Daniele De Rossi

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La Manchester degli sceicchi mette sul piatto 9 milioni di euro l'anno per il centrocampista. Alla Roma ne andrebbero 35.

City's offering 35 million Euros to Roma, and 9 million a year to DDD..
 
I sure hope he doesn't go there. He'd be perfect for them. He signed a new 5 year deal in Febuary so I hope this is all media ball-locks.
 
ghaliboy said:
Is he really 'world class' though?..
(not going to dispute it but I dunno i'm not convinced)

I thought he was a bit ordinary at the Euro and he has a bit of a mean streak in him that would be intersting if he was given a free licence.

Still think he's a cnut for dropping an elbow onto McBride's head in 06.
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He was the second best player for the Euro finalists, he can't have been that bad?
 
De Rossi to City is a bit like Hulk to Chelsea. Seems to get rumored in every damn transfer window. Lets hope City doesn't sign him.
 
He's also jus a top feckign notch midfielder. Keane was known to stick it to someone if he thought it was needed. Smashed Haaland, came close to deckin Makalele, almost got shearer, put out a campfire on Gareth Southgates chest !!!

The point I'm makin is there's no harm in a bit of bite being in a player, he makes the job of a defensive midfielder just look very effortless with his positioning and reading of the game.

I'd vomit if they got their hands on him. If they were to actually make some headway in a deal I'd demand we want after him. We would be idiots not to.
 
Over rated in my opinion. He's a top class player, don't get me wrong, but I just don't think he is as good as everyone thinks he is. He's talked about in the upper echelons of midfielders but I think he's a level below. Personally I rate Carrick higher as he's more refined.

De Rossi is one of those players whose qualities are "obvious" for lack of a better word and his physicality and effort mask the slight deficiencies in other areas. His passing for example and movement off the ball let him down at times. Improve on those and you have a player in the Alonso mould who just has that bit extra in his game that take him up a level.

Playing as the big fish in a small pond at Roma has increased people's opinions of him, his defensive qualities have always been at the fore front in the big games and he comes out of them looking good. For Italy he had a craftsmen alongside him in Pirlo and a genius ahead of him in Del Piero and as a result his lack of creativity were never exposed.


I'm rating him harshly here because I'm comparing him against the best which is who people put him alongside so I should probably make it clear that I'm not calling him an average footballer. I just don't feel he's anywhere near the top bracket. Take the United - Roma drubbing, he scored a fantastic goal which is what he is remembered for rather than being anonymous against a midfield of Fletcher and Carrick, two footballer people would never insist to being in the upper echelon of midfielders and an attack of Smith and a 21 year old Rooney.

Just my 2 cents.

He's better than De Jong and Milner though of course.
 
Colin129 said:
Lucas money, lets buy him ourselves!

Would he fit in at United btw?
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From what I've seen of him he would fit in at United. He'd probably be able to do what Carrick does, only offer improvement as he's a better player than Carrick. City may get him though and he'd work absolutely perfectly for them. Just what they need to complete their midfield. Barry and De Jong are both respectable players but with their money they know they're capable of getting better.
 
Cheesy said:
From what I've seen of him he would fit in at United. He'd probably be able to do what Carrick does, only offer improvement as he's a better player than Carrick. City may get him though and he'd work absolutely perfectly for them. Just what they need to complete their midfield. Barry and De Jong are both respectable players but with their money they know they're capable of getting better.
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He is not better than Carrick, he's harder and has a stronger, more commanding personality but his positional play and passing aren't on the same level as Carricks. He'd not offer the same support for us as Carrick does and he can't move play around as intuitively either.
 
Regarding DDR
Roma's Daniele de Rossi and Daniel Agger are not now destined for City, according to the manager: "No I don't think so, it's difficult."

Ofcourse he could be bluffing.

Oh and he's better than Carrick.
 
Pexbo said:
He is not better than Carrick, he's harder and has a stronger, more commanding personality but his positional play and passing aren't on the same level as Carricks. He'd not offer the same support for us as Carrick does and he can't move play around as intuitively either.
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He is better than Carrick, comfortably. I wouldn't spend €35m to replace Carrick with him though.
 
KanieKaned said:
He's also jus a top feckign notch midfielder. Keane was known to stick it to someone if he thought it was needed. Smashed Haaland, came close to deckin Makalele, almost got shearer, put out a campfire on Gareth Southgates chest !!!

The point I'm makin is there's no harm in a bit of bite being in a player, he makes the job of a defensive midfielder just look very effortless with his positioning and reading of the game.

I'd vomit if they got their hands on him. If they were to actually make some headway in a deal I'd demand we want after him. We would be idiots not to.
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:lol:
 
Pexbo said:
Over rated in my opinion. He's a top class player, don't get me wrong, but I just don't think he is as good as everyone thinks he is. He's talked about in the upper echelons of midfielders but I think he's a level below. Personally I rate Carrick higher as he's more refined.

De Rossi is one of those players whose qualities are "obvious" for lack of a better word and his physicality and effort mask the slight deficiencies in other areas. His passing for example and movement off the ball let him down at times. Improve on those and you have a player in the Alonso mould who just has that bit extra in his game that take him up a level.

Playing as the big fish in a small pond at Roma has increased people's opinions of him, his defensive qualities have always been at the fore front in the big games and he comes out of them looking good. For Italy he had a craftsmen alongside him in Pirlo and a genius ahead of him in Del Piero and as a result his lack of creativity were never exposed.


I'm rating him harshly here because I'm comparing him against the best which is who people put him alongside so I should probably make it clear that I'm not calling him an average footballer. I just don't feel he's anywhere near the top bracket. Take the United - Roma drubbing, he scored a fantastic goal which is what he is remembered for rather than being anonymous against a midfield of Fletcher and Carrick, two footballer people would never insist to being in the upper echelon of midfielders and an attack of Smith and a 21 year old Rooney.

Just my 2 cents.

He's better than De Jong and Milner though of course.
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He's a great player, for Roma and Italy
 
I think that if City sign him then they team would be as strong as Real, Barca and Bayern. and I think that he is comfortably better than Carrick though 35M for a 29 years old player seems too much.
 
Ismail Elezi said:
I think that if City sign him then they team would be as strong as Real, Barca and Bayern. and I think that he is comfortably better than Carrick though 35M for a 29 years old player seems too much.
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It's roughly £27m - so only £3m more than RVP.
 
I'm concerned because it means they will be better in Europe and have a genuinely great player in CM apart from Toure. Agger or another quality CB and their side is as 'complete' as any unfortunately.
 
Pexbo said:
He is not better than Carrick, he's harder and has a stronger, more commanding personality but his positional play and passing aren't on the same level as Carricks. He'd not offer the same support for us as Carrick does and he can't move play around as intuitively either.
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Personally I'd swap Carrick for De Rossi in a heartbeat, despite what you say he is an excellent user of the ball. I think outside of this forum the general consensus would be that De Rossi is the superior midfielder.
 
Homeomorphic said:
If true they'll be very hard to break down. Yaya-De Rossi-De Jong with Kompany at the back + Agüero and Tevez harassing from upfront will physically steamroll anyone. Wouldn't want to face that in the Champions League next season.
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De Jong wont get anywhere near the first-team if De Rossi comes in, he's essentially being replaced.
 
evra said:
Personally I'd swap Carrick for De Rossi in a heartbeat, despite what you say he is an excellent user of the ball. I think outside of this forum the general consensus would be that De Rossi is the superior midfielder.
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Funny thing is, pretty much every single time they've gone up against each other Carrick has been noticeably superior. It's not exactly been a one off either.
 
Chabon said:
Funny thing is, pretty much every single time they've gone up against each other Carrick has been noticeably superior. It's not exactly been a one off either.
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Funny thing is, United are much more superior than Roma too. Hardly surprising
 
We're a better team, of course, but it doesn't quite account for the fact that whenever he's played against us De Rossi has been largely anonymous, whilst Carrick has shone more than against any other opponent. De Rossi is a very good player, no doubt, but I bet Carrick would be regarded just as highly if he played in Italy, if not moreso, considering his performances against Italian clubs over the years.
 
AttackingFlair said:
I'm concerned because it means they will be better in Europe and have a genuinely great player in CM apart from Toure. Agger or another quality CB and their side is as 'complete' as any unfortunately.
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No they won't. He's not better than what they have already.
 
pocco said:
That's because De Rossi is a other player that is overrated on here. He's not the force that some are making out.
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People make out he's Roy Keane, or Makelele when he is in fact a Joey Barton. Gattuso was a far better player.
 
Daniele De Rossi is reportedly not convinced by the idea of leaving Roma despite Manchester City finally making a bid for his services.

After a summer of negotiations and speculation, City made a £35m offer to Roma for their inspirational midfielder on Friday evening – a fee that the club will probably deem acceptable.

However, De Rossi isn’t necessarily keen to leave his boyhood club for pastures new in England despite wages worth £6m per season, according to Sportmediaset and Tuttosport.

His agent Sergio Berti met City officials earlier in the week but, contrary to reports in the English press, he was discussing his other client Aleksandar Kolarov, the City full-back.

Whether the subject of De Rossi was also discussed is unknown, but the English champions have finally firmed up their interest with a concrete bid.

The Italian international’s future could be decided by whether Roma choose to accept City’s enormous offer and face the inevitable fan backlash that De Rossi’s sale would provoke.
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Chabon said:
Funny thing is, pretty much every single time they've gone up against each other Carrick has been noticeably superior. It's not exactly been a one off either.
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Exactly, Carrick's best games usually come against him. In head to head it's obvious who is the superior player.
 
kouroux said:
Would Joey Barton start for Italy ?
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As they are the same in quality then yes. Put quality players around Joey Bartn and give him the task of tackling people and being purely defensive and voila Joey DeRossi.
 
gambit28 said:
As they are the same in quality then yes. Put quality players around Joey Bartn and give him the task of tackling people and being purely defensive and voila Joey DeRossi.
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What a lot of nonsense. Sounds like your describing Gattuso or Lee Cattermole
 
You never know with Mancini, but it sounds like he's giving up on De Rossi (among others).

"We talked about Martinez," Mancini said. "But it is a situation that is not easy because there are top clubs who want Martinez. De Rossi is difficult because he is a Roma. Agger? I don't think so."
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gambit28 said:
As they are the same in quality then yes. Put quality players around Joey Bartn and give him the task of tackling people and being purely defensive and voila Joey DeRossi.
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That's absolute nonsense. There's a player being enhanced by the players around him and then there's just crap players like Barton, who would be nowhere near the Italian first team. If it was the Spain midfield then you would arguably have a case, but you're making the Italian midfield out to be a lot better than it is. It's good, but it wouldn't be capable of making De Rossi a good player if he was crap, because he isn't and it's ridiculous to think he is. Thinking he's overrated is a perfectly acceptable opinion, but he's clearly not a crap player.

He's a lot better on the ball than people are giving him credit for, especially for a defensive mid. His defensive play is superb, but he's easily on the same level as Carrick when it comes to playing on the ball. Only on a Man United fansite would the general opinion be that De Rossi isn't better than Carrick to be honest.
 
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