So journalists, pundits, fans of other clubs and United fans who don't think like you are all spastics, morons, pursuing agendas or WUMs? Get real.
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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Does every goal we ever concede have to be debated to death?
You're a wum because within seconds of the goal you were in here posting "another assist", you can hold whatever beliefs you want but its pretty clear at this point you were happy to be right (even though I disagree that you are) about DDG.
A full stretch one-handed save on a shot on the ground cannot be parried over the bar. Sir Isaac can explain why.
De Gea's only hope was to guide the ball past the post, but that would have been an incredible ballsy effort by De Gea to thread that kind of needle.
De Gea's only hope was to guide the ball past the post, but that would have been an incredible ballsy effort by De Gea to thread that kind of needle.
or they don't watch us as much as we do, and their views of our players are based on first impressions and the general feel about them- often based on xenophobic stereotypes.
Probably could have done better but there are plenty of other people to blame before him. Defenders were static, and midfield gave the ball away in a dangerous position needlessly. Rafael also should have followed up because sturridge was in acres of space alone.
Nope. Save time and just blame it on David.
Anyone got a gif anyway?
I think the point is DDG gets a disproportionate amount of criticism for his performances. Even when he does an average job, he gets criticized. Compare that with other keepers who hardly get a mention when they feck up.
I don't think anyone here claims he is the best in the world - far from it. We all know he is a young keeper still learning his trade. It just appears that the press and certain fans want him to be as good as VDS already which in itself is illogical and moronic.
That's what happens. Martin Tyler sounded surprised when he read out de Gea's name when he was talking about the line ups. Why? First thing he mentioned after it was how Lindegaard was injured.
He saved the shot coming through ferdinands legs hard down into the bottom corner, he did his job. To be a 100% perfect save yes sure he could of tried to palm it enough to push it round the post, but doing that risks letting the ball crawl into the net, imagine how he would be slated if that happened.
I dont really see how he could of done much more.
I dont really see how he could of done much more.
I thought he could have done better with the shot but if we're playing the blame game then Rafael's at fault for this one.
Paceme, i apologise for the insult. Totally unwarranted. I respect your opinion but again, i disagree that it was poor positioning.
It's just the way it is. Once you've got an image, it'll probably take two years of sustained brilliance for people to actually accept you as what you really are compared with what you may have been.
We won FFS, who cares? He's young, he's very talented and he will make mistakes. Nothing to see here really.
Does Rafael still get tagged with not being able to defend, rash in the tackle etc? I wouldn't be surprised. Even though he's been one of our best players this season he doesn't get much praise for it. Kyle Walker however, who has also been a bit shit for a while is the hottest new full back.
That's ok. I'm not somebody who usually criticises him and I think others were more to blame but I do think he could of done better with his save, despite it being a good one.
Agreed. Rafael's been brilliant this season, but ask some 'experts' and they'll tell you he is a liability and can't tackle.
You genuinely believe I'm happy when De Gea concedes goals? If that's your impression then it's an inaccurate one, I honestly want him to succeed.
Xenophobia, Christ, I forgot that one. The fact nearly all Premier League goalkeepers are foreign is presumably lost on you. I watch at least as much of United as you do.
Precisely.. How would anybody expect a goalkeeper to dive down, stretch his right hand, stop the shot, and at the same time push the ball around the farpost which was about 10 feet away?
Good thing is he played another 79 minutes behind Ferdinand & Vidic.
Now he's played 420 minutes with them together on the pitch. It is 7.9% of his United career.
Now he's played 420 minutes with them together on the pitch. It is 7.9% of his United career.
I was ready to blame him, then saw the replay and noticed it was a good save that he parried sideways more than any other direction.
If you want to blame anyone, blame the defence who were nowhere.
If you want to blame anyone, blame the defence who were nowhere.
You think an English goalkeeper at 21 gets named a 'Dodgy keeper' after 1 game? or do you think they took one error and applied their stereotype of Spanish keepers onto him?
Great save, unlucky that the rebound was converted by a player who reacted quicker than his CB.It's that simple
I know you aren't happy about conceding, and you probably do want him to do well, but I think your opinions about him make you overzealous to criticize and justify your opinions. I don't see too many other reasons why your immediate response to the goal is to get on here and post what you did.
He did very well to save the shot and get a good strong hand on it. The rest I'm afraid is down to the reactions of our defenders and pure luck.
If it wasn't for Cleverly and Carrick dicking around in front of our box and Rafael's slow reactions nothing would have come of it. But hey lets ignore those facts and blame every goal on De Gea.
"Better" exactly how?
I realize you're spreading the blame and I agree with you on that. But no one has explained what De Gea was supposed to do on the Gerrard shot. Casillas, Buffon and Neuer all would have gotten the same palm on the ball. How can I be so sure? Because I've seen it over and over.
Keepers are not magicians. They are subject to the same laws of physics and physiology as everyone else. When De Gea saved the Mata shot last season did he palm the ball back into the middle of the box? No. The Gerrard shot today was textbook, low and to the far post, setting up the follow up by Sturridge, who simply outhustled his defender on the loose ball. The kind of loose ball that every keeper gives up from time to time.
For someone keen to see him succeed, and not happy when things go against him you certainly seemed to take great delight in coming in here to credit him with an assist.
An opinion is one thing. Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one, but you don't just voice an opinion, you seem to think your opinion makes you special, that you know more than the average United fan in here, and that you and only you, manage to elevate yourself above the bias us less reasoned United fans have. You come across like a right smartarse too.
No, but English goalkeepers are the exception. They're a bit overrated but the overwhelming majority of Premier League goalkeepers are foreign, xenophobia wouldn't make De Gea underrated relative to them.
The immediacy is down to the need to vent about him costing us a goal. It's frustrating.
kietotheworld is just our resident United misanthrope.
He seems to take no joy from watching United.
Just look. Instead of celebrating a victory and praising some of the great performances, his only focus is to come on and discredit De Gea.
He's almost pissed off that we won because it limits his scope for having a go at our players. But he'll always find a way.
He seems to take no joy from watching United.
Just look. Instead of celebrating a victory and praising some of the great performances, his only focus is to come on and discredit De Gea.
He's almost pissed off that we won because it limits his scope for having a go at our players. But he'll always find a way.
Criticism over that goal is extremely harsh. It was a good save at full stretch where he had absolutely no help from any of his defenders.
And De Gea costing us another goal? Get a grip Kie. You come across as wanting DDG to fail and everything to be his fault.
And De Gea costing us another goal? Get a grip Kie. You come across as wanting DDG to fail and everything to be his fault.
I take no delight whatsoever in it, and I don't buy into the cult like following he's got on here where he never makes any mistakes and is definitely going to be the best goalkeeper in the world despite all neutrals working to destroy his career because of xenophobia. If that makea me a smart arse or special so be it.
Good reaction save very very harsh blaming him any blame should go to TC for giving it away Rio for not getting closer to Gerrard or Rafael who was on his heels for the rebound.
Why dive straight in to credit him with an assist? You're very naive if you think your reaction would be viewed as anything other than an "I told you so".
It was a great save, shame about the rebound. For it to be a perfect save, you're asking De Gea not to get such a firm hand on the ball, which risks it going into the net. De Gea did his job, the defence not so much, Sturridge very much so.
I suppose this makes you our resident psychic/telepath?
No, you're much more straightforward to read, without involving hocus pocus.
Some people would rather go through life being critical. Im not sure why but i can't help feeling a bit sorry for them. Enjoy the moment!
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