Darwin Núñez / signs for Liverpool

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roonster09 said:
Almost all reliable Liverpool journalists reported it, it would be stupid from Liverpool point of view to do that unless he is very close.

Maybe Ogden is just out of loop, anyways I think once Moyes was sacked, he is not that reliable.
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If I'm not mistaken Rob Dawson has echo'ed similar thoughts, in that both clubs are interested and will go head to head. But he didn't go as far as to suggest Liverpool have put in any firm bid.

I think the United journalists are briefed the race is more open/favours United (Dawson said this in an earlier tweet in this thread). Liverpool journalists have reported a greater degree of advancement on their side.
 
VP89 said:
If I'm not mistaken Rob Dawson has echo'ed similar thoughts, in that both clubs are interested and will go head to head. But he didn't go as far as to suggest Liverpool have put in any firm bid.

I think the United journalists are briefed the race is more open/favours United (Dawson said this in an earlier tweet in this thread). Liverpool journalists have reported a greater degree of advancement on their side.
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I don't think Dawson is very good either,

Maybe what they said is true but IMO both Ogden and Dawson are not very reliable,

If Paul Hirst, Ducker report something then it has higher chance of being true, I rate Samuel Luckhurst higher than the Odgen and Dawson.
 
roonster09 said:
I don't think Dawson is very good either,

Maybe what they said is true but IMO both Ogden and Dawson are not very reliable,

If Paul Hirst, Ducker report something then it has higher chance of being true, I rate Samuel Luckhurst higher than the Odgen and Dawson.
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Yeah, same. I don't think Dawson and Ogden are unreliable, but they're not top tier.

But we are also assuming our method of briefing journalists is the same. Transfers are being handled by Murtough now and I'm getting the vibe that he's a lot more secretive and doesn't want to brief journalists on each advancement as much as we used to, or as Liverpool might.


All we know is that there's a firm interest. Whitwell said this. Barring that nothing is given away to tier 1 journalists from United.
 
roonster09 said:
Almost all reliable Liverpool journalists reported it, it would be stupid from Liverpool point of view to do that unless he is very close.

Maybe Ogden is just out of loop, anyways I think once Moyes was sacked, he is not that reliable.
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Ogden was one of the ones I'd genuinely trust a few years ago, he attends press conferences at Carrington and watches the games at OT. It's fair to say he'd get some inside info and be well sourced.

I notice that a lot of his United stuff is very much opinion based now though.
 
VP89 said:
Yeah, same. I don't think Dawson and Ogden are unreliable, but they're not top tier.

But we are also assuming our method of briefing journalists is the same. Transfers are being handled by Murtough now and I'm getting the vibe that he's a lot more secretive and doesn't want to brief journalists on each advancement as much as we used to, or as Liverpool might.


All we know is that there's a firm interest. Whitwell said this. Barring that nothing is given away to tier 1 journalists from United.
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I think our interest was real, I also think Liverpool are close to signing him. Maybe we didn't follow up, maybe he didn't want to play for non CL club or maybe once he was approached by Liverpool he wanted to move there, so we dropped our interest as the chances are slim.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Ogden was one of the ones I'd genuinely trust a few years ago, he attends press conferences at Carrington and watches the games at OT. It's fair to say he'd get some inside info and be well sourced.

I notice that a lot of his United stuff is very much opinion based now though.
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I think it was during Moyes time or till Van Gaal was sacked.
 
roonster09 said:
I think our interest was real, I also think Liverpool are close to signing him. Maybe we didn't follow up, maybe he didn't want to play for non CL club or maybe once he was approached by Liverpool he wanted to move there, so we dropped our interest as the chances are slim.
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Decent summary I reckon and I agree. I'd also throw in that we had a price in mind and its gone above that in the mix.
 
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He’s going Liverpool.

The truth is no one has a clue as to who we are serious about and who we aren’t.

If you total up the prices of all the players we are supposedly targeting, we’ll need to buy a bank!

Nunez - €100m
De Jong - €80m
Timber - €40m
Antony - €60-70m
Nknunku? Fofana?

At the moment at best I see us signing one big player and a couple of cheaper ones. The transfer window is likely to be nowhere near as successful as we need it to be.
 
roonster09 said:
I think our interest was real, I also think Liverpool are close to signing him. Maybe we didn't follow up, maybe he didn't want to play for non CL club or maybe once he was approached by Liverpool he wanted to move there, so we dropped our interest as the chances are slim.
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I don't believe this. I think United have a long standing interest in Darwin Nunez and took a different approach to Liverpool. Liverpool appeared to have rocked up to the club with an verbal offer (if we believe the Liverpool Tier 1 briefs).

United have been massaging the player (for lack of a better phrase!) for weeks or even months. It's been a while since Laurrie Whitwell said we've been in direct talks with Nunez. I think we'd make an offer if we thought he is swayed by us given our extra attention to the player to show we really want him.

If we bid then its likely because we fancy our chances after weeks of talk with his agent. If we don't then I agree we accept we'd miss out. This is where it gets less credible (but not wholly unreliable), but given Rob Dawson said we are ready to bid for the player + that we think he will fancy us, I think we will give a bid of equal amount.
 
Chief123 said:
He’s going Liverpool.

The truth is no one has a clue as to who we are serious about and who we aren’t.

If you total up the prices of all the players we are supposedly targeting, we’ll need to buy a bank!

Nunez - €100m
De Jong - €80m
Timber - €40m
Antony - €60-70m
Nknunku? Fofana?

At the moment at best I see us signing one big player and a couple of cheaper ones. The transfer window is likely to be nowhere near as successful as we need it to be.
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We don't really need that many to improve significantly. Just De Jong and Timber would push us up another level from last season.

Two other really big holes are RW and CF but they'd have to wait until Jan / next summer.
 
VP89 said:
I don't believe this. I think United have a long standing interest in Darwin Nunez and took a different approach to Liverpool. Liverpool appeared to have rocked up to the club with an verbal offer (if we believe the Liverpool Tier 1 briefs).

United have been massaging the player (for lack of a better phrase!) for weeks or even months. It's been a while since Laurrie Whitwell said we've been in direct talks with Nunez. I think we'd make an offer if we thought he is swayed by us given our extra attention to the player to show we really want him.

If we bid then its likely because we fancy our chances after weeks of talk with his agent. If we don't then I agree we accept we'd miss out. This is where it gets less credible (but not wholly unreliable), but given Rob Dawson said we are ready to bid for the player + that we think he will fancy us, I think we will give a bid of equal amount.
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He's a Mendes player right? That certainly means he won't muck us about, interesting to see what happens. Kind of want us to sign him to see the instant propaganda of him choosing money and how dare he turn down quadruple winning Liverpool and Klopp.
 
Teja said:
We don't really need that many to improve significantly. Just De Jong and Timber would push us up another level from last season.

Two other really big holes are RW and CF but they'd have to wait until Jan / next summer.
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We'll struggle MASSIVELY next season if a 37yr old is still our best ST backed up by a 27yr old Frenchman who's completely forgotten how to play football for 2yrs. It's just as big a priority as a midfielder.
We need a CB or RB too regardless of Timber because of departures
 
Teja said:
We don't really need that many to improve significantly. Just De Jong and Timber would push us up another level from last season.

Two other really big holes are RW and CF but they'd have to wait until Jan / next summer.
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I can’t see De Jong and Timber pushing us to another level. If we just sign these two, Utd will still be fighting for 4th, like this season.
 
Josh 76 said:
I can’t see De Jong and Timber pushing us to another level. If we just sign these two, Utd will still be fighting for 4th, like this season.
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We need to improve in a lot of positions before we even think about top 4. De Jong and Timber won't do this on their own, and we cannot expect the youngsters to do it either.
 
UNITED ACADEMY said:
Last year, this guy wasn't mentioned in the striker market. This shows every year, you will see new name come out so I'm not too concerned that we make this guy as the least priority for this summer. We need to focus on midfield first because it's more urgent than forward as we already have Ronaldo in the position and we still haven't sell Rashford and Martial, which can be an option for Ronaldo's backup. I'm not saying we should ignore the forward position this summer if we get the chance to upgrade but the priority should be on midfield and centre back and then we will see what we have left and how much we can sell to add extra fund for forward.
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Good point.
Having one good season in the Portuguese league and you worth 100m. The worlds gone mad!
 
It's soooo funny how this guy was Lukaku 2.0 some days ago and turned into prime Ronaldo the second Liverpool is in the race :lol: :lol:
 
arthurka said:
This transfer makes no sense he isn't good on the ball. Don't see how he can fit into that Liverpool team.
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He's 22 . When Drogba went to Chelsea he couldn't even trap a ball. He ended up doing alright.

Do you expect him to come in and bang 50 goals a season from the get go ?
 
Branchofscience said:
He's 22 . When Drogba went to Chelsea he couldn't even trap a ball. He ended up doing alright.

Do you expect him to come in and bang 50 goals a season from the get go ?
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Just the 32 goals in 55 appearances, no exaggeration here.
 
Once Liverpool were seriously in for him he was never going to pick us over them unless we pulled out the crazy money again which we don't really have anymore , I think he will be a very good signing for them.
 
I'm one of the few on here who rates his attributes, though clearly he needs to improve on other aspects of his game, but I wouldn't go over 50 million for him.
 
When Mane joined Liverpool I saw him as just pace without end product. He was raw. And then Klopp made him ballon d'or contender player.

Darwin I see currently is far better version of Mane of that time. Klopp can turn him into even deadlier than Mane.
 
Tony247 said:
When Mane joined Liverpool I saw him as just pace without end product. He was raw. And then Klopp made him ballon d'or contender player.

Darwin I see currently is far better version of Mane of that time. Klopp can turn him into even deadlier than Mane.
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Darwin may very well become a better player under Klopp but comparing Mane to him is off the mark by some distance.
 
Tony247 said:
When Mane joined Liverpool I saw him as just pace without end product. He was raw. And then Klopp made him ballon d'or contender player.

Darwin I see currently is far better version of Mane of that time. Klopp can turn him into even deadlier than Mane.
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Mane could control a ball and actuallly dribble well. Nunez is as Salah as they get and it would be smart to get him in now for if/when Salah leaves on a free.

Diaz will replace Mane.
 
I would buy him. He will be great in the PL.

Said weeks ago he is the best striker available this summer. Him going to Liverpool is bad news, think he will explode there
 
Can you imagine the chaos at the club now that they see that Liverpool isn't messing around? Everyone's probably getting into gear now when we should have done that before they even entered the race.

If we get him or not this is a good early lesson for the club this summer to not mess around. We can't keep flirting with these players, let's get moving!
 
Tony247 said:
When Mane joined Liverpool I saw him as just pace without end product. He was raw. And then Klopp made him ballon d'or contender player.

Darwin I see currently is far better version of Mane of that time. Klopp can turn him into even deadlier than Mane.
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Loads of people wanted Mane including ourselves at that time, so that's hyperbole.
 
Tony247 said:
When Mane joined Liverpool I saw him as just pace without end product. He was raw. And then Klopp made him ballon d'or contender player.

Darwin I see currently is far better version of Mane of that time. Klopp can turn him into even deadlier than Mane.
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this is utter shite mate
 
I've watched a few videos of him. He has that hectic style that will suit Liverpool's attacking play perfectly.
 
Athletic said Nunez prefers a move to Liverpool over any other club

EDIT:thats from yesterday :lol: Not sure why I got a late notification on my phone
 
Strange to see why he wants to go to Liverpool instead of us...

Almost certain to be a starter, where he would have to compete with Ultra Ego Cristiano.
Almost sure to finish 1st or second next year, where he could fight for 5th with us.
Be coached by the leader of the toothpaste, instead of a potential top, but still potential.
Competing for the CL, rather than competing for the Europa League.

Really don't know.

Unless we offer him 50% more wages than what Liverpool offers and something like 100M + Martial in loan, I don't know what we can do.
 
Chaky_Best said:
Strange to see why he wants to go to Liverpool instead of us...

Almost certain to be a starter, where he would have to compete with Ultra Ego Cristiano.
Almost sure to finish 1st or second next year, where he could fight for 5th with us.
Be coached by the leader of the toothpaste, instead of a potential top, but still potential.
Competing for the CL, rather than competing for the Europa League.

Really don't know.

Unless we offer him 50% more wages than what Liverpool offers and something like 100M + Martial in loan, I don't know what we can do.
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YNDA :p
 
Tony247 said:
When Mane joined Liverpool I saw him as just pace without end product. He was raw. And then Klopp made him ballon d'or contender player.

Darwin I see currently is far better version of Mane of that time. Klopp can turn him into even deadlier than Mane.
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Mane was visibly very, very good at Southampton. He was already a really polished player with solid end product.
 
Everyone is waiting for Barca to find some Euro so that they can buy Lewandowski. Then Bayern signs Mané and Liverpool this guy.
 
Tony247 said:
When Mane joined Liverpool I saw him as just pace without end product. He was raw. And then Klopp made him ballon d'or contender player.

Darwin I see currently is far better version of Mane of that time. Klopp can turn him into even deadlier than Mane.
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perfectly responded here
GlasgowCeltic said:
this is utter shite mate
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