David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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De Gea's distribution is top class. First thing that struck me when I saw him for A Madrid.

You'd swear last night was his first game for us. He was quality on numerous occassions last season. That and he's fooking 20 years of age.
 
DDG is going to be a star IMO but GKs get judged on consistency and being 20 his consistency levels are not there yet! But it's really obvious that all the tools are there and it's just a matter of him maturing into one of the best Gks in the world if not thee best!
 
I think DDG just shows you how much the average pundit/journalist watches football.

7 odd games on a Sat but by 10.30, they have apparently watched all of them and know that Hart has been 'brilliant' but DDG is 'dodgy' because over 90 mins he may have punched one cross, rather than caught it.

Normally it doesn't concern me and I don't buy this ABU crap but I honestly think he was one of the league's best keepers in the 2nd half of last year, pulls off unbelievable saves, yet you still get these morons churn out bullshit like "he was poor last season". Not hat he's without fault but what keeper isn't?!? I see the likes of Reina, Cech, Szczęsny and Hart continually make mistakes and look less-than-solid, yet I read nothing about it.
 
Yip, it's not malicious, but more a mix of sub-consciously talking up the English keeper, and being lazy.
 
I'd go as far as saying I trust him in net.
He's a quality shot stopper and has awesome reactions. They're the main things.
Until he improves how he deals with crosses the defenders should adapt and help him out more. There also seems to be a few communication errors (see Evans in the last game and the Vidic OG) but that doesn't worry me.

Like most people I'm not happy with the rotating but maybe Fergie's twisted idea is to release the massive pressure of being a goalkeeper at United by splitting it until they're established.
It might invite media pressure but it does take off some of the reliance on one person.
 
Having understood Fergie's psyche, I think De Gea was not "dropped". A couple of more plausible reasons would be.

(1) Fergie is resting him after playing for the Euro U-21s that started later during the EPL off-season. This in the interests of preventing DDG from being jaded later in the season.

(2) Fergie is punishing him not so much for form but for his attitude. See DDG caught shoplifting or DDG coming back with a ridiculous hairstyle. I think its a classic Fergie strategy of keeping the boy on his toes when he hasn't won anything yet. Remember, Fergie used to do the same to young Sharpey (for celebrating a goal at the corner flags, partying till late) and Beckham (for his ridiculous hairtstyles and Hollywood lifestyle)
 
Longlivekeano said:
Having understood Fergie's psyche, I think De Gea was not "dropped". A couple of more plausible reasons would be.

(1) Fergie is resting him after playing for the Euro U-21s that started later during the EPL off-season. This in the interests of preventing DDG from being jaded later in the season.

(2) Fergie is punishing him not so much for form but for his attitude. See DDG caught shoplifting or DDG coming back with a ridiculous hairstyle. I think its a classic Fergie strategy of keeping the boy on his toes when he hasn't won anything yet. Remember, Fergie used to do the same to young Sharpey (for celebrating a goal at the corner flags, partying till late) and Beckham (for his ridiculous hairtstyles and Hollywood lifestyle)
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Lindegaard recently signed a new contract and it wouldn't surprise me if one of the terms of the contract was that he plays a minimum amount of games every season. IMO that seems like the most plausible explanation because Lindegaard is a great back up keeper and I'm sure SAF wants to do everything he can to keep him happy and in turn keep him at the club. Lindegaard seems to be the best back up keeper that we've had in a while.
 
Longlivekeano said:
Having understood Fergie's psyche, I think De Gea was not "dropped". A couple of more plausible reasons would be.

(1) Fergie is resting him after playing for the Euro U-21s that started later during the EPL off-season. This in the interests of preventing DDG from being jaded later in the season.

(2) Fergie is punishing him not so much for form but for his attitude. See DDG caught shoplifting or DDG coming back with a ridiculous hairstyle. I think its a classic Fergie strategy of keeping the boy on his toes when he hasn't won anything yet. Remember, Fergie used to do the same to young Sharpey (for celebrating a goal at the corner flags, partying till late) and Beckham (for his ridiculous hairtstyles and Hollywood lifestyle)
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DDG's won more Europa Leagues than United.
 
With Liverpool's style of play, having a GK who's better at shot stopping would surely make more sense than someone who's better at dealing with crosses. Its ridiculous how we swap keepers, i just wish SAF would make his mind up about who he wants as his No 1. There's a fecking good reason why no top team rotates its keepers specially one which doesnt have a fit back 4 every game.
 
I just wish De Gea would play and SAF would stop ducking about
 
I just don't get what Fergie thought would happen when he signed a 20 year old keeper. Was always going to make some mistakes. If it's true that he's mostly going to be used in Europe for now then that doesn't make sense as he need to get more used to the English physicality as that's his issue.
 
For the life of me I don't understand why De Gea isn't starting. Lindegaard is not as good. At Everton we would have been humiliated were it not for De Gea and he was very handy to have against Galatasaray when they were piling the pressure on too. The guy's a world class shot stopper. You can argue that he doesn't deal with crosses that well but is Lindegaard that much better in the air than De Gea? I think he just gets targeted less with aerial balls cos he doesn't have De Gea's media profile. Against Liverpool and Southampton Lindegaard was not dominant in the air that's for sure.

De Gea must start.
 
#07 said:
For the life of me I don't understand why De Gea isn't starting. Lindegaard is not as good. At Everton we would have been humiliated were it not for De Gea and he was very handy to have against Galatasaray when they were piling the pressure on too. The guy's a world class shot stopper. You can argue that he doesn't deal with crosses that well but is Lindegaard that much better in the air than De Gea? I think he just gets targeted less with aerial balls cos he doesn't have De Gea's media profile. Against Liverpool and Southampton Lindegaard was not dominant in the air that's for sure.

De Gea must start.
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Why must he start though? Lindegaard has done his job when in goal, and gained Fergie's trust. DDG is our longterm number 1, but if Lindegaard is impressing fergie on and off the pitch, there is no reason for DDG having to start. He is 20-21, plenty of time to prove fergie wrong. He'll take his chances when he gets them.
 
Even though I do believe De Gea should be our first choice, people are quite clearly under-rating Lindegaard here. The gap between the two goalkeepers isn't that big; Linde's shot stopping is fantastic as well as De Gea's. The only aspect where I think there's a considerable difference between them is their distribution, and Lindegaard isn't exactly bad at them.

The only reason I want De Gea to start is because he'll obviously be the better goalkeeper in the long-term, if everything goes as planned of course. I'd prefer to keep him happy than Lindegaard because De Gea should be here for a very, very long time hopefully.

I think we should be content that we have two fantastic goalkeepers under our ranks. I can't remember the last time I could put my faith in our two goalkeepers.
 
Yeah, the rotation and Legaue Cup mean it's de Gea tomorrow.
 
Neither player can be blamed for the pathetic rotation tactic and both have done very well when playing but DDG is the better player and the better prospect so it would make more sense starting him and giving him the best chance to improve and fulfil his potential. Lindegaard is a very good GK in his own right but the better player should starting all the games in goal, and that is DDG imo.

Unless I'm mistaken, Chelsea didn't rotate between Cech & Cudicini. As a result, Cech established himself as one of the best in the world. DDG can do the same but he needs to be playing every week. Unless he has a series of mistakes (which I don't think he has since Feb) then there is no reason to keep him on the bench.
 
Simon Adebesi said:
De Gea will improve on crosses quicker playing in the PL than he will in training. Stick him in there and have patience.
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I dont think its as certain as we would all like to think. Some keepers just never become great on crosses.
 
thegregster said:
I dont think its as certain as we would all like to think. Some keepers just never become great on crosses.
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Fair point. De Gea should be given the opportunity to show whether he can improve on them or not, then. We wont learn one way or the other while he is practicing in training. I reckon he can become proficient at it, even if it always remains the weakest part of his game. But clearly that is hope talking there rather than any scientific calculation.
 
#07 said:
For the life of me I don't understand why De Gea isn't starting. Lindegaard is not as good. At Everton we would have been humiliated were it not for De Gea and he was very handy to have against Galatasaray when they were piling the pressure on too. The guy's a world class shot stopper. You can argue that he doesn't deal with crosses that well but is Lindegaard that much better in the air than De Gea? I think he just gets targeted less with aerial balls cos he doesn't have De Gea's media profile. Against Liverpool and Southampton Lindegaard was not dominant in the air that's for sure.

De Gea must start.
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I am against the rotation, and I think De Gea should be starter, but you can't say that Lindegaard isn't as good. De Gea had some world class saves, but so did Lindegaard, he probably screwed less goals than De Gea, and produced almost as many world class saves as De Gea, so it's fair to say that they both are great keepers who deserve to fight for their position. But still, we should name one as our first choice and that's it, I'm tired of outfield players rotation, nevermind keepers.
 
Mr Anderson said:
Why must he start though? Lindegaard has done his job when in goal, and gained Fergie's trust. DDG is our longterm number 1, but if Lindegaard is impressing fergie on and off the pitch, there is no reason for DDG having to start. He is 20-21, plenty of time to prove fergie wrong. He'll take his chances when he gets them.
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I doubt that there is plenty of time. If he will be used only as a second keeper this year I wouldn't bet against that he will hand a transfer request, which I could really understand.

Amar__ said:
I am against the rotation, and I think De Gea should be starter, but you can't say that Lindegaard isn't as good. De Gea had some world class saves, but so did Lindegaard, he probably screwed less goals than De Gea, and produced almost as many world class saves as De Gea, so it's fair to say that they both are great keepers who deserve to fight for their position. But still, we should name one as our first choice and that's it, I'm tired of outfield players rotation, nevermind keepers.
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The only advantage Lindegaard has on De Gea is his deal at crosses. There is no chance that he has made as much world class saves as De Gea. De Gea is a keeper who wins many points for us, but sometimes make mistakes. Lindergaard doesn't make as many mistakes but he doesn't make anything spectacular.
 
Ismail Elezi said:
The only advantage Lindegaard has on De Gea is his deal at crosses. There is no chance that he has made as much world class saves as De Gea. De Gea is a keeper who wins many points for us, but sometimes make mistakes. Lindergaard doesn't make as many mistakes but he doesn't make anything spectacular.
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You can't say he doesn't make anything spectacular, that's just not true, since I can recall one from our last game. He made spectacular save against liverpool to deny Suarez's shot, and I can recall many others in his United's career, eventough he didn't play too much games.
 
Amar__ said:
You can't say he doesn't make anything spectacular, that's just not true, since I can recall one from our last game. He made spectacular save against liverpool to deny Suarez's shot, and I can recall many others in his United's career, eventough he didn't play too much games.
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He makes good saves, but not spectacular ones (at-least not often). He is a keeper which doesn't make that much mistakes and is usually goot but not a top keeper like De Gea could be, and like he was this calendaric year.
 
Lindegard was well worth of his place on Sunday.

Nothing wrong with having two top keepers.
 
I am one of these that think the only place that should not be rotated is the keeper.
I think the team always plays better with a No1 keeper playing week in week out barring injury.
It worked when we had Big Pete and with VDS.
I think it should be DDG, not saying that Lindegaard is not a good keeper he is , I just think DDG is better.
 
thegregster said:
I dont think its as certain as we would all like to think. Some keepers just never become great on crosses.
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In truth, there are vere few keepers who are great on crosses at all, especially not today. Schmeichel was undoubtedly the best I've seen. VDS was up there too, no doubt, as was our own Norwegian Thorstvedt. Czech is OK, Casillas is average and Reina is horrible. Buffon used to be good, but I haven't seen him much lately.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
we are going to enjoy rotating our keepers because their level is about the same.
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Rotating keepers doesnt make any sense. Specially when we dont play a stable back 4. Both have their strengths, SAF should just pick 1 and make him the No 1.

Its not as if either of them is close to the end of their careers either. One has 7-8yrs left in him, the other is just 21.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
I am one of these that think the only place that should not be rotated is the keeper.
I think the team always plays better with a No1 keeper playing week in week out barring injury.
It worked when we had Big Pete and with VDS.
I think it should be DDG, not saying that Lindegaard is not a good keeper he is , I just think DDG is better.
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Exactly.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
I am one of these that think the only place that should not be rotated is the keeper.
I think the team always plays better with a No1 keeper playing week in week out barring injury.
It worked when we had Big Pete and with VDS.
I think it should be DDG, not saying that Lindegaard is not a good keeper he is , I just think DDG is better.
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So basically you're not in favour of rotation as long as its your idol that is the one always playing.

If Fergie announced that there would be no more rotation, Lindegaard is number one and will play every game, then your argument against rotation would evaporate.
 
De Gea is better he just isnt as physically strong as Lindegaard. And that helps a lot in the premier league. If we talk about technique and ability he's well ahead but some players like to have physical contact with a keeper and Lindegaard can be better against these. But already in his short career at United De Gea has kept us in more games and winning more points that sometimes we didnt deserve.
 
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