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If you want a player you have to show they're wanted. Not a third choice. Either pay the money or move on
Shame we've stooped so low as having to show we want the player and not the other way round
 
We really have made some terrible decisions.:( Fans do not help. As I have said before, we really need to wind out necks in a bit. Also the board really need to do the same and listen to what the scouts are telling them.

They do. But I really still can’t help but blame managers. They get away scout free when they make really poor decisions. I like Ole because he knows that this club is about similar to when Charlton would preach our values. But I just fear he doesn’t have the managerial quality to get us to where we need to be. We are the biggest club in this country and we should be at the top.
 
This is getting tedious Mainoldo.

If you can't see the point that's being put forward then don't bother

I see the point I just don’t get it. It’s not a problem of the style of transfer it’s a problem around the quality of transfer. That should always be the point.

When we signed Christiano Ronaldo 18 from Lisbon. Liverpool signed a winger called Gonzalez from some midtable Spanish team. That’s exactly the same style we don’t need to look up the outcome. F the style stick to getting the right quality and stop posting about how Liverpool have built a title team it’s not going to work here. We don’t have club or his eye for identifying talent for ‘his’ team.

Ole’s waxed lyrical about the type of players he needs. This kid was not what he was talking about.
 
I could be wrong, so someone correct me, but isn't he a left winger?

If the nutters at the club are still going to go forward with "Martial FC", is it really wise to sign him as a prospect/backup?

Ole's on the record this season that our signings will be limited. And i would assume we'd sell more than buy. If we are going the shrewd/prospect route, shouldn't we be looking for Young's / Mata's / Herrera's replacements over a reserves winger player?
 
Sky Sports News really are trash.

A few years ago you could generally rely on them to be somewhat close to the truth. These days they just spread rumours to get people to tune in and gamble with their betting company.
 
A few years ago you could generally rely on them to be somewhat close to the truth. These days they just spread rumours to get people to tune in and gamble with their betting company.
They don't even own SkyBet.

Agree about the general point though, they used to be slow but reliable, now they're slow and fairly unreliable.
 
We all laughed at Liverpool turning Southampton into their personal shopping centre
Mane, VVD were obviously great signings but both were performing to a high level week in/out in the prem. James appears to have electrifying pace but not much else. Could be a good option for us and hes still young.
 
Mane, VVD were obviously great signings but both were performing to a high level week in/out in the prem. James appears to have electrifying pace but not much else. Could be a good option for us and hes still young.

But not considered good enough for Utd by a lot of posters!
 
I could be wrong, so someone correct me, but isn't he a left winger?

If the nutters at the club are still going to go forward with "Martial FC", is it really wise to sign him as a prospect/backup?

Ole's on the record this season that our signings will be limited. And i would assume we'd sell more than buy. If we are going the shrewd/prospect route, shouldn't we be looking for Young's / Mata's / Herrera's replacements over a reserves winger player?

Our entire attack is so limited because lack of width. Apart from a centre back getting wingers should be our main priority.
 
I could be wrong, so someone correct me, but isn't he a left winger?

If the nutters at the club are still going to go forward with "Martial FC", is it really wise to sign him as a prospect/backup?

Ole's on the record this season that our signings will be limited. And i would assume we'd sell more than buy. If we are going the shrewd/prospect route, shouldn't we be looking for Young's / Mata's / Herrera's replacements over a reserves winger player?

James will not be integral to the starting 11 right away unless he comes here and is a marvel. Rashford has permanently been moved to centre forward, so naturally we need another left sided player.
 
There's no way we're anywhere near preparing a bid for him at this time. Do you people not know how this works? Transfer muppet amateurs.

You can't get to prepare a bid without first sitting idly at monitoring the situation for a month (at least!).
 
We'll have already made our decision. Transfer window is not even open yet.

You can agree to sign people outside of transfer windows, you just have to wait for it to open to register them. We may have made a decision but it’s not been agreed with Swansea or the player yet.
 
Don’t forget lads that the window isn’t officially open yet..

With any luck we get a few groundwork done now so that they are announced early into the window
 
Don’t forget lads that the window isn’t officially open yet..

With any luck we get a few groundwork done now so that they are announced early into the window

I hope so too, it opens in 2 days time but the earlier we make a start on the transfers the higher the chance is that we'll be finished before pre season.
 
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Mane, VVD were obviously great signings but both were performing to a high level week in/out in the prem. James appears to have electrifying pace but not much else. Could be a good option for us and hes still young.

It surprises me when I hear people say this is all he has and I guess this may be down to not having seen him often I myself has seen him around 3-4 times most notably against City which admittedly isn't a huge amount.

From my observation however he not only has blistering pace but he has the ability to control the ball at pace which is vital, so he is not only a straight line runner at pace, his changes of direction are also very good as he has the ball under control more often than not.

He also has good work rate and tenacity and needs very little invitation to go at players when one on one. He lacks good finishing ability at this stage (21 years old) but that can be improved upon as can his assist making ability.

However its worth remembering that Leeds under Bielsa were set to sign him in January this year and he has been linked to Man city (however tenuous that link might be) so they must have seen some good technical ability in him to think he was worth a look. For my money I hope we are in for him as I think with the right move he could be a very good player, hopefully here.
 
Bale was tearing Maicon a new one at the San Siro when he was the same age.. Bale was fantastic.. injuries have stopped him from becoming a true great.

This kid might be good.. and there is no reason why he wont/cant improve.. but comparing him to bale just because he is rapid is a bit unnecessary. We have seen plenty of pace merchants.
 
Bale was tearing Maicon a new one at the San Siro when he was the same age.. Bale was fantastic.. injuries have stopped him from becoming a true great.

This kid might be good.. and there is no reason why he wont/cant improve.. but comparing him to bale just because he is rapid is a bit unnecessary. We have seen plenty of pace merchants.

Aye, Bale has a wand of a left foot.
 
Don’t forget lads that the window isn’t officially open yet..

With any luck we get a few groundwork done now so that they are announced early into the window
I never understood this argument for us dragging things out. The transfer window is just a registration window. Transfer agreements can be made at any point in time - we've seen Chelsea, Real, Bayern, Juve, etc. all make moves already.
 
YouTube scouting is often misleading but surely you'd expect a 21 year old, playing at that level, to have more than just 3 minutes of being brought down and shooting right at the keeper? He's fast but that's all I'm seeing.
 
I never understood this argument for us dragging things out. The transfer window is just a registration window. Transfer agreements can be made at any point in time - we've seen Chelsea, Real, Bayern, Juve, etc. all make moves already.
The point I was making was in relation to the posts moaning about this deal not being completed yet or other deals before this one.
We don’t really know what’s been done till the window opens
 
Bale was tearing Maicon a new one at the San Siro when he was the same age.. Bale was fantastic.. injuries have stopped him from becoming a true great.

This kid might be good.. and there is no reason why he wont/cant improve.. but comparing him to bale just because he is rapid is a bit unnecessary. We have seen plenty of pace merchants.

Yeah, I was only comparing their pace, not their overal ability. I haven't seen such raw pace since Bale was tearing it up down the left flank for Spurs.

I don't know how this kid measures up in terms of end product/stats as I don't know a great deal about him, in truth.
 
YouTube scouting is often misleading but surely you'd expect a 21 year old, playing at that level, to have more than just 3 minutes of being brought down and shooting right at the keeper? He's fast but that's all I'm seeing.
Michael Owen amongst others made a successful career out of it!
 
I never understood this argument for us dragging things out. The transfer window is just a registration window. Transfer agreements can be made at any point in time - we've seen Chelsea, Real, Bayern, Juve, etc. all make moves already.
Yes but that tells you everything about how bad things have been within Utd over the last 6 years. The organisation at our rival ‘big’ clubs has been so much better as to not so much steal a march on us but leave us absolutely trailing!

We have to start to do things with a view to the long term not a patchwork job
 
People forget that Vardy was at Fleetwood

He wasn't signed by a PL club with title ambitions but his numbers at Fleetwood were good. This kid is 21 with less than impressive numbers and some Swansea fans considered him league 2 standard not long ago
 
YouTube scouting is often misleading but surely you'd expect a 21 year old, playing at that level, to have more than just 3 minutes of being brought down and shooting right at the keeper? He's fast but that's all I'm seeing.

Well he has 4 goals and 9 assists so that alone tells you he has more than being fouled and shooting right at the keeper. I've only really seen him against Slovakia and City in the FA cup but he stood out. It's also his first season of 1st team football so he doesn't seem to have done too badly. It's still all just potential, but that speed and control with the ball is something to work with. Crossing is something that can be worked on. Shooting can be worked on. Passing can be worked on. There's no good reason not to take a punt on him.
 
He wasn't signed by a PL club with title ambitions but his numbers at Fleetwood were good. This kid is 21 with less than impressive numbers and some Swansea fans considered him league 2 standard not long ago

33 games, 4 goals and 9 assists.

Not the worst stats for a 21 year old in his first professional season. Respectable at the very least.
 
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