Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

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Slowly but surely becoming an increasingly dominant player both for us and England. At times he seems to be friggin' everywhere with those long legs of his. Great first half.
 
All around play was better than that of Hernandez, but due to him getting a goal and an assist you can't really rate him as good as Hernandez today.
I just want him to get a goal, to raise his confidence, because his overall play on and off the ball is fantastic, love the lad.

Why would that thought even cross someone's mind when Hernandez was playing up front alone and Welbeck playing on the wing?
 
Curious games from Welbeck, the guy must be the best defensive striker in the business; made more tackles than anyone else on our team. I noticed in his previous games this season, where he played out wide, he was essentially a defensive winger in those games. Lots of tackles and ball retention but little effective attacking threat.

We've turned him into Kuyt.
 
If there's people out there (which I think there is) who still question this guys ability and potential, surely they're slowly but surely being convinced with every performance?

He just oozes class. Everything he does seems so effortless. And you know what, not everything comes off, and there's still pieces of his game that need work on, but I tell you what, when it all comes together, he's going to be something very very special in my opinion.
 
Welbeck is living up to the promise he has showed for ten years to anyone prepared to notice it. He was floored by his 'all out' pace and the slight touch of Al Habsi's knee. It wasn't a dive. Today.
Martinez needs to stop sounding like his mentor Rafa. United didn't score from it but he's making out as if it changed the game. Beausejour's tackle on Nani in the first few minutes could have been a red yet he was not cautioned at all and Mini Rafa is talking about how they never get a fair deal from refs...
 
Why would that thought even cross someone's mind when Hernandez was playing up front alone and Welbeck playing on the wing?

Welbeck didn't play there till RVP came on.
 
How many legs does he have?

Every time he's running with the ball and a defender looks like they're going to take it off him, another one of his legs seems to come out of nowhere and scoop the ball away again, but then in doing so trips over another one of his legs, and he ends up slowly crumbling to the floor as every single player on the opposition team crowds around to try and hack the ball away from his maze of tangled limbs.
 
He just needs to convert more of his chances, his all round play is good but sometimes i feel he is not ruthless enough in front of goal, whether that will come with experience or not remains to be seen.
 
So much better centrally, don't want to see him on the wing again. Was fantastic yesterday and really deserved a goal in the first half.
 
How many legs does he have?

Every time he's running with the ball and a defender looks like they're going to take it off him, another one of his legs seems to come out of nowhere and scoop the ball away again, but then in doing so trips over another one of his legs, and he ends up slowly crumbling to the floor as every single player on the opposition team crowds around to try and hack the ball away from his maze of tangled limbs.

:lol:

On a more serious note, he's a good player but isn't clinical at all. He just finds some way to silly dally and lose the openings far too often. Understandable given his age.
 
Plays so much better when supported by someone on the same page as him while leading the line. He's just not a second-striker. He can hold the ball but it is more strength and determination not mazy dribbling and technical brilliance on the ball.

He's not a provider and he's not a clinical finisher but he is a strong lad for his age.
 
Andy Cole said he had a word with Welbeck and told him he needs to decide on what he wants to be. A goalscorer or a second striker. Because at the moment he's not clinical enough to be the main striker and his supply isn't good enough to be the secondary striker yet. (imo)
 
watching the game yesterday and looking at his touches and strength, he is going to be a freaking beast of a player in a couple of years time if he keeps doing what he's doing. Really excited for him he's an excellent player.
 
Welbeck is living up to the promise he has showed for ten years to anyone prepared to notice it. He was floored by his 'all out' pace and the slight touch of Al Habsi's knee. It wasn't a dive. Today.
Martinez needs to stop sounding like his mentor Rafa. United didn't score from it but he's making out as if it changed the game. Beausejour's tackle on Nani in the first few minutes could have been a red yet he was not cautioned at all and Mini Rafa is talking about how they never get a fair deal from refs...

It was a dive. There is no point trying to convince yourself otherwise. I dont blame him, i'd have done it too, but call a spade a spade
 
he's going to be something very very special in my opinion.

If Welbeck is going to be very very special, then what will Balotelli be?

Balo is more talented and shows it on the pitch. The main difference wass exemplified by yesterday, Welbeck gets a penalty for a dive while Balotelli gets told to get up after he's elbowed in the face.
 
I think he shows promise, but when people say wank like that I always have to cynical.



Keep in mind Heskey showed promise when he was Welbeck's age.
 
If Welbeck is going to be very very special, then what will Balotelli be?

Balo is more talented and shows it on the pitch. The main difference wass exemplified by yesterday, Welbeck gets a penalty for a dive while Balotelli gets told to get up after he's elbowed in the face.

Someone who could have been very special on the pitch but was a bit too special upstairs?
 
If Welbeck is going to be very very special, then what will Balotelli be?

Balo is more talented and shows it on the pitch. The main difference wass exemplified by yesterday, Welbeck gets a penalty for a dive while Balotelli gets told to get up after he's elbowed in the face.

Balotelli has the potential to be absolutely amazing. The only question is if he has his head skrewed on straight. I enjoy his antics either way! :lol:

Our fans (including me) will probably prefer Welbeck simply because he is home grown, and also has the potential to be very good. I'd rather have him even if Balotelli is better for that reason, and Balotelli's craziness.
 
Andy Cole said he had a word with Welbeck and told him he needs to decide on what he wants to be. A goalscorer or a second striker. Because at the moment he's not clinical enough to be the main striker and his supply isn't good enough to be the secondary striker yet. (imo)

I agree with that. He takes some lovely touches but I don't think he's going to super creative because he doesn't have that good an eye for a pass and setting up a team mate. So keeping that in mind, he has to work on his finishing more and become a better goalscorer IMO.
 
It was a dive. There is no point trying to convince yourself otherwise. I dont blame him, i'd have done it too, but call a spade a spade


Thing is it wasn't a dive. I thought it was at first and even thought justice had been done with the missed pen. But I watched goals on Sunday, they showed the contact and they were convinced it was a Pen (even if he did go down easy)
 
If Welbeck is going to be very very special, then what will Balotelli be?


Why even bring up Balotelli? Nobody was talking about Balotelli or saying he wasn't a good player. Not like the post you quoted said "Welbeck will be a special player, unlike Balotelli" or "Welbeck will be the only special player in the world"


Balotelli probably is and will be the better player of the two. As will a lot of players I'm sure. This is the Welbeck thread though.
 
Look. The short story is it's too early to say what either of these players will be. It's fecking stupid to say "Welbeck is going to be really, really special" he needs to work on his finishing and to lose that gangliness to his game. Balotelli similarly can't be written off, he needs to work on his on field temperament and his work ratio.
 
Thing is it wasn't a dive. I thought it was at first and even thought justice had been done with the missed pen. But I watched goals on Sunday, they showed the contact and they were convinced it was a Pen (even if he did go down easy)

What does going down easily mean?

Never a penalty. I'm glad it wasn't a contributing factor in our win.
 
It's jargin for those who don't have the stones to say he dived.
 
Why even bring up Balotelli? Nobody was talking about Balotelli or saying he wasn't a good player. Not like the post you quoted said "Welbeck will be a special player, unlike Balotelli" or "Welbeck will be the only special player in the world"


Balotelli probably is and will be the better player of the two. As will a lot of players I'm sure. This is the Welbeck thread though.

Because for Welbeck to be a 'very very special' player he'll need to out shine his peers. Balotelli is the most obvious peer (3 months older, same position, same league etc), and Welbeck is clearly behind Balotelli in terms of on the pitch performances.

Welbeck will probably go on to be a good player like Michael Carrick, a first team player. But he's not going to be 'very very special', imo that's reserved for the likes of Rooney, Toure, RVP etc.
 
If Welbeck is going to be very very special, then what will Balotelli be?

Balo is more talented and shows it on the pitch. The main difference wass exemplified by yesterday, Welbeck gets a penalty for a dive while Balotelli gets told to get up after he's elbowed in the face.

What has that post got to do with anything? What has Balotelli got to do with Danny Welbeck? :lol:

Very strange post. Reeks of an inferiority complex. Who'd of thunk it eh? :smirk:
 
Because for Welbeck to be a 'very very special' player he'll need to out shine his peers. Balotelli is the most obvious peer (3 months older, same position, same league etc), and Welbeck is clearly behind Balotelli in terms of on the pitch performances.

Welbeck will probably go on to be a good player like Michael Carrick, a first team player. But he's not going to be 'very very special', imo that's reserved for the likes of Rooney, Toure, RVP etc.

Spot on.
 
Because for Welbeck to be a 'very very special' player he'll need to out shine his peers. Balotelli is the most obvious peer (3 months older, same position, same league etc), and Welbeck is clearly behind Balotelli in terms of on the pitch performances.

Welbeck will probably go on to be a good player like Michael Carrick, a first team player. But he's not going to be 'very very special', imo that's reserved for the likes of Rooney, Toure, RVP etc.

Players develop at totally different levels to each other. Case in point, Rooney was a very early developer, RVP much latter.

If you watch Welbeck consistently, which I doubt you do, you'd see he has all the ability and potential to be a world class player, he just needs to put it all together. Something that will come with maturity and playing games. In a few years, he's going to be a beast of a player. Just you see.
 
What kind of striker do you think he'll be so?
 
I think he'll end up playing right up top. He's got the skill set, the pace, and the strength. And according to Fergie, he's still growing. He actually reminds me very much of Saha. His finishing is an issue, of course. But I think that'll come in time. He's got the ability, but just lacks that composure. But I fully expect him, as he gets older, plays more, and matures, to overcome that.
 
Players develop at totally different levels to each other. Case in point, Rooney was a very early developer, RVP much latter.

If you watch Welbeck consistently, which I doubt you do, you'd see he has all the ability and potential to be a world class player, he just needs to put it all together. Something that will come with maturity and playing games. In a few years, he's going to be a beast of a player. Just you see.

Sorry I just don't see how Welbeck has the potential to become a world class player. Maybe one day he just going to somehow make it, like the way other players with less potential did before him (ie Lampard). But not from the way he is playing now. There are lot other better forwards in similar age who have far better chances I'd say.
 
Here's my break down on Welbeck from what I've seen, not what I expect


Link up play: Good
Ability to hold up the ball: Good
Finishing: Poor
Pace: Average
Strength: Average
Heading: Good
Ability to score in big games: Arsenal (x.2), Sweden (I guess?)
 
Here's my break down on Welbeck from what I've seen, not what I expect


Link up play: Good
Ability to hold up the ball: Good
Finishing: Poor
Pace: Average
Strength: Average
Heading: Good
Ability to score in big games: Arsenal (x.2), Sweden (I guess?)

Touch: Mediocre. One minute he brings it down like Ibrahimovic next minute it bounces off him like Heskey.
 
Oh god that reminds me, remember when people were saying his goal at Euro 2012 was better, technique wise, than Ibra's? :lol:
 
Oh god that reminds me, remember when people were saying his goal at Euro 2012 was better, technique wise, than Ibra's? :lol:

Did people actually say that? :wenger:

He still has a long way to go for me. I don't trust him infront of goal at all, he's one of the most wasteful strikers in the league.
 
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