It must be annoying for him that we can't keep a clean sheet. Even with shit opponents as Fulham.
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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"De Gea incurs the wrath of Fergie as yet another clean sheet is thrown away"
Isn't he supposed to put players on his posts ? If it's not him, who usually does that ? It has always seemed such a trivial and easy thing to do
Valencia was on that post when they were taking corner, but from some reason left that spot and came to head the ball away and was nowhere near it, while Rooney left Hughes unmarked.
I didn't see the game lads. Just to confirm, it was all his fault again, yes?
Strange play by Valencia, technically not even on the post and just decided to go walkabout.
De Gea should have made him stay on the post.
Can the super hilarious sarcastic blaming him for things come to an end please?
The body language of the stewards was pretty telling.
et tu, brofs?
Who was on the near post?
No, they actually did fancy him.
Surprised the media haven't blamed him for all five goals yesterday.
What was valencia doing for Fulham's goal? On the corner, he's not on the near post but he's not marking anyone either. Then a split second before Karagounis plays the ball in, he starts running towards where he think the ball will be played leaving the near post even more exposed. Our organization sometimes bemuses me.
I wouldn't make too much of the goal, amigos. It was late in the game and we were up 4-0. Rooney switched off for a split second and the Fulham man (Hughes) slipped free and nailed a perfect bullet header which De Gea actually almost saved despite everything occurred. Small potatoes.
seems to be a tactic we employ, we've had a few players on the near post that leave and end up not getting anywhere near the ball. Disappointing he didnt get the clean sheet but it was a good header and sometimes you just have to credit the goalscorer.
This is a good reminder -- to me at least -- that we really should have a man on the short post for corners every single time. I'm seeing less of that these days and I have no idea why. Seems to me it should be no less than a Law of Nature that you'd have a man on the short post.
"Short post"?
Surely you mean "near post" or "front post", unless that post is actually shorter than the other?
Surely you mean "near post" or "front post", unless that post is actually shorter than the other?
The goal meant nothing when it came to the final results but I'm sure a pro keeper like DDG must still have felt a tiny bit frustrated he couldn't keep the clean sheet.
It was obviously De Gea's fault that Rooney lost Hughes for the goal also.
Poor defending from Rooney, really go to show just how good RVP is in those situations, his defending has been the biggest surprise for me, amazing.
If Nani takes every corner that goes against us, van Persie would be best defender in the league statisticly.
No. Who was on the far post.
Watt was the name of the player on the near post.
That takes me back - to before I was born.
Absolutely. To play at this level you surely have to be a perfectionist in terms of your own performances, you have to push yourself. I'm sure the goal will have taken the gloss off for him.
Not that I blame him for it, particularly.
"Short post"?
Surely you mean "near post" or "front post", unless that post is actually shorter than the other?
We use the term interchangeably with near post (never front post, which I've never even heard of before) here in the US. We usually refer to soccer (a word coined in England, by the way), not football. Goalkeeper's box, not six yard box. Sideline, not touch line. Zero, not nil. And so on. But yes, "near post" would eliminate any potential confusion and is preferred. I'll be sure to refer to the near post in the future.
In any event, I just can't get my head around the concept of leaving the near post unattended on a corner kick. I don't care if we're up 4-0 or 14-0, you gotta have a man on the near post (both posts, actually) on a corner kick.
But we put man there regulary if I am not wrong, and yesterday Valencia was there, but he left it from some reason.
We usually do, but for some reason the man on the post has wandered off quite often, leading to some silly goals off corners over the last few seasons. I don't recall seeing Valencia on the NEAR post then off it, but I'll take your word for it. When I last saw the replay I focused mostly on Rooney and then De Gea. Rooney just got caught flat footed, De Gea actually almost made the save. Had he done so, it would have been from the top shelf. His reaction was absolutely incredible.
I'm sorry Cider, how does that work exactly? So as the ball is flying over he is supposed to simultaneously watch it, prepare himself for it and also ask Valencia if he wouldn't mind terribly staying on the post, There's a good chap...
He was definetely there couple of seconds before they took the corner, but he left it immediately after they took it.
I agree with your main point, even during VDS's time with us, I think Evra(he was our man who was staying by post during that time) was for blame for most of the goals we conceeded after corners, he just couldn't stay on near post even if his life was depending on that, it was ridiculous.
Why don't we get Schmeichel in to help De Gea out?!
Replacing De Gea, by the way, would be a complete dick move. When he reaches his peak he will be one of the best in the World here or not.
Replacing De Gea, by the way, would be a complete dick move. When he reaches his peak he will be one of the best in the World here or not.
The people here who are claiming he deserves an infinite amount of patience are just as bad as the people who are claiming he isn't good enough.
He's done well. He needs to be more commanding under crosses/high balls. Sin é.
He's done well. He needs to be more commanding under crosses/high balls. Sin é.
These are things decided before the match. Usually it's fairly routine and you've got Rafael or Scholes or someone like that on the posts, that is if you opt to have players on both posts. Not all teams do. Some teams even leave them both empty and thus have more bodies in the box to possibly head the ball away.
Perhaps the goalkeeper takes part in deciding that but it doesn't change during a match all of a sudden. I doubt anyone would listen to such changes unless maybe if the seniors, Giggs, Scholes or Ferdinand, or captain Vidic would order them to.
I was often on post duty myself because of my size and during attacking corners, if I wasn't taking them, I was often put on the goalkeeper. Fairly easy jobs really and if you mess them up it's totally your fault. The easiest job in football besides standing in a wall. Our players still manage to blow that (Liverpool and Bayern goals spring to mind).
Looking at the goal (hadn't seen it) it was obviously tactical. Every other player was marking a man, Valencia was covering the short corner. We've usually got RvP there, Berba did it as well. It's a spot where you must have a player as many failed corners end up there. Naturally you take the man off the near post as it's almost the same space.
Awful marking from Rooney but that's hardly surprising. He's not good at it yet he often finds himself marking tall men. Not much that could've been done given the timing of the run, the corner and the header. Best to move on because it really is pointless dwelling on it.
The media will be all over him again after this one, even though Carrick is the one to blame for that goal, in my eyes.
It was poor play all round. The replay wasn't very flattering.
Carrick is without doubt the culprit in that particular feck up. It is a difficult one from De Gea's point of view, he looked a little too flimsy in his challenge for the ball but any contact with the player and it is a pen and possible red card.
Theres nothing he could do. The striker was there first. De Gea cant use his hands, and he cant touch the dude otherwise he gets sent off. The defenders just standing static didnt help either.
Im not having any blame on De Gea for that.
Im not having any blame on De Gea for that.
Carrick was at fault, but there can be no doubt that de Gea both could and should have done better; he should have dealt with Carrick's poor pass.
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