Were you on a gap year with Bartez and Taibi?
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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Were you on a gap year with Bartez and Taibi?
Forkin' knew I'd forget one or two!
you had quite a comprehensive list to be fair!! Better than sunday supplement who reckoned we were on our 4th GK since VDS.
I'm surprised I missed Barthez though. I just don't get all the fuss over De Gea. If we let him go we'll regret it for years to come.
That's exactly what has happened to me. The point is, either way, it is not right to pin it entirely on him. Like someone else said, it's nitpicking at best. Zabaleta should have done better.
Yeah I agree Cat I think he is going to be pure quality.
I would go a couple past that but not much and when you factor De Gea's age in it is just silly he gets so much stick. Couple years from now De Gea will most likely be the best in the world with Neuer. In any event here is a stab at a list slightly more that 2-3 names.
Iker
Buffon
Neuer
For sure...
Hart and Cech
most likely...
Regardless how you want to place the big names De Gea is worthy of being on this list.
all really maddening tbh.
Yeah they were much darker days with this lot in net. Carroll was such a weird keeper for us from memory. I remember him in that period when we were rotating him and Howard throughout the season (04/05 I think) - he'd have about 5 or so games where he played like some sort of supercharged Brad Friedel against a top 4 team, only to then follow it up with some of the most continuously retarded and error prone keeping to be seen in others. Then he'd be dropped for Howard - who would then be dropped in turn shortly after - and go through the same process again.
Sigh. That 'goal' against Spurs. THAT goal he let in against Lyon. An awful goal he let in against Charlton, that goal against Milan... and then, that FA cup semi final performance and especially incredible double save.
no mention in the media about Cech saving and deflecting the ball straight into the path of a newcastle player... the commentators didn't even blame cech
I'll give you Cech but not Hart. Hart is good, maybe even great, but based on what I've seen from both from them over the last 12 months De Gea has already surpassed Hart.
No I don't agree Hart has had a drop in standards and is way below what the press rate him at. But DDG still has a lot to do to get to Harts level IMO. But he is getting there and will surpass him IMHO.
Fair enough. I don't agree, but that's cool. We live to debate the issues of the day and it would be no fun if everyone agreed on all issues.
Still, I haven't seen anything at all in Hart's game over the last 12 months that makes me wish we had him and not De Gea.
What has Hart done this season, that DDG has failed to do? last season Hart was a top keeper and a match winner for City on many occasions. However, this season I think that De Gea has performed better.
Tim Howard was fantastic for us in his first season though. I always kind of felt we should have given him a bit more love, he got dropped pretty easily as soon as he made a mistake. Maybe my memory is hazy though.
Truer words have never been written. I'm not even sure Hart would be one of the top three keepers THIS SEASON and I know for a fact that Hart himself, to his credit, has acknowledged his substandard play this season, at least so far.
But if we're to allow the British media to have it's say, De Gea has had a mare of a season, isn't good enough for the English prem, and has plagued his club with "genuine mistakes". I'll go with the word of Hart himself and that of Fergie over the of the British media, who've had the long knives out for de Gea since his very first game.
I don't know. Our defence went to pieces after Rio's suspension, there was that bad and costly error against Porto and then he conceded four against City. I think Fergie just took him there out of the firing line, but he never regained his 'mojo' for the rest of his time with us.
Schmikes had some crazy moments early on...no reason DDG should not make a mistake now and then . He shows all the qualities of a top keeper. He will be our keeper for a long time. All I can say is when he comes out for the ball I don't have a feeling we will make an error.
...I don't listen to the ABU media anyways.
...I don't listen to the ABU media anyways.
That's the thing for me, even though he's made mistakes and at times looked uncomfortable, I can't remember feeling worried about him. Maybe that weird game at Liverpool in the cup when he just looked a bit mental last year. Stark contrast to Barthez who I would always shit bricks with whenever the ball was near him.
Really great save that. Watching live I thought we got lucky with the strike beating him and hitting the post. It was only after watching the replay a couple of times that I picked up he got a hand to it and pushed it onto the post.
Top save indeed, no doubt about it. Even after you could easily on replay see the touch on the ball, the British announcers refused to acknowledge it during the broadcast. Slime.
This keeper is a revelation. But I'm sure the next time De Gea makes an actual mistake we'll be treated once again to back page reports of Fergie shipping him out for Valdes.
It's only statistics but he's top in the Prem's EA Sports goalkeeper ranking (look at the average per game) and second in the whoscored.com ranking (behind Julio Cesar). He's had the best save ratio in the Prem for the last two seasons (currently 4th in Europe). Hart is 3rd in the EA ranking (behind Cech) and way down in the whoscored.com ranking. I wouldn't swap De Gea for any goalkeeper in the world. He's already great and has tremendous potential for improvement.
Unbelievable...there's a new round of speculation (out there for 24 hours, but I'm just catching up to it now) in the British media that Fergie will bring in Begovic due to De Gea's "erratic form".
Can't blame the press for that one. Begovic has been linked with us throughout the season and Stoke signing Butland gives them a ready made story.
This. They have put 2 and 2 together and got pi to 15 decimal places.
If we get Begovic he will be number 2 to De Gea. Lindegaard just isn't up to it.
That Begovic "story" is by Steve Bates. I wouldn't pay much attention to him, he's been on MUTV many times and knows feck all about football.
His knowledge of European players is embarrassing.
His knowledge of European players is embarrassing.
We don't need Begovic. He is really good but it places unnecessary pressure on De Gea and the club itself because they will have to spend almost £10m to get him and he won't be happy sitting on the bench because he could start at a lot of clubs in the premier league. De Gea is the future and I am happy with Lindegaard being his backup.
I've said it before every commentator i have heard, has a thing against De Gea, when you watch him, he is fully focussed and is trying his best. He has fantastic reflexes and just needs time to settle and perhaps that is what everyone is so up in arms about, he doesnt have time to settle.
He is being given a good run of games which no doubt helps with his confidence and his team mates have come out and supported him which i think is equally important.
So my view is that De Gea is the long term solution for Manchester United.
He is being given a good run of games which no doubt helps with his confidence and his team mates have come out and supported him which i think is equally important.
So my view is that De Gea is the long term solution for Manchester United.
On MOTD when he saved that shot where the rebound fell to Ruiz, the commentator said: "Uuuuu, he should have steared that the other way." If he had done that it would have been a tap in for Rodallega. Seriously, they're just criticizing him even when there's nothing to criticize.
I wonder what reception he'll get next season, if we win the league? something tells me that all of this rubbish will tone down a bit if we do so. If DDG was as bad as the media say he is, we'd be sitting below the scousers on the table.
Thats how they roll though, they dont wanna see him succeed. Hes top drawer for a young lad, its only his 2nd season aswel.
I would be disgusted if he leaves.
I would be disgusted if he leaves.
Does anybody really believe that fergie thinks DDG is rubbish?
I mean he and Steele knew what they were getting into when signing him, he said at the beginning when we signed him he was for the future and mistakes will be made.
He has always come out and supported him, and i think its important his team mates have done recently too.
I would really like it is fergie came out publically how well he is doing, and that he is our number 1.
I mean he and Steele knew what they were getting into when signing him, he said at the beginning when we signed him he was for the future and mistakes will be made.
He has always come out and supported him, and i think its important his team mates have done recently too.
I would really like it is fergie came out publically how well he is doing, and that he is our number 1.
I still think it will be mixed, it might die down but as soon as a small mistake happens it will be the usual bollocks again. Already people talk about him and say stuff like "If United win the league it will not be because of him...it will be in spite of him" etc. It gets tiresome but I reckon it's got to that point now where no one at United even pays attention to it.
I know, it fecking pisses me off that. Plus the great save from the Ruiz shot got a 'De Gea was well beaten there', when in actual fact it was a top drawer save.
They never seem to dwell on Hart or Cech ever parrying it onto oncoming strikers.
Wouldn't surprise me if Begovic happened. De Gea is clearly a top class keeper but the press won't get off his back. If he's spoken privately to Fergie about feeling home sick and feeling his game doesn't suit England, and Barcelona have expressed an interest in taking him then it may be best for all parties.
I'd be delighted to see him stay but I can't help but think he'll be tempted back to spain. Then each year we'll have to hear about how we should regret letting him go, just like we do every time we see Pique play.
I'd be delighted to see him stay but I can't help but think he'll be tempted back to spain. Then each year we'll have to hear about how we should regret letting him go, just like we do every time we see Pique play.
De Gea is amazing, it's as simple as that. Being at United comes with extra scrutiny, especially if you're young and expensive. Literally every stat indicate that De Gea is the best keeper in the league, despite the fact that other keepers possess vast experience in comparison. His ability to pull off amazing saves more than compensates for his aerial indecisiveness.
IN DAVID WE TRUST.
IN DAVID WE TRUST.
Fergie will have De Gea living in a bubble immune to the press and what they say. If you analyse his performance this season and compare how many points he has cost to how many he has saved and did the same for all the other keepers in the league, I am willing to bet he'd come out on top and in simple terms that is exactly what a goalkeepers job is.
It's sad but if he was English, he'd be getting very different treatment and be talked of as the next Banks.
It's sad but if he was English, he'd be getting very different treatment and be talked of as the next Banks.
The lad has been really good the last match... he deserves my credit. Hope stays like that.
Sure he can't speak English so he has no idea they're criticizing him anyway!
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