Dani Carvajal

I firmly believe that there's a shitload of defenders out there that have gone under the radar & are on the cusp of great things. Buyin a recognised star doesnt always work out - loss of hunger, settling in period etc.

Surely with our global scouting network we can unearth these hidden gems - instead of tirelessly concentrating on what we cant have, or wont pay for..
 
Red Hand Devil said:
I firmly believe that there's a shitload of defenders out there that have gone under the radar & are on the cusp of great things. Buyin a recognised star doesnt always work out - loss of hunger, settling in period etc.

Surely with our global scouting network we can unearth these hidden gems - instead of tirelessly concentrating on what we cant have, or wont pay for..
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Good modern rightbacks are scarce though. The best ones aren't leaving (including Carvajal) so the alternative would either be a punt on a talent like Meunier/Darmian or buying a decent one like Clyne. There are much more leftback talents than rightbacks nowadays, there's not many options out there.
 
The ultimate muppetry is naming a hypothetical scenario where a player is sold and you get money + a player in return. It's so rare in football yet every time someone is linked away from the club a swap deal is proposed.
 
I wouldn't mind him tbh but doubt he'd be willing to come to us.
 
NL Max said:
Good modern rightbacks are scarce though. The best ones aren't leaving (including Carvajal) so the alternative would either be a punt on a talent like Meunier/Darmian or buying a decent one like Clyne. There are much more leftback talents than rightbacks nowadays, there's not many options out there.
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There's no way that there's no quality RB's in this world, other than the headliners such as you've mentioned. Clyne is not the answer either - he's plan B & not as good as Coleman too.

Different defensive position - but who had ever heard of Vidic before we bought the United legend?! Surely, we can unearth players of that type again - its unimaginable if we cant..
 
Amir said:
Because they signed Danilo, which means he won't be starting for long...
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Yes he will. He's better than Danilo. Danilo was bought in mainly to replace Arbeloa, but also to provide backup for the central midfield since he can play there too. Carvajal is their number one right back without a doubt.
 
Snow said:
The ultimate muppetry is naming a hypothetical scenario where a player is sold and you get money + a player in return. It's so rare in football yet every time someone is linked away from the club a swap deal is proposed.
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Its a possibility though and only really discussed when its logical. We do need a rightback, Real have two starting caliber RBs. Real want De Gea. If Real were willing to let Carvajal go to get De Gea, and Carvajal was open to a move because of Danilo's arrival, I don't see why not.
 
You get the impression we'll be speaking to Madrid a fair bit this summer. Carvajal would probably be my first pick at right back out of all the names previously bandied about.
 
pocco said:
No more Madrid cast offs for me, thanks. Sometimes I wonder what we pay our scouts for.
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Carvajal would be my first choice if I could choose any right back to sign. Turning him down just because he has played for Real would be silly he is a class player who would make our starting eleven a lot stronger.
 
Carvajal won't be sold, he is Real Madrid's number 1 RB ffs, Danilo has been bought in to strengthen the squad and add competition.
That said, as he he is amongst the best in the world (not great competion) he is someone we should court.
 
Snow said:
The ultimate muppetry is naming a hypothetical scenario where a player is sold and you get money + a player in return. It's so rare in football yet every time someone is linked away from the club a swap deal is proposed.
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I'd guess swapsies might become a lot more common in the future for clubs with FPP restrictions.
 
So we sign him and develop him into the world's best right back so he can feck back off to Madrid. Do not want - unless we add a clause of no going back to Spain in his contract for at least 6 years. [/Rant Over]
 
Kidders said:
Carvajal won't be sold, he is Real Madrid's number 1 RB ffs, Danilo has been bought in to strengthen the squad and add competition.
That said, as he he is amongst the best in the world (not great competion) he is someone we should court.
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If it was any other team I would agree with you but since it's the circus that is Real Madrid I wouldn't put it past them.
 
Carvajal would be my #1 choice for RB target (if possible), so I sincerely hope this interest is real. If we're selling them De Gea, we might as well ask for a quality RB that we badly need.
 
the hea said:
Carvajal would be my first choice if I could choose any right back to sign. Turning him down just because he has played for Real would be silly he is a class player who would make our starting eleven a lot stronger.
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This. I believe he's an excellent RB and comfortably better than Rafael (I'm a Rafael fan, btw). I, for one, would love to sign him.
 
Would love us to sign him, although it would kill me if we offload one of the best players in the world in his position and get a right back in return.
 
Trizy said:
Since we're rumored to receive only €30m for De Gea I'd rather him as a straight swap. IMO he's the best RB in the world, so well rounded.
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We have no leverage when it comes to De Gea. Why would Real give up their homegrown 23 year old starting RB who has a contract until 2019 for a player they can just wait a year and sign for free?
 
Sultan said:
I'd guess swapsies might become a lot more common in the future for clubs with FPP restrictions.
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It's such a forced transaction. You'd have to have a player on each side willing to leave and join that other particular club at the same time. One team is generally forcing a player out and that's not something player respond kindly to.
 
People saying Carvajal is Real's #1 RB aren't looking at how Real work. Danilo cost them €30M which automatically makes him their #1 RB, just look at Isco, no matter how well he played this season as soon as Bale and James were fit he was dropped. You also have to take into account that Real are looking to balance things more nowadays with sales than before due to wanting to either expand the Bernabeu or build a new stadium. So if they can get the keeper they want and lose a RB they have already replaced and only paid £5M for, I think they would.
 
He's definitely not their No.1 right back any more, he didn't cost as much as Danilo.
 
Stupid that Madrid are ready to keep Arbeloa and let Carvajal go, expecting Danilo to make an instant impact.. Huge risk, but then it's Madrid, when do they ever do anything logical!
 
Snow said:
It's such a forced transaction. You'd have to have a player on each side willing to leave and join that other particular club at the same time. One team is generally forcing a player out and that's not something player respond kindly to.
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Good point.
 
Devil may care said:
People saying Carvajal is Real's #1 RB aren't looking at how Real work. Danilo cost them €30M which automatically makes him their #1 RB, just look at Isco, no matter how well he played this season as soon as Bale and James were fit he was dropped. You also have to take into account that Real are looking to balance things more nowadays with sales than before due to wanting to either expand the Bernabeu or build a new stadium. So if they can get the keeper they want and lose a RB they have already replaced and only paid £5M for, I think they would.
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Illaramendi and Coentrao also cost big money and neither of them were ever guaranteed starters. Maybe the Carvajal/Danilo situation will be a problem in the future but, Carvajal will definitely have a chance to keep his position. Especially since with Casillas possibly gone Carvajal would be the only home grown player in the first 11.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
Illaramendi and Coentrao also cost big money and neither of them were ever guaranteed starters. Maybe the Carvajal/Danilo situation will be a problem in the future but, Carvajal will definitely have a chance to keep his position. Especially since with Casillas possibly gone Carvajal would be the only home grown player in the first 11.
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I do think you're right. However at the same time its Real Madrid we are talking about, they sold Ozil who was their best assist machine. Then they sold Di Maria who was their most creative player atleast for the second half of the season. Now they're treating Isco like a handy man. Despite being their best player this season he's the first to drop out should they have a fully fit squad. So i don't know what to think really.
 
People seem to use the fact that Real make silly decisions to prove every point these days. That doesn't mean every single decision they make is ridiculous. They won the UCL last season, so they must be doing more than just randomly running a football club.

Carvajal will definitely have his chance to keep his place in the team. If he doesn't perform, he'll be on the bench alright, but that's football.
 
Well done caf. We've either managed to convince a Spanish tabloid to fabricate or even better made the club bid for him.
 
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