Neuer. You may find that a ridiculous claim, but he has outperformed Casillas (who hasn't been great since early 2012), Buffon, Hart (easily), Cech & Diego Lopes for a while now. He's just so good, & it says something about him that we don't even miss Van der Sar, who retired while still at his very peak.
Edit: It is ridiculous to think that he's
a) Our best player
b) One of the two best keepers in the world (if you disagree, top 4 at least)
c) Touted as Casillas's heir by Casillas himself
while still at an age where most goalkeepers are sitting on the bench. He's not peaked yet and has already hit a level better than most top goalies will ever reach. He will only get better.
mm, i agree that he's outperformed all those other keepers, but you have to keep courtois and handanovic in the discussion for best goalkeeper. i still think handanovic is a superior goalkeeper then neuer, even if neuer is more complete and technically skilled with the ball. dave is more or less top 4 or 5 though i'd agree.
I don't think Van der sar was quite at his peak when he left though. He was godly from 2005-2009, but the years after, while still one of the best, he was already declining, and not at his peak any longer.
I don't think Van der sar was quite at his peak when he left though. He was godly from 2005-2009, but the years after, while still one of the best, he was already declining, and not at his peak any longer.
David De Gea has been absolutely sensational for us this season, only marred by the one mistake against Southampton (I may have the wrong opponent, but you know what I'm talking about) and easily our most consistent and best performer all season long.
Whether he's the second or third or fourth top keeper on the planet I can't be sure, but I am sure he's in the top five, which is more than good enough for me. And, somewhat distressingly, that's more than can be said about any other player's position on this United squad. I wouldn't put Rooney or RvP in the top five strikers on the planet, certainly none of our mids and none of our defenders. RvP's and Roo's highest highs might eek them into a top-five-on-the-planet list but they're both just too inconsistent.
If the next manager doesn't shore up this squad next season we're in danger of losing our best and most consistent player, David De Gea.
Whether he's the second or third or fourth top keeper on the planet I can't be sure, but I am sure he's in the top five, which is more than good enough for me. And, somewhat distressingly, that's more than can be said about any other player's position on this United squad. I wouldn't put Rooney or RvP in the top five strikers on the planet, certainly none of our mids and none of our defenders. RvP's and Roo's highest highs might eek them into a top-five-on-the-planet list but they're both just too inconsistent.
If the next manager doesn't shore up this squad next season we're in danger of losing our best and most consistent player, David De Gea.
The only thing that he needs to improve now is to be more active on the game (like Neuer but less retarded). I think that on other aspects he is brilliant, easily the best shot stopper in the game and his game on the air now is really good.
Definitely player of the year. Love him.
I don't even think he needs to do this, if you're talking about him sweeping. Bayern play a high line so having a keeper who's quick off his line is a big asset, the same for Lloris when Spurs were playing a high line under AVB. If the new manager is happy with a fairly deep defensive line then I don't see it being an issue whatsoever.
I agree with Revan. He has brilliant distribution though saivet so it's a waste to not have him more involved in the play. Under Van Der Sar we made the most of having a capable keeper at the back rather than hoofing it when under pressure.
Van Gaal would love De Gea.
I regret voting for Rooney and now they wont allow me to change it!
Van Gaal's system is really strange. Central defenders play deep but goalkeeper plays high on the pitch (with fullbacks being extremely advanced). However in his system the keeper is very involved on the game and starts a lot of actions so he will need to improve that part of the game (which is the reason I think Van Gaal certainly will bring his own keeper coach regardless how good Woods is at other things).
Yep. If he was shit at passing it would have been cool to stay always on the line, but he is probably after Valdez the best keeper at passing.
Add to that, if he plays higher then it makes more difficult for other teams to be in one vs one positions. Look at Bayern, it's almost impossible to send balls to striker who will be in one on one positions against Neuer. However, Neuer is shit at passing which makes what he does look less impressive than it is. Combine that with De Gea passing and you have the perfect keeper for that role (and with De Gea other attributes you have the perfect keeper at everything).
Fair enough, I'm not too familiar with van Gaal's style of play so what you're saying makes sense.
I think he's hoofed the ball more times this season but that's probably down to instructions but De Gea is brilliant on the ball and if we can use that to advantage as much as possible then it's only logical.
De Gea better win.
Last year I voted for De Gea and he didn't win. I think I will make some fake accounts and vote for him several times now. Hopefully the voting is still on.
De Gea better win.
Voted for him 5 times
Well done! Cheating is allowed in case of DDG Just saw this photo of him on Facebook. Vidic's reaction.
Rio looks bewildered.
Rio looks bewildered.
If only the the gif was a bit longer.
You could see a tribal ritual were Vidic kicks De Gea on the floor to aknowledge the save and that he is now accepted as one of them.
I felt so proud.
I think valdes is a little more mobile on the ball, or at least more comfortable with maneuvering and playing risky short passes, but in terms of long passing and distribution, I think de gea is clearly superior to valdes in terms of accuracy and precision.
Anyone a bit concerned that we haven't tied up a new contract for him yet? Come the summer he'll only have 2 years left.
He came to England to win trophies (and make shitloads of money), so it must be difficult for him now what with us sitting in 7th and his hometown former club is about to win La Liga and possibly the CL.
Thank God AM don't have the fonds to buy him back to replace Courtois.
Thank God AM don't have the fonds to buy him back to replace Courtois.
One season out of the top 4 will not turn his head for sure. He is earning shit loads. Has already win the PL with us and is absolutely adored by the fans. Now he also has his bromance with Mata to keep him here
Just a side note. Del Bosque was talking yesterday and mentioned that there are some uncapped players who might be going to the World Cup with Spain. The list included De Gea, and he didn't mention any other keepers.
The only obvious capped alternative for the Valdes replacement in the squad is Diego Lopez who played part of a friendly a few years back.
The only obvious capped alternative for the Valdes replacement in the squad is Diego Lopez who played part of a friendly a few years back.
Have we signed him up to a long term contract yet? I'm constantly paranoid that Barca would come in and take him away from us. GET ON IT ED!
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