I think that getting Alves on a free could prove an excellent move. We need competition at RB and this would allow us to save 15+ million pounds to improve other parts of the squad and give us a little more time to find a worthy candidate to take over the position long term. I think Clyne isn't as big of an improvement on our current options to justify a 15-20 million pound fee, but I'd be ok with him coming if it were on the cheap. Porto would probably ask for a fortune for Danilo which would make it a very risky move and one i'd rather see us avoid for now.
Dani Alves
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We are going out for Brazilians this summer I see - Alves, Firmino and Anderson.
I have which is why i can comfortably say he's no better than Valencia. This is clearly another case of people getting intoxicated by a known player who we can buy just because he's Dani Alves of the Barca glory years. Fact is he is 32 next year and we should be looking towards the future.
Well, depending on your opinion of Clyne, there may not be any attractive options out there to replace Tony.
(Outside of anyone currently employed by ManUtd, obviously...).
(Outside of anyone currently employed by ManUtd, obviously...).
He's not signing a contract?? Hasn't for 2 years.
I have been saying all season that we should sign him for free at this seasons close.
Our overall squad still in my eyes needs 3 or 4 quality players and i dont think we should be throwing money around in the amounts we did last summer.
Dani Alves is a great option to solve the right back issue in the short term - allowing us to spend big on other key areas (Im thinking Bale as an example).
You wouldn't want to splash 30 mil on Danilo or Clynne (who to be frank isn't good enough) which will leave us short in our pursuit of Bale (again, just an example)
Sign Alves this summer. Beef up the rest of the squad, then hopefully in 2/3 years the quality of fullbacks in world football has improved and we can sign someone of genuine quality rather than the likes of Clynne, who might be good enough to help qualify for top 4, but i want us to challenge for the champions league, so Clynne is not the man.
Our overall squad still in my eyes needs 3 or 4 quality players and i dont think we should be throwing money around in the amounts we did last summer.
Dani Alves is a great option to solve the right back issue in the short term - allowing us to spend big on other key areas (Im thinking Bale as an example).
You wouldn't want to splash 30 mil on Danilo or Clynne (who to be frank isn't good enough) which will leave us short in our pursuit of Bale (again, just an example)
Sign Alves this summer. Beef up the rest of the squad, then hopefully in 2/3 years the quality of fullbacks in world football has improved and we can sign someone of genuine quality rather than the likes of Clynne, who might be good enough to help qualify for top 4, but i want us to challenge for the champions league, so Clynne is not the man.
Good God I hope this isn't true.
He looks absolutely shite thesedays. I mean seriously shite.
He looks absolutely shite thesedays. I mean seriously shite.
If that's all you can take from my post I'll just stop here. He's done.
What was there to take? I get it his ageing... Does't mean his career is over. He would still bring a great deal of quality we could do with and would improve our defence on the ball.. Which is what LVG ideally wants.
He'd bring a great deal to us, comparable to what his former colleague Victor Valdes has.
We already have one of the best defences in the league and our defenders are fine on the ball. Alves is past his best and has already been replaced by Danillo as the Brazil RB.
Comfortably yet completely incorrectly.
Also noone is getting "intoxicated" 
There really is little difference between him and Valencia this year. And as discussed earlier, buying a 32 year old RB is a bit myopic and unimaginative. We should be looking for Dani Alves circa 7-8 years ago.
Miles apart. Even on the downhill once he has regained his form he has been far far better than valencia. Valencia wouldn't get a game at barcelona.
I don't disagree with the last sentence of course. But if LVG feels he can keep him peforming at his current level or better, and he does, it would be a good deal. The question is how much more he's got in the tank and whether he is motivated enough.
You're just making this up. Nice of you to propose a 32 year old RB in decline as our future though. Don't quit your day job.
Anybody who's a regular for barcelona is good enough for us !
I didn't propose him. You might be making up having watched him though. He's not a brilliant fullback anymore but he's no Antonio valencia ffs.
That's not really the point here. We should be looking at younger options; players who are ascending and will develop into the player Alves was 4-5 years ago, not a 32 year old Alves who is not likely to be good for much longer.
Again, I do agree with that. That we should be looking at someone closer to his pomp who can give us many more years. But as a stop gap it could work is my point. If we do sign him I don't think its one that can't turn out very well. For one, he is completely used to a Possesion based game.
That would make sense if we had a serious problem on the right, but the fact is we don't. A combination of Rafael and Valencia are more than enough to be effective in LvG's current setup.
While I get your point , it depends on what our summer targets are and to how much money we have available to spend on such targets .
If a marquee signing or signings come in like a bale and a pogba , we won't get much change out of 100 to 120 million so a free alves might not be such a bad option for a couple of years .
Agree with that. A free Alves would be more or less like a loan player coming back. We would almost certainly lose one of Valencia or Rafael if that happened.
I've stopped counting rafael. My ideal scenario would be rafael making that position his own but he's either not fit or not in favor with LVG. I don't rate Valencia. He is mediocre as a fullback and not very different as a winger. A nice squad player to have but with no real quality. Most squads need players like him but I'd never rely on him as a fullback.
I'd personally give that lad, erm Rafael is it? A go.
If we're serious about competing for top honors why sign someone deemed not good enough for Barcelona? Plus he's a dickhead.
I wouldnt say he is being deemed not good enough, they are just freshing up the squad much like letting Xavi go, they deemed Sanchez and Fabregas not good enough, all be it they had quality in the positions they played in already, they have Montoya and Douglas fighting for Alves's position, most likely getting him off the wage bill and building for the future
Do not want. He's been poor for about two years. It's like he's been lobotomised and become a really dumb player.
The problem with him is erm he is always injured.
So was half our defense but injuries seemed to have dried up.
He was absolutely shocking at the World Cup. Played like he was about 38.
Don't want, prefer Rafael, he's a nice bloke though.
Piszczeck would be an interesting option... Especially alongside hummles if that ever materialises
Other than that Coleman and Clyne would seem the two most likely premiership proven options
Di Sciglio could be worth a punt.
But there is certainly not the depth of right back options available
Maicon played for a weak Inter side, Alves plays for Barcelona who are playing really well at the moment, in other words a lot more competitive and surrounded by better players.. A bit of a difference although I can see where you are coming from.
We only just got rid of him ?
If that's the case United would probably be better off going with Danilo, Mario Fernandes, or simply sticking with Rafael.
Didnt Danilo sign a pre-contract agreement with Madrid?
Whoops. Just discovered it. My bad.
He would be a bad signing
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