Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player

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Or people can simply and sensibly acknowledge that Welbeck has scored two goals, the second of which was very impressive, and leave it at that. Too difficult for some, clearly.
So he plays good against poor opposition and people are talking about him replacing Henry? And no one thinks theres massive mis-step in logic there?
 
Correct. He's a good lad, a good player but will help them maintain their level rather than raise them to a new one. As he would have done for us. Both Arsenal and United need at the moment to be in the market for players that will bump us up a level.

Pretty much how I feel. If Arsenal are ever to challenge for the title they'll have to upgrade Welbeck, which is why I'm not that concerned but like to see him do well. He'll definitely score against us though, that day he's a bastard.

You are assuming he won't actually improve though and become better and better at this age. It's not like he's Victor Anichebe or something and not talented in terms of his technical and physical abilities.

It's a risk but can't be certain regarding him.
 
Playing up front he always going to score goals. Even for us his record was good when he played right up top. He has all the tools to be a top class striker, it's whether he can add that killer instinct to his game.
 
You are assuming he won't actually improve though and become better and better at this age. It's not like he's Victor Anichebe or something and not talented.
I don't think he'll significantly improve, not to ever become a sole goalscorer of title challenging quality.

I felt the same when he was here, I feel the same now.
 
Wish we'd just have sold Rooney last season. Could have kept Welbeck, Mata would play more and Januzaj would have a better chance of some game time.
 
I've nothing much to add to this that hasn't already been said, but the rush to discredit the opposition is laughable, nobody gives a shit about poor opposition when United players score.

Guarantee if Falcao scored into an empty net against Glossop in a cup game people would be *******.

I'm not happy to see him scoring for Arsenal but it's not at all surprising, he'll continue to do so and this thread will go round in the same, ever more boring, circles.
 
So he plays good against poor opposition and people are talking about him replacing Henry? And no one thinks theres massive mis-step in logic there?

And those people aren't very sensible. You're only going to read and interpret what you want to interpret. If you don't want to see the middle ground then there's not much else I can say. Good goals tonight from a good player, I don't understand why people feel the need to push an agenda either way.
 
I don't think he'll significantly improve, not to ever become a sole goalscorer of title challenging quality.

Dunno, he's good enough and confidence makes for consistency.

zup zup say nada.
 
Dunno, he's good enough and confidence makes for consistency.

zup zup say nada.
My opinion hasn't changed after a couple of months and a few games for Arsenal. I never thought he'd be good enough to lead the line for a Manchester United side hoping to challenge for the title, I feel the same now he's at Arsenal. If he proves me wrong then fair play to the lad, I just don't think he will.
 
Good god guys. It was the right thing to do for both sides. He now gets the chances he'd never have here and honestly I don't think he'll ever develop into a world class striker and that's what I want the first choice United striker to be. He didn't want to be a squad player and now could thrive at Arsenal, but ask yourself, would you've been happy with Welbeck as the leading striker this year? Me neither.
 
You are assuming he won't actually improve though and become better and better at this age. It's not like he's Victor Anichebe or something and not talented in terms of his technical and physical abilities.

It's a risk but can't be certain regarding him.

What he needs to improve on is his composure in front of goal and his instincts. I don't know do those attributes ever really become more pronounced in goalscorers as they get older. They can improve tactically, positionally with experience but Danny's pretty good in those areas already. Anyhow, as long as he's not hurting us, I wish him all the best.
 
My opinion hasn't changed after a couple of months and a few games for Arsenal. I never thought he'd be good enough to lead the line for a Manchester United side hoping to challenge for the title, I feel the same now he's at Arsenal. If he proves me wrong then fair play to the lad, I just don't think he will.

You're probably right.
 
So he plays good against poor opposition and people are talking about him replacing Henry? And no one thinks theres massive mis-step in logic there?

After last week, people compared him to Heskey.

He's scored 5 goals since leaving us. Yet people still look for excuses so they can call him shit. He won't hit his peak for another 3 or 4 years. How people cannot see he has massive potential is beyond me.
 
Very true.

My point being that this thread explodes with lament everytime he scores. He'll score quite a few, but he'll never fire 'em to a title, in my opinion.
RvP never fired them to a title either. Doesn't mean anything.
And yes, this thread will explode everytime he scores, the same way it will explode everytime he misses. If ppl don't like it they should stay out of it.
 
Selling them a very good player when they were down to Yaya fecking Sanogo as their first choice striker was like handing them a lifeline. Great for Danny, might not be so for us.
I get that, but what could we have done? Kept him against his will and let him play in the reserves?
We got rid of Welbeck and brought in Falcoa, I'd say we were the winners in this situation.
 
Very true.

My point being that this thread explodes with lament everytime he scores. He'll score quite a few, but he'll never fire 'em to a title, in my opinion.

A bit early to say, don't you think? Besides, even with Suarez as their striker I doubt they'd be contending for anything higher than 3rd or 4th spot.
 
A bit early to say, don't you think? Besides, even with Suarez as their striker I doubt they'd be contending for anything higher than 3rd or 4th spot.
Like I said above, my opinion on Danny Welbeck hasn't changed after he's moved to Arsenal. Didn't think he'd ever be good enough to lead the line for us if we were to challenge for the title, feel the same now he's at Arsenal. He'd have to do a lot more to prove me wrong.
 
What he needs to improve on is his composure in front of goal and his instincts. I don't know do those attributes ever really become more pronounced in goalscorers as they get older. They can improve tactically, positionally with experience but Danny's pretty good in those areas already. Anyhow, as long as he's not hurting us, I wish him all the best.

More chances and more confidence will help improve composure though not that much i agree but it's instincts he needs to improve more than composure as in doing the Cheech type movement in the box more so than finishing. If he adds it with experience like RVP did then he'll be more and more a goalscorer despite not being a clinical finisher.
 
I get that, but what could we have done? Kept him against his will and let him play in the reserves?
We got rid of Welbeck and brought in Falcoa, I'd say we were the winners in this situation.

It's a tough situation for the club to be in tbh so I won't blame us but it's a bit annoying nonetheless.
 
My opinion hasn't changed after a couple of months and a few games for Arsenal. I never thought he'd be good enough to lead the line for a Manchester United side hoping to challenge for the title, I feel the same now he's at Arsenal. If he proves me wrong then fair play to the lad, I just don't think he will.

Plenty of strikers have lead the line in title winning teams and got around the 15 goal mark. And especially now, when strikers are so much more than just goals, I think his overall ability will get overlooked too often.

He'll score enough goals for it and the other areas of his play should help others get more goals, and hopefully help to keep the opposition pinned back.
 
That's just silly if true.

Depends on the context. For example, saying he will go on to emulate Henry is, of course, nonsense. However, pointing out that Welbeck's body shape on certain shots is similar to that of Henry's, albeit clumsier, isn't all the silly. Welbeck grew up watching Henry and has probably been influenced by the way he played. They are also of very similar body composition.
 
RvP never fired them to a title either. Doesn't mean anything.
And yes, this thread will explode everytime he scores, the same way it will explode everytime he misses. If ppl don't like it they should stay out of it.

I think it does, though. In his last couple of seasons, when RVP was banging them in from all angles, they had other very defective areas in the team. Some would tell you that these have been addressed. Centre-forward was the glaring need in the last window, Danny was bought to address that. They were in the frame till the last third of the season last year. When they're splashing out on the likes of Ozil and Sanchez, they consider thenselves in the frame. In my opinion, there's more pressure on Danny than there was on Robin.
 
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