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Daniel James | Officially Signs
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Confirm? Welsh and Young Winger.
I'm excited -- always did get him in FIFA 18, FIFA 19 and PES 19.
Anyway his best weapon seems to be his pace, speed and having a go at defenders? Not too sure, we'll see once he play.
Let's not make immature early judgment, give him chance first to prove himself, then criticise.
Hope this is a reliable news.
I'm excited -- always did get him in FIFA 18, FIFA 19 and PES 19.
Anyway his best weapon seems to be his pace, speed and having a go at defenders? Not too sure, we'll see once he play.
Let's not make immature early judgment, give him chance first to prove himself, then criticise.
Hope this is a reliable news.
Exactly. I'm all for this, we need a change of direction.
The guy may be better than Chong and I don't disagree but then Chong hasn't been given a chance. We have many talented young players in the squad. We need some experience. Unless a player is scoring an outrageous number of goals and assists, I wouldn't consider investing. I'm not in favor of taking away game time from Greenwood just to give James games.
The team should work harder. That's a given. However this obsession about work rate is ridiculous. Work rate is important but Talent is a must have in a top talent. Which is why a Pogba can find himself a top squad even though he sometimes lack workrate while the likes of Phil Neville and Fellaini end up at Everton or in China.
Though, I should say that I suppose that James is below Martial. Since I don't really know much about him and he could well be a wonderkid that takes the PL by storm.
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When I see the price , I even don't care who he is
Don't remember the last time we signed player from Championship after Zaha, that was last signing by SAF.
Not really sure why people are upset about this. Honestly, I doubt the people moaning have even watched him in games, so why are you making such a fuss. £15m is not going to affect our transfer activities.
Even if you don't think he is good enough he is too low a priced to be so negative.
Even if you don't think he is good enough he is too low a priced to be so negative.
That should put an end to the negative ones and make them suddenly shift to meltdown mode if Spurs or Liverpool sweep in
So true.
And yet managers come in and demand more workrate from those top players and let some talented players leave. Some wouldnt fancy Pogba for that reason. Why take him when you can have someone just as good but works for the team when you dont have the ball allowing a pressing style?
Here we go.
Same people were saying for years don’t sign a striker because what about Rashford.
If Greenwood is good then he’d get games. Now we shouldn’t sign young attackers because what about two players who done feck all in the first team. We shouldn’t sign De Ligt if we got a chance because what about Tuanzebe. Would someone please think about Tuanzebe.
Remember the days when Sky were legit tier 1?
Jesus they're fecking terrible now.
Jesus they're fecking terrible now.
How many tricks does the lazy Martial have? I'd rather have a speed demon trying to pass players more often in a match than having Martial run 5 yards check back to look for a easy pass.
In the grand scheme of things, that's what wins you games.... Not the effort level and how much field coverage you have in a game which people seem to value a lot these days (also explains why Lingard and Young still have a job)
[QUOTE="beingshe7don, post: 24121939, member: 102561". I'm not in favor of taking away game time from Greenwood just to give James games.[/QUOTE]
It's not an either / or situation. This guy is 4 years older than Greenwood. I've got high hopes for Greenwood, but he's miles away from the first team. Barely played U23s this season , mostly in the U18s.
Realistically, it's a season in the U23s, then out on loan. Wouldn't expect to see him in first team much before August 2022.
It's not an either / or situation. This guy is 4 years older than Greenwood. I've got high hopes for Greenwood, but he's miles away from the first team. Barely played U23s this season , mostly in the U18s.
Realistically, it's a season in the U23s, then out on loan. Wouldn't expect to see him in first team much before August 2022.
I mean yeah that's what that means. They were successful despite the fact that they turned over a big chunk of their squad. Now you're also ignoring all the little details such as actually signing 6 players, in two different transfer windows, a few of them in positions where they were already comfortable and could afford a bit of gamble, operating on unlimited budget, which means they can afford to take more risks, none of their signings being anything less than an established top league player, some of the players that left were basicaly a non entity the year before and a small matter of having quite possibly one of the best managesr in the history of football.
But, yeah sure, exact same situation. We should follow their every step as it will in no doubt end in the exact same result.
Nobody is suggesting we should substitute talent for work rate. There are quality players who work hard. Look at City, Liverpool or any other top team. They work hard and have top quality.
Well till the time of writing Pogba played for United, Juventus and United again (world record signing of the time). He's our main assist man as well. Meanwhile Zidane seems interested in having him at Real. Those are some big clubs there.
If we can find someone as good who works for the team then by all means we should get rid. But lets stop with this obsession about work rate. We're not at six place because of lack of dwork mules (although its a problem) but because of a serious lack in talent. The likes of Young, Shaw, Darmian, Smalling, Jones, Valencia, Lingard, Lukaku and co shouldn't even be anywhere near at this team.
That player isn't James though. He's nowhere near as talented as Martial is. At least not yet
He's a good source too. I'm hoping we can wrap this one up soon. Good potential transfer.
I find that hilarious. People don't want to sign players because of players we already have. If Chong is good enough, he'll be better than people we bring in, if Greenwood is good enough he'll be better than people we bring in. Same for Martial. Signing a player doesn't send current players to the scrap heap. It should give them a challenge to prove they're better.
That's got to be the "strongest" argument I've heard in my life. When did I indicate that Martial is the barometer for standards that I"m looking for in a winger? All our wingers have been pathetic this season. However, we can't really change all 11 players, now can we....
We should hoover up all the young English talent. Better than buying Coutinho for £85m
I think if those guys deserve it they will get game time ahead of James
Its both. Our talented players dont work as hard as the top clubs players, leading us to need players who make up for their lack of workrate or we have holes that can be exploited defensively
Thanks. Don't know much about him, but I suppose you can't really go wrong at that price.
How quick is he?
Two-footed player too. Hope he comes good
Two-footed player too. Hope he comes good
People are never happy. From shouting that we need transfers, to complaining when we sign experience players because they will block young players development. Then we can't sign promising young players because they'll block young players we have. Then the players we have are not good enough!
The players, like Greenwood et. al, will not be held back by any incoming transfers if they are good enough. Just because you played in the United youth teams it doesn't mean you get a free pass into the first team when you get older. A lot of United youth players are overrated. I really like the look of Greenwood and Gomez and I think they will breakthrough, but it doesnt mean they should have a free run and no competition.
How many players like this have other teams signed over the years, went on to be good players and our fans complain that our scouts aren't doing their job?
The players, like Greenwood et. al, will not be held back by any incoming transfers if they are good enough. Just because you played in the United youth teams it doesn't mean you get a free pass into the first team when you get older. A lot of United youth players are overrated. I really like the look of Greenwood and Gomez and I think they will breakthrough, but it doesnt mean they should have a free run and no competition.
How many players like this have other teams signed over the years, went on to be good players and our fans complain that our scouts aren't doing their job?
On paper Henderson, Milner and Wijnaldum are journeyman midfielders who most United fans wouldn't touch with a barge pole.
In reality, they're part of an annoyingly good team and all three work their balls off in every match and make a massive contribution to the vermin's title and CL challenges.
In reality, they're part of an annoyingly good team and all three work their balls off in every match and make a massive contribution to the vermin's title and CL challenges.
Finally a sensible signing, young, British, relatively cheap in a position we need.
Competing with Leeds for players.
Jokes aside, I don't mind moves like this too much. Big money moves have not served us particularly well have they?
Jokes aside, I don't mind moves like this too much. Big money moves have not served us particularly well have they?
I've been raving about this guy for some time, he has all the tools to be a very good player.
"The best players at the best clubs are the ones who cause you problems and he is definitely up there," Warne said.
"He will go on to have a great career, no doubt. I think he is one of the top two players in the league - my other is the Aston Villa captain (Jack Grealish). Those two win games on their own.
"He (James) absolutely annihilated us at our place - he was unplayable. I knew we had to curtail James' pace which is a joke, it's like he's on a motorbike."
"The best players at the best clubs are the ones who cause you problems and he is definitely up there," Warne said.
"He will go on to have a great career, no doubt. I think he is one of the top two players in the league - my other is the Aston Villa captain (Jack Grealish). Those two win games on their own.
"He (James) absolutely annihilated us at our place - he was unplayable. I knew we had to curtail James' pace which is a joke, it's like he's on a motorbike."
Which position does he play?
It's not an either / or situation. This guy is 4 years older than Greenwood. I've got high hopes for Greenwood, but he's miles away from the first team. Barely played U23s this season , mostly in the U18s.
Realistically, it's a season in the U23s, then out on loan. Wouldn't expect to see him in first team much before August 2022.[/QUOTE]
James is still pretty young.... 21.... Our team lacks leaders in the dressing room and by no means I imply that has anything to do with age. But we need someone whose been there and done that. Someone who can inspire others and not someone who needs inspiration. I'm looking for players that are mid 20s and have vast experience playing in the far better league to start in the first 11.
People didn't want Robertson when Hull got relegated. Mane and Salah weren't popular choices either.
From what I've seen of him he's far from being all about speed.
He is rapid, don't get me wrong, but he's composed as well.
The only obvious 'flaw' for him is that he's young, and coming from a supposedly lesser league.
To me though, if we make this signing, it shows that the club understand that we need a fresh start.
The expectations for next season shouldn't be a title challenge, but if we can bring in players like James we can build towards a future when we're regularly challenging for trophies.
He is rapid, don't get me wrong, but he's composed as well.
The only obvious 'flaw' for him is that he's young, and coming from a supposedly lesser league.
To me though, if we make this signing, it shows that the club understand that we need a fresh start.
The expectations for next season shouldn't be a title challenge, but if we can bring in players like James we can build towards a future when we're regularly challenging for trophies.
It sounds like our interest is genuine from Simon Stone's tweet. Some people in here are properly miserable though, it has to be said. How many threads and posts have we had about United not being in for players like Robertson, Alli et al when they left Hull, MK Dons or whoever?
We still might not even end up signing James but if we do it's a punt, and £15m is about as low risk as it gets for a club like us in this market. It suggests we might actually have some kind of transfer strategy in place, instead of pissing hundreds of millions up the wall on a big name player like Dybala for the sake of doing so.
We still might not even end up signing James but if we do it's a punt, and £15m is about as low risk as it gets for a club like us in this market. It suggests we might actually have some kind of transfer strategy in place, instead of pissing hundreds of millions up the wall on a big name player like Dybala for the sake of doing so.
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