David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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Ramshock said:
Charleysurf having a melt down. Wise the feck up..he made a mistake it happens the lad is going to be the best keeper in the world in a few years
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This!

He cocked it up and it was shocking but he's saved us many a time over the last two years...Ironically, remember the saves at Sunderland this year?...He's a good keeper, good footballer and a good kid. No point in banging on about this when the shit in front of him should have done more in over TWO HOURS of football at home
 
Majorly disappointed for him but it was a matter a time before the bad fortune hit him.

It's hit everyone bar Januzaj so far this season so it was almost a matter of time.

Given it was the league cup I think he might just escape a slaughtering. Missing four penalties also helps him somewhat.

Sure his error probably was arguably the direct cause of us not going through BUT was he fully responsible in the mind of a sane person? Doubt it.

He's class. He knows it. We know it. He'll pick it back up soon, I'm sure of that.
 
Bad error that ultimately cost us the tie, but he will put it behind him and be back to his best in the next game.
 
Kid Cunto said:
Speaks volumes about how far he's come that not one of us is concerned.
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Remember when he used to get crucified just for looking nervous? He has come a very very long way. Well done to him!


Im sure he will let this error go, just like the ball.

sorry
 
a very bad moment and a very bad mistake for de gea but the team were very poor indeed, especially in the second half. the last quarter of the game we were defending for our lives, against sunderland at old trafford ffs!

he did saved 2 penalties but in the end it wasn't enough because our penalty takers were just shit. when you converted just 1 out 5 penalties then you are going to lose ultimately.

i've got no problems with de gea. it was the outfield players that let the team down today.
 
I think its just a symptom of our team and our season, that someone who has shown great mental strength to come through a tough start and be a very good goalkeeper for us is now allowing such a terrible mistake to creep back into his game. The mental strength will see him bounce back, but that was a sore one. When you play poorly enough to put yourself in that situation over 2 legs, just about going through with the minimal conviction possible, these things are bound to happen sometimes. Same as losing a penalty shoot out. We were testing our luck
 
Reminded me of Hodgson's first game in charge of Liverpool. They were winning and Reina did the exact same thing at the last moment. Regardless of how Moyes tactics, the luck we have had under him is nothing like I have ever seen.
 
You make your own luck. Especially when you lose a first leg and cant motivate your team to win the tie in normal time. Moyes got what he deserved
 
Ekeke said:
You make your own luck. Especially when you lose a first leg and cant motivate your team to win the tie in normal time. Moyes got what he deserved
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Sorry, that's retarded. It's called luck because you don't make it.
 
Ekeke said:
You put yourself in a bad situation and when it goes wrong you call it luck
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No, that's called putting yourself in a bad situation. Bad luck is different. Again, that's why it's called "luck." Welbeck getting kicked against Chelsea and not getting a call is bad luck. Vidic getting a red for the same tackle Borini made today in the first five minutes and not getting a yellow is bad luck. On and on, this season is filled with it.
 
AlwaysRedwood said:
Sorry, that's retarded. It's called luck because you don't make it.
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No it makes sense. Was it lucky that we scored so many late goals in the past? No, its because we pushed, and pushed for winning goals all game and the opposition would get tired, think they made it and then we'd pop up with the goal. We'd always be camped out around the oppositions box and something was bound to happen. Same thing happened today, but for them. They had us camped inside our own box and something was bound to happen in their favor, considering we couldn't string 3 passes together to go forward. We deserved what we got, and you can't blame De Gea too much when he was put under pressure for about 70 minutes in a semi final at Old Trafford, to the last placed team in the league. Embarrassing really.
 
AlwaysRedwood said:
No, that's called putting yourself in a bad situation. Bad luck is different. Again, that's why it's called "luck." Welbeck getting kicked against Chelsea and not getting a call is bad luck. Vidic getting a red for the same tackle Borini made today in the first five minutes and not getting a yellow is bad luck. On and on, this season is filled with it.
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I've heard the same things from Arsenal and Liverpool fans over the years.
 
bosnian_red said:
No it makes sense. Was it lucky that we scored so many late goals in the past? No, its because we pushed, and pushed for winning goals all game and the opposition would get tired, think they made it and then we'd pop up with the goal. We'd always be camped out around the oppositions box and something was bound to happen. Same thing happened today, but for them. They had us camped inside our own box and something was bound to happen in their favor, considering we couldn't string 3 passes together to go forward. We deserved what we got, and you can't blame De Gea too much when he was put under pressure for about 70 minutes in a semi final at Old Trafford, to the last placed team in the league. Embarrassing really.
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It's not like I'm talking about that one play. It's been a constant all season. We've had three or four non existent fouls called against us that led to goals. We had Welbeck wiped out at midfield in a game, no call, then the other team storms down the field and scores. It's been like that all season. It is indeed bad luck. It's also poor play and bad tactics. But the bad luck is there and it's obvious.
 
Ekeke said:
I've heard the same things from Arsenal and Liverpool fans over the years.
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At least go with a decent WUM. The entire Caf is RAWK with the screaming about Moyes and "we won a championship" last year with the same blinders on Scousers had when Hodgson was managing a woeful squad.
 
AlwaysRedwood said:
At least go with a decent WUM. The entire Caf is RAWK with the screaming about Moyes and "we won a championship" last year with the same blinders on Scousers had when Hodgson was managing a woeful squad.
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Its true. While other teams fans have been complaining about luck for years, we've been winning, not always pretty, a lot of the time making it hard for ourselves first, but coming out with the result at the end because we refused to accept any less. Thats the difference. Because we had a team of winners. The players who looked like winners last season dont look like winners anymore under Moyes. And thats "luck"
 
To those that say de gea cost us by not keeping the ball out, didn't our attacking players cost us in a sense by not finishing their chances? If you're going to talk about de Gea, then you have to look at all things equally imo. We had chances to score more than final scoreline and didn't take them, de Gea should have made a save but didnt. It sucks but that's how it goes sometimes. You can point the finger at de Gea but you can equally say if other players stepped up and finished (i.e fletcher hitting the post, hernandez not squandering a chance to score, etc), we wouldnt have been in this position either. To solely blame de Gea for that yet fail to account for the other possibilities in this context is I think a bit harsh.

Just to make it clear, here's what I'm saying "well if de gea hadn fecked up, we wouldn't be have lost!!" "well if hernandez hadn't missed that chance, we wouldn't have lost!!"

Which one do you go with? Would we be talking about this to such a degree if we had went through on PK's?

At the end of the day, we didn't score those chances and de Gea cocked up an easy save. Tough luck eh
 
That old classic comes to mind - we all make mistakes, its how we respond to that. Im pleased that we are all putting the error into perspectiven and not slaughtering the player, lets move on.
 
Absolutely shocking mistake, but did well to regain his head and save two penalties, sadly he was let down by our takers. Amazing really, literally the only foot he's put wrong all season and it costs us a game.
 
Red-Man-Walking said:
Absolutely shocking mistake, but did well to regain his head and save two penalties, sadly he was let down by our takers. Amazing really, literally the only foot he's put wrong all season and it costs us a game.
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That's part of being a goalkeeper. Nevertheless, I am sure he will bounce back and he's not at fault why we're so shit this season. One of the few players who kept his playing standard
 
These things happen to keepers. You do that on the rest of the pitch and you simply give possession away. You do it as a keeper and there's a good chance it'll cost you a goal. The rest of the team should've made sure it didn't matter.
 
kouroux said:
It's gonna take a few more miistakes for me to even consider criticizing him, he's been so good for a while that he is easily forgiven.
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hmm, not sure about that. i think the mess thats been going on in front of him, has taken spotlight off him.

we were talking about him during the game last night (long before his error) and it is very clear that he has a huge flaw in his game at the moment - quickness of feet to get off his line. he is rooted to the spot and this is a huge concern. how often do you see him coming out to dive at a players foot or clearing a ball with his feet from 12+ yards out? he also rarely claims balls outside the 6 yard box. he is a really talented keeper and can play ball, so he has the ability to sweep up behind the center halves for any lose balls where necessary like several other keepers do.

of course it could mean we dont play as high a line as other clubs do, but then again we see the same thing for crosses. he could perhaps for example have cut out the Real Madrid winner last year had he been better placed.

he could and should have done better for a few goals recently, not least Cardiff away, Spurs at home, Chelsea away X 2 and of course last night....balls seem to be going straight through him a bit more this year than was happening last 18 months. of course, if you have a dodgy and unsettled team, its going to effect keeper also, i will give him that.

still though, absolutely love the guy and think he is world class material, just needs to up his game in terms of speed of his feet off the line.
 
ISSYNAZAR said:
Majorly disappointed for him but it was a matter a time before the bad fortune hit him.

It's hit everyone bar Januzaj so far this season so it was almost a matter of time.

Given it was the league cup I think he might just escape a slaughtering. Missing four penalties also helps him somewhat.

Sure his error probably was arguably the direct cause of us not going through BUT was he fully responsible in the mind of a sane person? Doubt it.

He's class. He knows it. We know it. He'll pick it back up soon, I'm sure of that.
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Bar Janujaz?
I saw the good, the bad & the ugly of Janujaz last night. Some of his decision making in the final third were atrocious.

He wasted a lot of good moves last night - especially when United broke, Jones made a run expecting a pass & Janujaz just passed the ball to Mannone.

His penalty kick was a let down too. I expected better from him. Cristiano at 18 would tuck that in. The fault ultimately lies with Moyes though, Janujaz shouldn't be lining up to take a penalty!
 
Sixpence said:
I'm not joking when I say he should have been one of our pen takers. You should base your pen takers on pure technique, and he's one of the best technically in the squad.
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Knowing what we had on the pitch, I was half expecting him to take one.
 
I really believe, due to the constant absence of Vidic, that he is our best player. I honestly believe that. Every single moment of his journey from the summer of 2011 to his Johnson penalty save last night is testament to how he embodies everything about the club. Mercurial in his talent, possibly soon to be world's number one, he is superstar material yet with an almost unbreakable self belief from his remarkable work ethic. Humble and cocky at the same time, with an us against the world mentality. Very 'Man United'. The guy is literally made of balls, & is the only one bar Januzaj and maybe Rooney to have done his job as well as he could have this season.
 
When he fecked up, my initial reaction wasn't to labast De Gea or even criticise him... it was to turn to the bloke behind me and say "Well that's been coming... we've been shite since normal half time"
 
Poor lapse in concentration, but who can blame him? Cowardly tactics allowing Sunderland to attack us at Old Trafford. Moyes held out for an away goals victory against Sunderland. This is just unacceptable. When Ferguson opted for bizarre lineups and cowardly tactics in his latter years, at least it was against opposition such as Real Madrid or Manchester City. Moyes was scared of Sunderland.

Sunderland believed they could score, and they were right. We are always likely to concede under Moyes, through individual errors or collectively atrocious defensive organisation. It's just not good enough. With Ferguson, even when we were poor defensively, we always had the quality and belief to score more than the opposition. Not anymore.

Phenomenal keeper coaxed into the error by Moyes' negative approach against Sunderland.
 
Sunny Jim said:
no biggie. Hernandez jailed him out.
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He didn't really though. We still ended up going out because of that blunder. Yes, the players should've done better on the penalties, but it would never have gotten there if it wasn't for De Gea's mistake.
Also :lol: at the people trying to blame it on Moyes negative tactics. Jesus fecking Christ.

It was a poor mistake. That's it. It happens occasionally for all keepers and De Gea hadn't made one for a very long time. No worries, he'll get over it and back to being great.
 
smallred said:
hmm, not sure about that. i think the mess thats been going on in front of him, has taken spotlight off him.

we were talking about him during the game last night (long before his error) and it is very clear that he has a huge flaw in his game at the moment - quickness of feet to get off his line. he is rooted to the spot and this is a huge concern. how often do you see him coming out to dive at a players foot or clearing a ball with his feet from 12+ yards out? he also rarely claims balls outside the 6 yard box. he is a really talented keeper and can play ball, so he has the ability to sweep up behind the center halves for any lose balls where necessary like several other keepers do.

of course it could mean we dont play as high a line as other clubs do, but then again we see the same thing for crosses. he could perhaps for example have cut out the Real Madrid winner last year had he been better placed.

he could and should have done better for a few goals recently, not least Cardiff away, Spurs at home, Chelsea away X 2 and of course last night....balls seem to be going straight through him a bit more this year than was happening last 18 months. of course, if you have a dodgy and unsettled team, its going to effect keeper also, i will give him that.

still though, absolutely love the guy and think he is world class material, just needs to up his game in terms of speed of his feet off the line.
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You're right and I didn't mean to say he was flawless but I suppose I have on memory more all the saves he's had to make in the last few months to save us points (last season included too). There is obviously some areas to improve in his game but we're talking about the most consistent player at the club for a while now.
 
Schmeichel and van der Sar have made bigger mistakes. It won't affect him - he, along with Januzaj are the only real positives of this massive shit sandwich Moyes has been feeding us this season
 
Schmikes used to make clangers every now and then. This wont phase big Dave at all. He has been totally solid all season, all of last year actually. I really doubt he will let it get to him and make a series of errors, he is strong mentally and overcame the media shit storm before.
 
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