If only there was some way for Barca to generate funds... hmm
Darwin Núñez / signs for Liverpool
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So what you’re saying is, that United is blocking Liverpool signing Nunez by not buying FDJ.
Completely disagree. Only 2 players coming in is absolutely miles off where we need to be.
We’ve got weaknesses right across the team. Even 6 players coming in will be questionable whether we would challenge for anything significant.
Lets hope we get FDJ. Then the dominos can fall as you predict and liverpool get nuzez guy.
we won’t be challenging, shouldn’t be challenging…we’ve practically been in the shadows (more like wilderness for a decade it seems)…if it was 20 years some fans would still expect to challenge the next year…it’s really odd
He is shit anyway
In case he goes to Liverpool
In case he goes to Liverpool
If you look at the Mane threads from 2015 when it looked like you might be signing, they were full of moans about him not being good enough:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/southampton-forward-sadio-mane.408256/
And that's just the tip of the iceberg. A couple who'd rather sign Berahino. Only one poster, @Celestiale, who actually dared suggest that he was better than Pedro.
I think Ronaldo at 37 will be sort of like Zlatan at 34-35. We were still fine that year in the league. I don't know what y'all expect for a backup striker but I'm pretty sure whoever comes won't be any better than Rashford / Martial at CF. We're also not going to sign 6 players this summer, so those two + some backfill is the best you can expect.
Don't really expect us to challenge City / Pool this year. Even the club says it'll be 2-3 years before we win and that's just media spin.
I'll phrase it in terms of points instead, I think we'll go from 58 points last season to 70+ points this season. That should count as success.
Yeah, Nunez is basically the Salah replacement, isn't he?
Be interesting to see the dynamic up front with both of them in there.
I think Jota scorings loads through the centre has perhaps changed Klopp's thinking about what we need from the centre forward and to what extend we can get away with just stacking goalscorers up front.
Reckon Diaz will benefit from having a goalscorer in the centre.
It should. The inflated expectations don't really help. I remember how much shit mourinho took for failing to keep pace with a city side that won 100 points and thinking how ridiculous it was at the time.
Yeah I agree. However I wouldn’t be surprised if the long term goal is to change into a 4231 and have the 10 playing behind the focal point in the centre. Jota could probably still do that and Cavalho after a season under his belt.
I don''t think Jota has anywhere near the allround game to play as a 10 for us.
Might be a revival of sorts for Firmino if so. And Elliot in particular would be very interesting to see in such a role.
This is Redcafe mate. Majority here don't know what makes a good player
I will move rise his level up and category him as "Run to buy before other gets him ". Not because of Liverpool linking. Because i have been busy a week. Then i saw the Liverpool linking. Few weeks i choose him between Lewandoski, Schick and this boy. And still i will go for this boy over Lewandoski and Czech Patrick Schick. He is the real deal.
High energetic, raw. But he has pace, guts and power to get away from defenders.
Look at the goal he scored against Ten Hag and Ajax. If not buying Tadic. You buy equal good crosser and pass foot like Christian Eriksen for free, Bruno, Raphinha on the right side and De Jong to feed him. Consistently and with top quality crossers. Then with Nunezs guts, ability and willing to reach the ball first. You can see some head goals like that against Ajax and Ten Hag.
And like above. On the ground. With his energy, guts, raw power and determination. He will get away from defenders. In other words. A CF hard to meet. Because of all the factors and ingredients he is putting on his playing.
When i choose him over Robert Lewandoski. You get to be really good. Nunez is both short and long term solution. Like Ronaldo, Mitrovic and Sebastien Haller. They need top quality service.
And at Liverpool. To be objective. Luiz Diaz, Henderson and Salah can deliver top service. Just like De Bruyne and City players. Easy to CF for City and Liverpool. Even City without a CF can win premier league title. its say how much the top service around the CF is counting.
And he is only 22 and has everything to become a really good CF in the future.
And if with no RW signing.
Ten Hag can drop RW to add another CF upfront. I saw Ten Hag using 4312 in Ajax 2 last league matches.
Eriksen - Fred/Garner - De Jong + Bruno + Nunez - Ronaldo/Rashford
Nunez 22. Will replace Ronaldo as United CF about a year.
Ten Hag shall convince Nunez he will play a key role at United this season. And that United dont only use Ronaldo as a lonley striker. 4312 with two CF can be a option.
And if you want to convince Nunez. When Ten Hag is talking with him. I think Ten hag shall mention United are trying to sign De Jong and trying to build a winning team in the future. Convice him to join a future winning team.
Right now Mbappe. Diaz picked Liverpool over Spurs. And Nunez. City and Liverpool are winning and dominating teams right now. Many top players will prefers those dominate teams.
Then as head coach for another big teams. You have to talk and convince top players to join you. Your plan and goal for United. Then Frenkie De Jong from Barca shall be one of the factors and puzzlez to help United become a dominating and winning team again.
I think its not only about history and athmosphere of the Liverpool. Mostly peoples and players are choosing winning teams. A Advantage factors to those teams against United. Ten Hag shall tell and convice them about his and United future plan and goals.
High energetic, raw. But he has pace, guts and power to get away from defenders.
Look at the goal he scored against Ten Hag and Ajax. If not buying Tadic. You buy equal good crosser and pass foot like Christian Eriksen for free, Bruno, Raphinha on the right side and De Jong to feed him. Consistently and with top quality crossers. Then with Nunezs guts, ability and willing to reach the ball first. You can see some head goals like that against Ajax and Ten Hag.
And like above. On the ground. With his energy, guts, raw power and determination. He will get away from defenders. In other words. A CF hard to meet. Because of all the factors and ingredients he is putting on his playing.
When i choose him over Robert Lewandoski. You get to be really good. Nunez is both short and long term solution. Like Ronaldo, Mitrovic and Sebastien Haller. They need top quality service.
And at Liverpool. To be objective. Luiz Diaz, Henderson and Salah can deliver top service. Just like De Bruyne and City players. Easy to CF for City and Liverpool. Even City without a CF can win premier league title. its say how much the top service around the CF is counting.
And he is only 22 and has everything to become a really good CF in the future.
And if with no RW signing.
Ten Hag can drop RW to add another CF upfront. I saw Ten Hag using 4312 in Ajax 2 last league matches.
Eriksen - Fred/Garner - De Jong + Bruno + Nunez - Ronaldo/Rashford
Nunez 22. Will replace Ronaldo as United CF about a year.
Ten Hag shall convince Nunez he will play a key role at United this season. And that United dont only use Ronaldo as a lonley striker. 4312 with two CF can be a option.
And if you want to convince Nunez. When Ten Hag is talking with him. I think Ten hag shall mention United are trying to sign De Jong and trying to build a winning team in the future. Convice him to join a future winning team.
Right now Mbappe. Diaz picked Liverpool over Spurs. And Nunez. City and Liverpool are winning and dominating teams right now. Many top players will prefers those dominate teams.
Then as head coach for another big teams. You have to talk and convince top players to join you. Your plan and goal for United. Then Frenkie De Jong from Barca shall be one of the factors and puzzlez to help United become a dominating and winning team again.
I think its not only about history and athmosphere of the Liverpool. Mostly peoples and players are choosing winning teams. A Advantage factors to those teams against United. Ten Hag shall tell and convice them about his and United future plan and goals.
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You could also check out the Salah thread and VVD thread on the general disdain for the price.
Predictions are obviously notoriously difficult in football and any signing is a gamble. But when the track record stands up to just about anybody in world football, one has to just start believing in the process.
Looks like he’ll score a few goals, obviously can shoot a football. Not losing much sleep over this though not the player we need I don’t think. Not even sure he’s a Liverpool fit..
The sooner you lower your expectations for the coming season the sooner you can mend your broken heart.
Yay
So we have taken 2 steps back last season, and hope to move one forward next season.
That’s sums it up well.
Believing the Portuguese press is a mugs game.
The way these lot do their transfer business is unreal. (If true)
Whether he ends up being the real deal or not, 80m being the going rate for a lad with one good season in the Portuguese league under his belt is insanity.
They just put a bid in like everybody else. Nothing special.
its an auction more than anything. What other striking talent is there? if not Nunez who else are you going to get? there's a huge lack of quality strikers.
True true. But for this amount ? 100m really.
Yeah your right. I was thinking more SS behind Nunez but could put Nunez as inside forward with Jota uptop (He’s played there for you there a couple times last season right?). He’s defo not good enough for that type of 10 role. Bruno vibes
It’s mad isn’t it, said it in another thread as well.
I think United need to up their transfer budget because it’s increasingly looking like player price is going up.
Fair play, those were dark days when people considered Pedro our potential savior
Mane wound up hitting heights he never did
Fair play, those were dark days when people considered Pedro our potential savior
Mane wound up hitting heights he never did
It took me a few minutes to place the face to the name. I was wondering when had a Mexican taken the PL by storm.
Brutal.
Fair play, those were dark days when people considered Pedro our potential savior
Mane wound up hitting heights he never did
To be fair, I'd have mid-20s Pedro for our right wing now.
Who is SS?Yeah your right. I was thinking more SS behind Nunez but could put Nunez as inside forward with Jota uptop (He’s played there for you there a couple times last season right?). He’s defo not good enough for that type of 10 role. Bruno vibes
It's a bit of a weird one with Jota and what we're asking from the centre forward now.
Formerly, we had Firmino in the centre doing all sorts of klopp-critical stuff that justified him not scoring that many goals.
Then Jota displaces him by scoring goals, making runs and being a threat in the box but doing very little of the work on and off the ball that Firmino would get through.
And now we're at a point where Jota doesn't really have the allround game to play wide for us and we stick him in the centre to at least get on the end of things.
Honestly reckon Jota will either get found out or stick around as a Javier Hernández type of player. He doesn't have enough about him outside of goals to justify a starting place.
As was 75m for a defender from southampton.
I'm putting my faith in our guys that if we're willing to pay such a fee, it's because we believe he'll be exceptional and will justify the fee soon enough.
But in general, yeah it is a bit mad. Follows on from Real paying 100m for Tchouameni. Which wouldn't have happened either if Mbappe had signed.
Nunez signs for us -> for Mane to sign for Bayern -> Lewandowski signs for Barca -> De Jong signs for United.
80m is mad but Liverpool can afford to take risks like that because they already have an excellent, well stocked squad. It would look a lot of dumber if we blew a massive chunk of our budget on him.
Ah this must be (almost) done and dusted then
Yeah. Time to move on.
Didn’t want him anyway. Absolute cart horse.
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