True, and that's why I'm not too fussed about dropping DG for a couple of games. Enough really good performances from (both of) them last season to know they both have a ton of talent. Just not the finished articles yet. Certainly not our weakest position though.
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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True, and that's why I'm not too fussed about dropping DG for a couple of games. Enough really good performances from (both of) them last season to know they both have a ton of talent. Just not the finished articles yet. Certainly not our weakest position though.
I agree he is nowhere near 3rd in the world. Yet, I believe that if Casillas came and played in the premiership, nobody would even consider him the best in the world. He is a very good shot stopper, same as De Gea, but is also prone to howlers and would get bullied by crosses over here.
It wasn't claimed that he was a top 3 keeper.
We badly missed his distribution. It helps us keep the ball and ticking over when it's played back to him. Lindegaard looked a bombscare every time the ball was at his feet and this led to pressure that ended in a goal. He didn't have much chance with either goal, and made a couple of decent saves, so there can't be much criticism. However, DDG would be my first choice every week.
surprise that fergei has started this rotating thing again. this is the last thing de gea need. he was our best player against everton and that vidic o.g wasn't 100% his mistake imo.
i guess lindegaard didn't do himself any favour with his kicking as well. back to de gea after the internationals then. i hope he will not lost any of his confidence.
i guess lindegaard didn't do himself any favour with his kicking as well. back to de gea after the internationals then. i hope he will not lost any of his confidence.
For the first half of last season he generally always got the game before international break off as well.
Odd.
Odd.
Should be playing every week because
A. he's fecking good
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B. Lindegaard is a bit shit.
A. he's fecking good
and
B. Lindegaard is a bit shit.
Yep we all want DDG to be playing but Fergie is only protecting him as he is very young for a keeper. Can't understand why lindegaard is getting abuse though he's an excellent back up keeper only Spurs have better. He has never let us down!
Lindegaard comes across very self-confident and cocky, but when you don't actually perform like that, you look a bit silly.
I agree that DDG should play every game, and that Fulham mistake should have been shared, as I have no idea what Vidic was attempting with his pathetic attempt at a challenge on Petric from behind and from the wrong side!
I just think constantly changing a goal keeper when we're already having trouble in defence due to injuries and players playing shit isn't the best remedy. Defence is always about playing a settled team, and changing goalkeepers is just daft in my opinion.
The goal against Fulham that we was fluffed was between two players who haven't even played that much together. The best way to rectify that problem isn't by switching the keeper its by playing together and becoming a partnership.
Lindegaard did alright apart from he can't seem to kick a moving ball higher than 10 feet or further than the half way line.
The goal against Fulham that we was fluffed was between two players who haven't even played that much together. The best way to rectify that problem isn't by switching the keeper its by playing together and becoming a partnership.
Lindegaard did alright apart from he can't seem to kick a moving ball higher than 10 feet or further than the half way line.
DDG is a better keeper than Lindegard, i sincerely hope we play him on a consistent basis rather than changing every other game.
This. Why do people big our players up? He's a very good goalkeeper, one of the best in the Premiership, the world? feck off. He doesn't even have a senior international cap ffs.
Lindegaard deserved his chance and didn't do anything wrong yesterday. His distribution needs to be improved but his actual goalkeeping was fine. He's too good to be left on the bench for the entire season, he can pull off some exceptional saves when he has too.
Fergie explained his choice after the game, he said all the preparation for the match was on far post crosses and crossing in general - something he was dissapointed with how we handled.
He clearly chose lindegaard as he is stronger at claiming the ball in the air period. I don't think it's a bad choice, DDG needs to know its a squad game, and why play a player who's weakness is the opposition strength? If smalling was fit he would of started Rb aswell no doubt, he would of handled lambert much better.
He clearly chose lindegaard as he is stronger at claiming the ball in the air period. I don't think it's a bad choice, DDG needs to know its a squad game, and why play a player who's weakness is the opposition strength? If smalling was fit he would of started Rb aswell no doubt, he would of handled lambert much better.
I think every little mistake needs to be embraced and learned from, and that's why DDG shouldn't be dropped JUST because of the potential aerial bombardment expected. How will he ever learn?
As for Smalling, he might have handled Lambert better but then again he might not have really bothered to mark him at all(flippant remark there). Actually I was wondering where our centre-halves were when they specifically should have been marking Lambert?
Lambert only scored because he was so much bigger than rafael, he was almost a 2 feet above him when he jumped.
Ferdinand or vidic could not follow him out wide, it would of left a massive hole in the defence, and if you watch a replay of the cross there were runners coming into the box through the middle. We did everything properly unfortunately the cross, the jump and the header were all done perfectly. Sometimes you've got to just say well done.
I'm sure Lindegaard was picked because he made some amazing saves in the U21 game...
Using the international thing against him is quite harsh. Look at the long list of England keepers in recent years. Spain also have a ridiculous amount of talented keepers compared to other countries.
This is nonsense though. He's nowhere near as error prone as De Gea. While DDG has improved in that respect, he still makes a lot more errors than Casillas. Casillas wouldn't be bullied over here at all. If he came here he'd be considered as the best GK in the world, like he is funnily enough.
Lindegaard deserves to start games. He does nothing wrong not to feature in games. DDG , with his inconsistency, just cannot be claimed to be the world's best keeper. At his age, he can be the best young keeper, but not the best at all. He's still learning, and it will take time for him to be much better, and for us to be able to depend on him like we did on VDS
Not sure where De Gea's inconsistency was in the second half of last season, when he was (consistently) one of our best players...
But if you're supposedly one of the top 3 GK's in the world then you'd expect to be playing International football.
De Gea is a very promising young Goalkeeper who will become one of the best Keepers in the world. For someone to say he's already there is outrageous as he's not even the best Goalkeeper in the Premiership.
Well I certainly don't think he's top 3 material, he will be in years to come but right now no not anywhere near.
Same reason that joe hart was not used in the world cup. Managers are scare to use young goalkeepers as they feel their in-experience will cost them.
Sometimes though you just have to go with quality, as Rob greens blunder showed
That's not why Joe Hart wasn't used. He was left out because Cappello thought Green and James were better goalkeepers. Hart had only had one very good season in the Premier League at the time.
no, because Fergie was expecting a lot of crosses to our box.
its debatable if he is even the best keeper at United.
He will be great, no doubt, but he isnt the finished article yet by a long way!
I was actually relieved to hear Fergie saying he dropped De Gea over the mistake. If he thinks that's the right move, fine. He probably understands the reaction of the players better than us, and we've seen De Gea is not a pussy. Better this than silly and needless rotation.
But on that Spanish team is the best goalkeeper in the world, one of the best goalkeepers in the England in last years (though not anymore) and the Barca's goalkeeper whom I believe was called up for Spain only because he is a Barca player and could have a good impact in Xavi, Iniesta and co.
De Gea being this young had virtually no chance of being called for Spain. But I think that this will change and I fully expect that he will be called for World Cup.
Saying all this, he is not in Top 3 but I would say that he is in Top 10 goalkeepers.
So within the confines of the penalty area, Rio or Vidic are unable to mark the centre-forward because of fear of leaving a gap???
It's not like Lambert was lurking on the left wing, is it? And if you're going in that direction, then we may as well go completely zonal defence.
Not at all. Sir Alex said postmatch that we had spent considerable time on deliveries to the far post and how to deal with them. Knowing Rafael was going to start as RB, it made no sense to have him marking the giant. To deal with crosses, the CB should have moved wide and let rafael drift inside to not leave the gap. They were doing it as a strategy and we knew they would, should have planned better.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2914...capable-of-beating-real-madrid-and-barcelona-
David De Gea compliments City and their team.
"City are a great team," he told Marca. "They are full of great players in all positions. The substitutes are also top-class.
"It will be really difficult for Real Madrid, both in the Bernabeu and in Manchester. You don't get anything for free in the Champions League."
"City has a similar style to Real. It is quick to get the ball forward and looks to directly attack," he continued.
"The strike-force is deadly, as the club has an incredible group of strikers. But if you want to win the Champions League you've got to beat the best teams, and City are one of them."
"It's not about whether the team's style of play will suit Real," he added.
"The team is full of great players, who are very talented and can cause you damage at any moment. They are capable of beating anyone, whether that's Real Madrid or Barcelona."
"David is a vital player for them. City is a different team without him; it doesn't play the same way," he continued.
"But it's not just about Silva. Kun is always up for it and he'll be extra motivated against Real. He's a great player and scores a lot of goals. It's a joy to watch him play"
David De Gea compliments City and their team.
"City are a great team," he told Marca. "They are full of great players in all positions. The substitutes are also top-class.
"It will be really difficult for Real Madrid, both in the Bernabeu and in Manchester. You don't get anything for free in the Champions League."
"City has a similar style to Real. It is quick to get the ball forward and looks to directly attack," he continued.
"The strike-force is deadly, as the club has an incredible group of strikers. But if you want to win the Champions League you've got to beat the best teams, and City are one of them."
"It's not about whether the team's style of play will suit Real," he added.
"The team is full of great players, who are very talented and can cause you damage at any moment. They are capable of beating anyone, whether that's Real Madrid or Barcelona."
"David is a vital player for them. City is a different team without him; it doesn't play the same way," he continued.
"But it's not just about Silva. Kun is always up for it and he'll be extra motivated against Real. He's a great player and scores a lot of goals. It's a joy to watch him play"
Smart cookie.
Has De Gea grown?
He looks as tall as Lindegaard in this year's squad picture compared to last year's when he looked shorter.
He looks as tall as Lindegaard in this year's squad picture compared to last year's when he looked shorter.
He's always been a bit weak at coming for crosses though Cheesy, and playing in England would highlight that, in a similar way to the spotlight falling on DDG for the same weakness.
It isn't really. It's like saying that it's debatable that the moon is made out of cheese.
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David De Gea is so so convincing at making saves. I have full trust in him to make saves, if it is savable.
Yes, crosses are tricky, but he's literally such a beast at shot stopping it's incredible. 17 million quid seems a bargain all things considered.
That fee spread over a 15+ year period works out to around 1m quid a year, plus wages. Plus, his distribution is excellent, in addition to the aforementioned shot stopping. Real classy player we've landed.
His kicking is also streets ahead of Lindegaard.
DDG only problem is that he is afraid of going for the ball in when there are set pieces... if he works on this "little" issue, he'll be regarded as one of the best keeper in the world.
As Sir Alex has said, DDG is a long term project. When he has a little more meat on his bones I'm sure he'll be more convincing on crosses and dealing with contact.
Other than that he's absolutely brilliant and more often our saviour than someone who lets us down.
Other than that he's absolutely brilliant and more often our saviour than someone who lets us down.
Agreed and he will work it out I just hope when he does he doesn't up sticks and move back to Spain. On another point Hart is a few years older and stronger yet he is yet to master crosses but being English and not costing as much money I guess he certainly doesn't get the same scrutiny but he's a bomb scare on crosses!
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