They're bringing in dross just like last summer. At least this time they're not splashing 8 figure sums on it. It's progress.
Danny Ings | Signs for Liverpool (lol)
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Midtable club brings in a midtable-caliber squad player. Par, as Brendan would say.
Agreed - though Milner will likely have cost them a pretty big signing-on fee, it's still good value (there's that dreaded word again). With the Europa league next season then I guess building the squad is as much of a priority, but they have still to make a signing for decent money, so they'd be happy enough with this start to the window I'd think.
If comparing is what you want to do, then this conversation will go on and on and on a different tangent.
Solely from a point of view of what you guys already have, Ings would be a decent back-up. Sturridge needs to stay fit and there is a need for another good striker.
It depends on who else we sign.
We weren't exactly getting any benefit from having Borini, Lambert and Balotelli and we are hopefully going to sell those 3 to add to the transfer kitty.
Milner and Ings are good signings for little money. We can only judge the rest at the end of the window.
Rodgers cannot afford any expensive flops otherwise he will be following Pascoe out of the door.
Gotcha buddy! No harm done
Easier said than done. Who would pay a penny for them after the season they've had?
Rodgers can't afford to sign any more bargain bin dross either. You hardly signed anyone expensive last summer. You basically did exactly what you seem to be doing now in the market.
Because no matter how success hungry he is, he's also bang average.
I think Lambert should be able to find another club, someone like Villa. He nearly went in January after all.
Couple of Italian clubs apparently interested in Borini, still can't believe he didn't go to Sunderland when they offered over £10m for him!!
Balotelli - who knows!
Think he is improvement on Lolloltelli,then again think Beranino is more their type of player.
As per me Berahino is slightly better than Ings, but then again his attitude problem is something Pool would want to avoid.
Unlike Falcao, proven world class player who really set world on fire with his brilliant United displays.
What's Falcao got to do with it?
I mean, he was a risk that failed massively, as Ings likely will be. I guess that.
Absolutely bizarre that you would bring Falcao into this. Why not compare him to our signing of Alan Smith, I can imagine he will have a similar kind of impact.
Literally what does that have to do with anything? A proven World Class player had a terrible season, so therefore Ings is a good purchase?
He's a good signing. A good back up for sturridge if they can keep him fit and more potential to improve than Lambert. I actually reckon in his own right he could become a Defoe level player, 15 goals a season or something similar.
At the end of the day they can't attract the best so have to take gambles like this and as a Liverpool fan I'd be happy with their business so far
At the end of the day they can't attract the best so have to take gambles like this and as a Liverpool fan I'd be happy with their business so far
I've taken Falcao example just to show that sometimes not even world class player can bring you what you've expected from him, so don't see point in labelling Ings as failure or bang average before he even kicked the ball for Liverpool.
We have world class winger that is Di Maria who can't get games and Ashley Young who's 2 trick pony that in proper set up really flourishes for United.
Ings can be really bad singing but no one can know that before he even played for Liverpool yet people here are so quick to jump to conclusions like they've signed player who never play football before.
You do realise the point of forums is for people to have opinions. They don't have to always be good opinions, excluding RAWK.
Exactly what I was going to say. In 12 months Liverpool have bought Lambert, Balotelli, Origi & Ings and they still need a first choice striker. Is he an upgrade on Lambert? Probably. However Lambert isn't the reason Liverpool finished 6th. They finished 6th because they didn't have a top class striker available for the 6 months Sturridge was injured.
Liverpool seem to be continuing their mantra of improving the squad but not improving their first team, which as a United fan is good to hear. Going into next season with Milner, Ings and Origi instead of Lambert, Gerrard and Balotelli is pretty similar, certainly not a big improvement.
Before the start of the season Liverpool need a minimum of a Goalkeeper, a RB, a DM and a striker to fit straight into their first XI (and probably a forward player if Sterling leaves). They still need those 4-5 players despite signing Milner/Ings.
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@Black Adder people can have an opinion on Ings after, y'know, watching him for at least a season. I know it's become somewhat a hipster thing to rate players who don't look top level, after a semi-decent season.
Look, for me, Ings is no better than Borini. Ok, he's better than Lambert and as I said, will be a better fit than Balotelli. They have merely added another player to the squad as opposed to strengthening it. Ings had some good games last season, but his form was patchy and he doesn't look like a player that a club chasing CL football should be signing. It's all well and good saying he's relatively young and the fee isn't that high; but so what? Should all big clubs sign players that are low risk because, well, there's a low risk involved? Liverpool need, badly need, quality over quantity.
Since Suarez left and Sturridge became perpetually broken, Liverpool have struggled for goals. Given that Sturridge is still wholly unrealisable fitness wise, are Origi, Borini and Ings really good enough to lead the line? I seriously doubt it. What they needed was a striker several levels above Ings.
It's become somewhat en vogue to counter any negative opinions on lesser players with drivel like "you can't write him off / not rate him just because he played for a lesser club". Well, just like a player at any club, big or small, people are entitled to have opinions on said player, both positive or negative. It doesn't make you or anyone else a better / more observant fan, because you choose to rate a player like Ings.
Look, for me, Ings is no better than Borini. Ok, he's better than Lambert and as I said, will be a better fit than Balotelli. They have merely added another player to the squad as opposed to strengthening it. Ings had some good games last season, but his form was patchy and he doesn't look like a player that a club chasing CL football should be signing. It's all well and good saying he's relatively young and the fee isn't that high; but so what? Should all big clubs sign players that are low risk because, well, there's a low risk involved? Liverpool need, badly need, quality over quantity.
Since Suarez left and Sturridge became perpetually broken, Liverpool have struggled for goals. Given that Sturridge is still wholly unrealisable fitness wise, are Origi, Borini and Ings really good enough to lead the line? I seriously doubt it. What they needed was a striker several levels above Ings.
It's become somewhat en vogue to counter any negative opinions on lesser players with drivel like "you can't write him off / not rate him just because he played for a lesser club". Well, just like a player at any club, big or small, people are entitled to have opinions on said player, both positive or negative. It doesn't make you or anyone else a better / more observant fan, because you choose to rate a player like Ings.
Where did I say it's wrong to have different opinions?
Just don't see how you can know if some player is gonna flop or not before he even kicks ball for the new club, if football was that simple there wouldn't be any flops ever, just buy "big" name and you're set for success.
Lolz
Snubbed by Milner and Ings within the space of a week. The Depay signing seems so long ago.
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Knowing them they will sign two more strikers
They need a player of Suarez's calibre but they obviously won't be able to attract one.
I don't know if I can say this here , but I kind of feel sorry for them..
But I am quite sure when the season starts it won't be for long..
But I am quite sure when the season starts it won't be for long..
Both him and Milner are solid signings, but hardly the calibre of player capable of bridging the gap between themselves and the top four. It's shrewd business, particularly bringing in Milner, but you aren't going to feel threatened or concerned if you're a top four club.
It would be okay if they are merely squad additions and Liverpool intend to bring in other players a tier or two above Milner and Ings, but I doubt they actually will. Like someone else said, the best striker available they can probably lure to the club is Berahino and it's not as if there's a massive disparity between him and Ings.
It would be okay if they are merely squad additions and Liverpool intend to bring in other players a tier or two above Milner and Ings, but I doubt they actually will. Like someone else said, the best striker available they can probably lure to the club is Berahino and it's not as if there's a massive disparity between him and Ings.
Not sure about the lol.
Two very solid and sensible signings by the scousers so far. Quite unlike them I must say
Two very solid and sensible signings by the scousers so far. Quite unlike them I must say
If he is their first choice, I dont think it is the wisest move.
If it is to replace Lambert or Borini in the squad, then it really isnt a bad signing at all..
Young and will probably get a little better playing at a better club.
If it is to replace Lambert or Borini in the squad, then it really isnt a bad signing at all..
Young and will probably get a little better playing at a better club.
Why would I want to make myself better or more observant fan?
You think I rate Ings just because I don't see him as flop before he even played single match for Liverpool?
Only thing I wanted is to point out that you can't know what to expect when buying players, sometimes lesser players turn out as better piece of buissness than so called big name players.
I do hope he flops badly, like I want for any other Liverpool player, but to see that he must play for Liverpool, can't labell him flop before I even saw him kick the ball for them.
But who is saying he will be a complete flop? It's obviously about context. Ings looks a solid, hardworking player but as many have alluded to, Liverpool need better. It smacks of our signing of Alan Smith which ultimately didn't work out. I think George Boyd had a very good season for Burnley; would I want him at United? Obviously not. You see, context plays a major part here. There's a difference between people saying Ings is complete shit and people having an opinion on him and saying he isn't good enough for Liverpool. Surely you can see the massive difference there.
Dont worry, he is already better than Shearer, Owen, Rush, Beirhoff, Maradonna, Totti and Henry.
Theres only Messi and Ronaldo better, possibly Suarez.
There are actually people on RAWK celebrating because Ings "Turned down United" in order to sign for them. Boy, they sure showed us for knicking Depay out from under their noses.
Probably true but it's only June.
There are actually people on RAWK celebrating because Ings "Turned down United" in order to sign for them. Boy, they sure showed us for knicking Depay out from under their noses.
Moneyball signings so far. Keep John Henry happy.
There are actually people on RAWK celebrating because Ings "Turned down United" in order to sign for them. Boy, they sure showed us for knicking Depay out from under their noses.
I honestly cant remember a single source even suggesting we even knew who he was let alone were interested.
Anyone got any links?
If you just type in Ings Manchester United , there are loads of supposed links, whether they are true who knows.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/582943/Liverpool-transfer-news-Danny-Ings-deal-agreed
CONFIRMED: Liverpool AGREE deal to sign Man United target Danny Ings
There are actually people on RAWK celebrating because Ings "Turned down United" in order to sign for them. Boy, they sure showed us for knicking Depay out from under their noses.
Scunthorpe United i think they meant.
One of my scouse gloryhunter friends (the ones born in the 80s who picked the wrong team and have been kicking themselves ever since) just posted 'watch out Chelsea' on his FB account
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