Hernandez had a tricky shot and a good header. RVP missed a great chance. What bothered me most is sloppy passing and indecisiveness. Cleverley needs to take more assertive active and not be so timid. I get the impression he steps back so as not to step on team mates toes. F that. Just go out there and be yourself. If you shine and the others don't, so be it. I just get the impression his sharpness and confidence are not what it was earlier in the year.
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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Vidic must fancy him now lolz.
I have a feeling Vidic doesn't trust any keeper because even with Foster and VDS in his pomp he'd always attack everything. I honestly think it is just his style of play. He attacks and looks to be sure more often than not.
What I have noticed is this season DdG has been camped dangerously in his 6 yard box when he could probably be more pro-active but a title winners medal will put a boost in his boots next season I think.
Good game from DDG today i thought. Nothing he could do with that goal. Made a few nice saves, but was fairly quite game for him overall. Did show good hands to come out and claim a fair few crosses/corners comfortably. His weaknesses are no long massive and it is clear that he has been working on it and is feeling comfortably to come and claim/punch high balls. It is very telling that even the commentators are starting to realise that he is a very good player and stopped (for now) with the easy throw away negative comments for no reason.
De Gea really comes around nicely now! He has bulked up, he has worked on crosses, still has incredible quick reflexes! His attitude is magnificent and he has a very strong mentallity! Imagine what he will be like in 3-5 years!
I think we have a winner on our hands!
I think we have a winner on our hands!
Perhaps, but Tyler is the elder statesman of football broadcasting - i.e. authoritative enough to say what he sees, irrespective of if it's incongruent with what the TV producer wants to hear. That Tyler decided to repeatedly criticise suggests to me that he's got an axe to grind. Shame, as it's misguided, and he's usually a top commentator.
I thought that save from Mata at the near post was absolutely sensational. Not as eye-catching as the free-kick or toe-poke save but ridiculous in its own way. And he's already cleaning up everything in the air. I really do think he's the best keeper in the league now.
Definitely the best keeper in the league for me, and is already one of the best in the World on current form.
Keep it going Dave!
Keep it going Dave!
It was a very very good save, I noticed ITV didn't really mention too much about it either.
His improvement on crosses/command of his box is apparent, his reflexes are outstanding and his distribution is world class. Note how the media are now linking Lindegaard with a move rather than de Gea.
Best in the league? Perhaps not quite yet. Certainly wouldn't swap him for anyone else.
I think the way he looked really comfortable coming out and collecting those corners in the first half was telling. They kept trying to swing them into the 6 yard box and he gobbled them up no issues. Loved how the utd fans were cheering at every catch.
The save of Mata at the near post was excellent, his reactions are so quick even on the slow mo replay the save was hard to make out!. His save from Ba at the post with his leg was also fairly difficult, but because his leg work is so good he makes it look easy.
For his age IMO there really isn't any other keeper i would rather have, i hope he respects the faith SAF and the other staff have had in him through his struggles, and he repays us with many years of service. Top keeper.
The save of Mata at the near post was excellent, his reactions are so quick even on the slow mo replay the save was hard to make out!. His save from Ba at the post with his leg was also fairly difficult, but because his leg work is so good he makes it look easy.
For his age IMO there really isn't any other keeper i would rather have, i hope he respects the faith SAF and the other staff have had in him through his struggles, and he repays us with many years of service. Top keeper.
Best in the league. I hope he stays here forever.
Yeah but he's still a bit suspect in the air
I agree with your praise but take issue with your suggestion that it will take 3-5 years to see him reach his potential.
There's not much in his game that needs any improvement. He's easily the best keeper in the league, going off of 12/13 alone, and easily one of the top keepers on the planet now. We know about his shot stopping, and it's hard to see how that could possibly improve. We know about his distribution, which again, is as near perfect as it can be. What's left is muscling his way through the thicket of crosses but even that part of his game has improved so much you have to wonder how much left there is to improve. You don't want your keeper coming out to the pk spot to snuff out crosses -- De Gea's decision-making on when to come out and when to stay planted is now near perfect. The only area where I see him able to gain some ground is the distance he gets on punches and even then we're talking only about a couple of meters.
We need not wait 3-5 years to see him reach his full potential. Boys and girls, we're watching the early days of a keeper who will one day go down as one of the greatest keepers the game has ever seen. Laugh if you must, but mark my words and let's come back to this thread in 15 years and see who laughs last.
If we were to be overly harsh (and let's face it, Dave's form the past couple of months have set very high standards for himself), I think he may have done better with Ramires' goal in the drawn FA Cup game against Chelsea at Old Trafford. He got down well and got a finger to it, but not quite enough to push it around the post. Again, that's nit-picking, but such is his form recently we are expecting him to stop those now.
Some of this stuff is over the top. He's a very good keeper and he has massive potential but there are going to be much worse days than yesterday, particularly aerially. You don't just solve something like that in a few months. But he's making good improvements pretty quickly.
Getting a League winner's medal will do him the world of good. He'll have the taste for more.
He's fantastic. His flaws are over stated. And how many amazing saves has he had this season? Kept us alive numerous times.
Agreed. He has improved, but how much we can't exactly say until we come up against a team that just bomb crosses into the box constantly for the whole match. A few matches like that will tell us exactly where he stands. At this point we should just be happy he is showing improvements and is already a very good keeper.
Oh God
de Gea just need to build this 'calm aura' VdS had when in goal. You know.., that feeling of security when you see VdS there. Even though VdS doesn't necessarily the much better keeper between the two.
He's got about 15 years to get there.
I sort of do already feel that way though, when a player is shooting around the box i never feel threatened, i expect him to save almost everything, which is a strange feeling for a goalkeeper.
Obviously its impossible to stop everything, but i feel almost suprised when a goal does go in, he is that good IMO
Feck. I might be die by then
I sort of do already feel that way though, when a player is shooting around the box i never feel threatened, i expect him to save almost everything, which is a strange feeling for a goalkeeper.
Obviously its impossible to stop everything, but i feel almost suprised when a goal does go in, he is that good IMO
Ah.. Now watching goals in other matches than ours, I couldn't help but think,"meh, de Gea would've saved that!". Somehow, he reminds me of Gianluca Pagliuca. They have similar build and incredible reflex and agility.
Although I've never seen a goalkeeper as comfortable as de Gea using his foot to block a shot. It's very unusual.
Feck. I might be die by then
Ah.. Now watching goals in other matches than ours, I couldn't help but think,"meh, de Gea would've saved that!". Somehow, he reminds me of Gianluca Pagliuca. They have similar build and incredible reflex and agility.
Although I've never seen a goalkeeper as comfortable as de Gea using his foot to block a shot. It's very unorthodox.
Yep, like PSG's second goal last night, there is no way he would have let that in like Valdes did. He would of gone down with his legs wider and managed to re adjust much quicker. The way Valdes dived with his legs together leaves u completely immobile.
I'm just waiting for De Gea to let in a 'saveable' goal that he attempted to stop with his feet/legs, could be this season or in a few years time. We'll get "another glaring error from De Gea and that stems from that very unusual style of his! He's always looked shaky saving with his feet and this confirms it!"
Was looking for the Cafs opinion on Pagliuca, and stumbled on this post by Chiraq (16th June 2011 on the summer we unofficially signed de Gea):
Pretty strong statement. This guy really knew his onion. How come I've never seen this Chiraq guy posting anyway?
https://www.redcafe.net/f9/david-de-gea-signs-confirmed-330640/index17.html#post9945981
Pretty strong statement. This guy really knew his onion. How come I've never seen this Chiraq guy posting anyway?He used to post fairly regularly but over the past year and a half he hasn't really posted that much. He hasn't posted since September and hasn't been on since January.
Of course he's going to have worse games now and then, but as you say he keeps improving every week. Some of the crosses he caught against Chelsea were the kind of crosses he would've punched (at best) just a few months ago. Last season there were a lot of questions raised by some (mainly idiots, of course) whether he'd ever improve on crosses and already you can see a massive difference from then.
From RAWK, on de Gea:
Dave's distribution has always been top notch, even from watching him at Atletico two years ago. Have these cnuts even been watching Reina with the past two/three years? Laughable.
Dave's distribution has always been top notch, even from watching him at Atletico two years ago. Have these cnuts even been watching Reina with the past two/three years? Laughable.
The punch at Sunderland was the watershed moment for me.
Rewind to last season and he would of either tried to catch it and dropped it, or tried to punch it and miss, or hit it weakly.
He completely hammered the ball away and took a wack for it in the process.
That showed me he is ready.
From RAWK, on de Gea:
Dave's distribution has always been top notch, even from watching him at Atletico two years ago. Have these cnuts even been watching Reina with the past two/three years? Laughable.
When I first read your quote from RAWK, I thought they were slagging off De Gea's kicking, as Reina seems to be quite poor in his distribution these days. I thought it was a comparison to that, which would be even more bonkers.
I'm surprised even the most ardent Liverpool fan believes Reina is still good passer of the ball. It's something which has really declined in his game alot, as he used to be very good.
Look at Lenin's other posts in that thread. He hates de Gea. Some examples:
21st January 2013:
Lenin said:He's made loads of mistakes. Reminds me of Craig Gordon. Cost twice as much though.
Lets face it if his name was Dave O'Hara he would be getting rightly slagged by everyone.
Lenin said:
Lenin said:
Lenin said:
What a whole lotta shite.
Someone actually said in that rawk thread that we should have bought, then loaned him to a la liga club like celta
The thing is that his opinions were generally shared by the majority of rival fans for the initial months of De Gea's Manchester United career. I still piss myself laughing at Redknapp's "tactics" when Spurs came to Old Trafford back in August 2011; there must have been 7 or 8 examples of 25+ yard punts from his midfielders and attackers, way more than the expected average for a Premier League football match. All this based on the presumption in the media that Dave was weak from long-range shots.
Laughable.
Boy, that Lenin chap must be a blast to have around...
"Here mate, have a beer."
"Why? So I can suffer a painful kidney failure?"
"Here mate, have a beer."
"Why? So I can suffer a painful kidney failure?"
He's looking more beefy everyday
The thing is that his opinions were generally shared by the majority of rival fans for the initial months of De Gea's Manchester United career. I still piss myself laughing at Redknapp's "tactics" when Spurs came to Old Trafford back in August 2011; there must have been 7 or 8 examples of 25+ yard punts from his midfielders and attackers, way more than the expected average for a Premier League football match. All this based on the presumption in the media that Dave was weak from long-range shots.
Laughable.
Van Der Vaart was just pinging them from stupid distances and angles. It was a right laugh. Wasn't it all based on some stat that De Gea had conceded more goals outside of the box than any other goalkeeper in La Liga in the season before he joined us? I don't even know if that stat is true.
Damn. Your post is like those Siri's answers on my iPhone
j/k Damien. Thanks for the reply. Seems like Chiraq is a scout or something, judging by his posts.
EDIT: sounds like he's a journalist or something.
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