David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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Redknapp calling him average. cnut.
 
"Average Goalkeeper" according to Jamie :lol:. Unbelievable.
 
Brophs is correct, this shouldn't even be up for debate to be honest.
 
In fairness, the coverage is hilarious. Reina made more mistakes today then DDG but they'll only talk about David's.
 
And there it is, finding yourself on the same side of a debate as Jamie Redknapp should tell you how wrong you are.
 
Maybe he could've done better but of the 3, DDG was the least to blame on that goal.

Agreed. The moment he gave the rebound I knew they would score, but it was Clevz wiith an unnecessary screw up and Rafaeel caught napping that cost us.
 
FFS, people rightly criticised him for the Newcastle goal... so how is he immune from all criticism?

This was different. Maybe there can be questions raised over his positioning but you can't say he should push it out further from that save because the ball was well struck and his arm was fully extended

There were people on here excusing him because it was raining. It doesn't matter what he does, the narrative on here is always that he was amazing and doing any better is impossible. He parries the ball directly to a striker and we should be praising him for his amazing save, he leaves one side of his goal unguarded and he is actually a mastermind playing the probabilities and was unlucky. It's about time this forum returned to planet earth.
 
Even Souness looked embarrassed.
 
Nothing identical at all about the Swansea goal. The Newcastle one was a poor bit of keeping, but Swansea and today, he was not to blame. Another goal conceded so the let's blame the keeper brigade are out in full force again.

Only one person has squarely blamed him, everyone else who has criticised him has said it was minor and others were more to blame but then the 'de Gea is god' team come out like a bunch of retarded chimps not actually reading what said.
 
Do people want him to defy the rules of physics?? He could have done nothing for the goal today, absolutely nothing
 
I understand people defending De Gea, I do 99% of the time, he does get unfair criticism sometimes but they just showed the replay on Sky there. The shot isn't especially hard, it's not in the corner, it's actually fairly central. He should be doing better with it, in my opinion.
 
There were people on here excusing him because it was raining. It doesn't matter what he does, the narrative on here is always that he was amazing and doing any better is impossible. He parries the ball directly to a striker and we should be praising him for his amazing save, he leaves one side of his goal unguarded and he is actually a mastermind playing the probabilities and was unlucky. It's about time this forum returned to planet earth.

Do you not ever wonder why it's basically only you arguing for the things you argue about?
 
If De Gea is average, then Reina must be completely shite. He misjudged a couple of crosses, made some poor kicks but at least he didn't make a save at full stretch that then should have been dealt with by his defenders aye?

The goal was more Cleverley's fault, shouldn't have passed to Carrick when he was under so much pressure.
 
Only one person has squarely blamed him, everyone else who has criticised him has said it was minor and others were more to blame but then the 'de Gea is god' team come out like a bunch of retarded chimps not actually reading what said.

There were quite a few in the matchday thread blaming him, so obviously not only one.
 
It's funny how a young goalkeeper is treated so different to an outfield player. Outfield players are all 'young and learning' but most people expect our keeper to be outstanding week in week out at the age of 22, likelihood is he won't show his full potential for at least 5 more years.

His mistake today was minimal and was only made to occur because of failings in the midfield, then scored because someone switched off. It was just like most the goals we've conceded this year, several players all getting it wrong at once.

It's pretty self explanatory really. A goalkeeper makes a mistake and it almost always leads to a goal. Thus it's highlighted to a much greater extent.

That's not the case with an outfield player.
 
Another assist.

There were people on here excusing him because it was raining. It doesn't matter what he does, the narrative on here is always that he was amazing and doing any better is impossible. He parries the ball directly to a striker and we should be praising him for his amazing save, he leaves one side of his goal unguarded and he is actually a mastermind playing the probabilities and was unlucky. It's about time this forum returned to planet earth.

:lol:
 
He needs to realise that it's basic goalkeeping to always push the ball wide while saving the ball, if he is not able to hold on to it, rather than pushing it back to the dangerous area.

Goalkeeping 101
 
There were quite a few in the matchday thread blaming him, so obviously not only one.

The match day thread is no place to get a proper opinion on a player from posters. If RVP missed a sitter people would be saying 'feck sake' 'what the feck' does that mean they think he is shit? No. It's just an outburst of sudden emotion.
 
Nothing is changing my opinion that we bought him much too early. He's clearly a good goalkeeper who has the potential to grow into one of the very best in the world, but he's too young for a club of United's stature at the moment and therefore makes far too many mistakes. We needed someone who was already at their peak, because when the goalkeeper is the last line of defence then he can't afford to be making errors himself.
 
Do you not ever wonder why it's basically only you arguing for the things you argue about?

It's not though, open a newspaper, listen to a podcast watch Sky Sports News or Match of the Day, this is what most people are saying in the real world. It's only here where I'm seen as some sort of nutter or WUM.
 
He needs to realise that it's basic goalkeeping to always push the ball wide while saving the ball, if he is not able to hold on to it, rather than pushing it back to the dangerous area.

Goalkeeping 101

Yes, because that is always possible.

and the match day thread is full of rubbish at times, even I have been culpable for some shit spouted, but it feels like every goal we concede needs to be over analysed only because of who our goalkeeper is. He could concede any type of goal, then people will still come out with paragraphs to how he should be doing better, or how he's not United quality.
 
He needed to be central. Did you not wonder why he was at full stretch to save something pretty central?

If he moved any closer to the centre of the goal his view would be impaired by Rio standing directly in front of him and Gerrard would have an opening to catch De Gea out for a near-post goal. It was just a good strike and a good save. It would've been a great save if he managed to push that out for a corner.

The SkySports punditry was absurd. Casillas, Buffon, VDS, Schmeichel and so on have never made an identical mistake? As if.
 
I've watched the replay a few times now. It incredulous how he could be expected to push the shot around the post... He got down fast enough, save the shot, and somehow everybody expects him to parry a hard and low shot from the left, all the way across to the right and out of a goalkick. Spastics!!
 
It's not though, open a newspaper, listen to a podcast watch Sky Sports News or Match of the Day, this is what most people are saying in the real world. It's only here where I'm seen as some sort of nutter or WUM.

You are the only one who habitually blames him every game, even if he did little wrong. The 'real world' means you share the same opinion as the likes of Barclay, Merson and Redknapp - congratulations.
 
It's not though, open a newspaper, listen to a podcast watch Sky Sports News or Match of the Day, this is what most people are saying in the real world. It's only here where I'm seen as some sort of nutter or WUM.

The same newspapers that have journos that believe Rafael hasn't been good enough this season? The same TV networks that have people like Redknapp and Shearer on their payroll? Sure, I suppose they're never wrong. Never have agendas either of course.
 
It's not though, open a newspaper, listen to a podcast watch Sky Sports News or Match of the Day, this is what most people are saying in the real world. It's only here where I'm seen as some sort of nutter or WUM.

Like I said before, they said it after his first game, and it's stuck there. It wont go away any time soon because even when he plays well or does nothing wrong the goals we concede still get over analysed, which leads to the same crap being spouted. We could win the league by 10 points this season, and de Gea could keep 10 clean sheets and the same stuff will be said. Reina has been shit for a while now, and he was poor again today yet nothing at all was said.
 
It's not though, open a newspaper, listen to a podcast watch Sky Sports News or Match of the Day, this is what most people are saying in the real world. It's only here where I'm seen as some sort of nutter or WUM.

Within seconds of the goal you were on here posting "another assist". You clearly want to be right in your assessment that he isn't good enough. The rest of the world also completely ignored how utterly shit Reina was today (the rest of the season as well) and focused solely on DDG after the game today.
 
I understand people defending De Gea, I do 99% of the time, he does get unfair criticism sometimes but they just showed the replay on Sky there. The shot isn't especially hard, it's not in the corner, it's actually fairly central. He should be doing better with it, in my opinion.

Yes.
 
and the same world always gives motm awards to the likes of Rooney, Gerrard etc when they are undeserving. Rafael was brilliant today, it barely got a mention though. Glen Johnson got plenty of praise however.
 
Like I said in the match day thread, it was an average save. It would've been a brilliant save if he had pushed it for a corner.
 
If he moved any closer to the centre of the goal his view would be impaired by Rio standing directly in front of him and Gerrard would have an opening to catch De Gea out for a near-post goal. It was just a good strike and a good save. It would've been a great save if he managed to push that out for a corner.

The SkySports punditry was absurd. Casillas, Buffon, VDS, Schmeichel and so on have never made an identical mistake? As if.

Read my other posts. I don't think it was a massive mistake, it was tiny and ultimately a good save that Rafael should of dealt with after. I'm just annoyed at people thinking there is nothing extra that could be done to improve it and that he was at no fault. I haven't agreed with sky sports either.
 
He needed to be central. Did you not wonder why he was at full stretch to save something pretty central?


You are an idiot. Pretty sure you've never played goalkeeper. Gerrard was running to DDG's left, and basic goalkeeping is that you always cover your near post. His positioning was spot on.
 
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