Danny Ings | Signs for Liverpool (lol)

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Yeah as other's have said, he's be a decent 3rd choice striker. Not sure I'd have him as second choice though,, in case of injury to Rooney.
 
That has to be one of the most underwhelming "high-lights and skills" videos i've ever seen. Do not want.

What? The video shows him scoring good goals in the PL. What did you want a load of rabonas, but no proof of end product?
 
So lets say Rooney got injured around February for a month or two? You think Danny Ings will be good as a lone striker for a team challenging for the PL and CL? Seems a bit far fetched.
So let's say Lewandowski gets injured tomorrow? Do you think Pizarro will be good enough to lead the charge for the CL? Or better still if Benzema got injured for Madrid, maybe our reject Hernandez will be good enough to lead their line? We can plan for as much as we like but sometimes an injury is gonna ruin your season simple as. Especially in a position where one player is going to start, you can't have a world class talent warming the bench week in week out which is pretty much the same reason most teams don't have two world class keepers.
 
So let's say Lewandowski gets injured tomorrow? Do you think Pizarro will be good enough to lead the charge for the CL? Or better still if Benzema got injured for Madrid, maybe our reject Hernandez will be good enough to lead their line? We can plan for as much as we like but sometimes an injury is gonna ruin your season simple as. Especially in a position where one player is going to start, you can't have a world class talent warming the bench week in week out which is pretty much the same reason most teams don't have two world class keepers.

I knew this would eventually get brought up, the big difference is the huge goal threat Bayern and Real posses from the flanks, you can have a mediocre hold up #9 when you have that kind of threat from wide.
 
I like him, he's a good player. I would not be disappointed in the slightest if we signed him, I'd rather the club spend money in other areas rather than on a world class striker such as Cavani.
 
So let's say Lewandowski gets injured tomorrow? Do you think Pizarro will be good enough to lead the charge for the CL? Or better still if Benzema got injured for Madrid, maybe our reject Hernandez will be good enough to lead their line? We can plan for as much as we like but sometimes an injury is gonna ruin your season simple as. Especially in a position where one player is going to start, you can't have a world class talent warming the bench week in week out which is pretty much the same reason most teams don't have two world class keepers.

Munich want to replace Pizarro with a better player in the summer, who is less injured. They can also play Müller and Götze there. Also they have enough of a goal threat from wide. Madrid went 4-4-2 with Ronaldo and Bale up top, when Benzema wasn't playing with Jese as back-up. How does that compare to us signing Danny Ings?
 
Munich want to replace Pizarro with a better player in the summer, who is less injured. They can also play Müller and Götze there. Also they have enough of a goal threat from wide. Madrid went 4-4-2 with Ronaldo and Bale up top, when Benzema wasn't playing with Jese as back-up. How does that compare to us signing Danny Ings?
The answer is in your post. Their alternatives will still get games and be starters when they're not playing forward which is my point. It is not viable to buy an alternative to Rooney who is a ready made finished article to warm the bench unless he can play in other positions.
 
I knew this would eventually get brought up, the big difference is the huge goal threat Bayern and Real posses from the flanks, you can have a mediocre hold up #9 when you have that kind of threat from wide.
Exactly! so we should focus on having goal threat from other positions. Having a world class player as a second option rarely if ever works.
 
Munich want to replace Pizarro with a better player in the summer, who is less injured. They can also play Müller and Götze there. Also they have enough of a goal threat from wide. Madrid went 4-4-2 with Ronaldo and Bale up top, when Benzema wasn't playing with Jese as back-up. How does that compare to us signing Danny Ings?

Because we still have the likes of Mata, Rooney, Di Maria and potentially a player like Memphis Depay to share the goalscoring load. That's without mentioning the goals that Herrera, Fellaini and the likely central midfielder we buy in the summer will chip in with.

United supporters are conditioned to having four quality strikers. Top teams in Europe seldom boast three, never mind four. We're getting dragged into the 21st century by Van Gaal, and while I wouldn't necessarily want to rely on Ings in a second choice capacity, he really could be a canny addition to the squad.

Buying star strikers to sit on the bench while we play a 433 would be an obscene way to spend our money. I'm not saying that you're necessarily suggesting that, by the way.
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see something like this next year: Rooney, van Persie, Ings, Wilson.

I know that will disappoint some but I wouldn't be too bothered, as long as we invest well in other areas.

Wilson could possibly go out on loan too.
 
Exactly! so we should focus on having goal threat from other positions. Having a world class player as a second option rarely if ever works.

We should buy a player who can play wide and as a striker who is top drawer, not waste money on a player like Ings, we might as well just give Wilson his games or let RvP see out his year as the back-up 9.
 
We should buy a player who can play wide and as a striker who is top drawer, not waste money on a player like Ings, we might as well just give Wilson his games or let RvP see out his year as the back-up 9.
That I can't disagree with. I thought you meant that we need to buy a Cavani or something like that which is my bad.
 
Wouldn't mind, just got to trust LvG and the scouts.

At just 22, Ings can only get better.
 
The answer is in your post. Their alternatives will still get games and be starters when they're not playing forward which is my point. It is not viable to buy an alternative to Rooney who is a ready made finished article to warm the bench unless he can play in other positions.

Which basically means we shouldn't buy Ings, since he's a limited player to say the least compared to what Munich and Madrid have to offer.

Because we still have the likes of Mata, Rooney, Di Maria and potentially a player like Memphis Depay to share the goalscoring load. That's without mentioning the goals that Herrera, Fellaini and the likely central midfielder we buy in the summer will chip in with.

United supporters are conditioned to having four quality strikers. Top teams in Europe seldom boast three, never mind four. We're getting dragged into the 21st century by Van Gaal, and while I wouldn't necessarily want to rely on Ings in a second choice capacity, he really could be a canny addition to the squad.

Buying star strikers to sit on the bench while we play a 433 would be an obscene way to spend our money. I'm not saying that you're necessarily suggesting that, by the way.

Which is one of my points. I'd rather buy no striker than Danny fecking Ings. I'd rather get Memphis and someone like Felipe Anderson or Firmino in. They are all significantly more talented, would offer us even more from wide, Firmino could also play as a striker and if need be, I'd just play Fellaini up top. Basically, I just don't see the need for Ings. If we buy a striker then it should be quality, either a talented player who can challenge for Rooney's spot in a few years or someone like van Persie a few years ago. Ings is neither.
 
The day after we smash City and anything Utd related is a guaranteed click, the world's foremost clickbait newspaper starts a rumour out of nowhere

Chinny reckon.
 
He's only thirty-one like. Not that old.

He is an impact player, he isn't your regular striker who just scores goals - he does a whole lot more for a team.... at least he used to, now his movements seem off, he isn't the same player he was 2 seasons ago and with his injury problems i don't think he has much to offer as a backup, what happens when Rooney gets injured and his backup (RVP) is injured as well? and we have a CL game coming up?

EPL champions.
Chelsea (2010) - Drogba,Sturridge,Anelka,Kalou.
United(2011) - Rooney,Owen,Hernandez,Berbatov.
City(2012) - Aguero,Dzeko,Tevez,Balotelli.
United(2013) - RVP,Rooney,Welbeck,Hernandez.
City(2014) - Aguero,Dzeko,Jovetic,Negredo.
Chelsea(2015) - Costa,Drogba,Remy.

An aging,Injury Prone striker and a teenager (who is lacking in the experience department) aren't exactly the ideal back-up strikers for a team looking to contend for 4 trophies next season, besides Rooney only turns up every other game.
 
I like Ings to be honest. I think there is a pretty good player there and when I've seen him I've been impressed. But he needs to improve his finishing. For a small fee, young English striker who would be a back up, I see no problem.
 
He is an impact player, he isn't your regular striker who just scores goals - he does a whole lot more for a team.... at least he used to, now his movements seem off, he isn't the same player he was 2 seasons ago and with his injury problems i don't think he has much to offer as a backup, what happens when Rooney gets injured and his backup (RVP) is injured as well? and we have a CL game coming up?

EPL champions.
Chelsea (2010) - Drogba,Sturridge,Anelka,Kalou.
United(2011) - Rooney,Owen,Hernandez,Berbatov.
City(2012) - Aguero,Dzeko,Tevez,Balotelli.
United(2013) - RVP,Rooney,Welbeck,Hernandez.
City(2014) - Aguero,Dzeko,Jovetic,Negredo.
Chelsea(2015) - Costa,Drogba,Remy.

An aging,Injury Prone striker and a teenager (who is lacking in the experience department) aren't exactly the ideal back-up strikers for a team looking to contend for 4 trophies next season, besides Rooney only turns up every other game.

City and us played with 2 strikers.We're going to play with only 1 striker next season.
 
Homegrown, young, on a free...not much to loose. Good 3rd choice but who's no2?

Wilson looks set for a loan.
 
I think he's clearly more talented than someone like Olic, Ings is actually well rounded. Decent speed, technique, teamplay, can score some goals. Its just that his potential to play in the first team doesn't look high. If he played every week would he get 15 goals a season? He's never going to play every week anyway
 
Reminds me of Ivica Olic....who I think LVG signed at Bayern?

If Ings scores the decisive goal that knocks the favourites out of the Champions League like Olic then his wages will be forever justified.
 
Olic's pace made him a good presser in a way I'm not sure Ings can be.

Ings is pretty quick is he not? I've only seen bits of him but he really put me in mind of Olic - quite an aggressive runner if that makes sense.
 
I just hope this is a dreadful misinterpretation for Van Gaal asking for some Wings.
 
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So I talk about Olic in the Cavani thread, and now everyone do ? Pfff.
 
Decent signing if true. I've been impressed with what I've seen of him.

He's aggressive, works hard, and still quote young. It'd be nice to see us taking a punt on a young English player.

And if it doesn't work out he'd be relatively easy to move on.
 
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