Does he though? I'm sure I remember Opta having Dalot in their top 5 of the fastest recorded players in the league this season. Of course AWB hasn't played a lot, but I'm not as sure as some on here that he's actually quicker than Dalot.
Dalot vs Wan-Bissaka
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Sure about that? Dalot looks rapid in terms of top speed, but his acceleration from a dead start can look a little cumbersome from time to time. AWB has never really shown great speed. I remember him chasing an attacker and Bailly casually flew past him to intercept the ball (then again, Bailly is rapid). Dalot also looks to have better stamina.
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It's close. I am happy about the fact that there have been rumors about awb leaving, bring sold etc but he has remained a through professional. Not a single interview. Just goes about his job.
I see some people saying Dalot lacks pace, are we watching the same player this season?
It's not useful at all to look at last year for Dalot. He was a young fullback not getting chances. Now he's trusted by a top manager and he benched Cancelo for Portugal, who is one of the best in the world. Dalots form has been far beyond anything Wan Bissaka has ever shown.
Things dalot has that Wan Bissaka has never shown - off ball defending, positioning, elite aerial win stats, excellent ball progression/passing through the lines, good at running with the ball. His final ball is improving and generally as a full back he is incredibly well rounded with a few points like the ones I pointed above that are potentially elite. He's got a very high ceiling because he doesn't have a weakness in his game.
I think you are vastly underrating Dalot. Ten Hag sees him as a key player and his progression has been great this year. I have always liked Wan Bissaka, but objectively he has tons of gaps in his game both offensively and defensively, and he has just never shown the ability that Dalot has.
We need a right footed Shaw and out of the two Dalot is the closest. We could buy a better RB who TH would pick to play exactly how he wants in the future, but Dalot could also develop into that player.
It's not though. Wan Bissaka is better if there is a particularly left wing heavy team that we want to just shut down 1 player. All other points of defending, Dalot is superior with.
Dalot everytime. Not just what he brings to the attack but his passion is infectious.
Nah I don't think he is better defensively... He has gotten better though. There's not even much in it for me so I'm not very invested in this, just happy to see them both playing well.
Both have been completely written off in the not too distant past. I'm delighted with where they both seem to be now. Dalot first choice for me, outstanding this season but Wan Bissaka has looked a new man in the last few games, a more than able alternative.
I'll go as far as to say that the only right backs in the world who I would take over Dalot are Reece James, Trent and Hakimi. Similar level to City's fullbacks, depending on system (as Portugal showed, when Dalot benched Cancelo, who is one of the best in the world in possession but far less rounded, and better on the left anyway).
He'd start for Real Madrid. He'd start for Barca. He'd start for Juve/Milan/Inter/Napoli. He'd start for Bayern/Dortmund. He'd start for Arsenal/Spurs.
He's genuinely turned into a top 5 right back in the world, with the 3 above, Cancelo and himself.
Genuinely think that people who this is close are letting previous Dalot hate that they had influence how they see him. From a time when he didn't get any chances as a young fullback, to now where he's a key player for us and still just 23, and I guarantee that Ten Hag doesn't even think about replacing him long term.
All the "Can't believe people are saying AWB, memory goldfish nonsense"
I just skimmed all the posts in this thread and there are less than 5 posts that said AWB, not even sure if it's five.
Anyways this thread is a non-starter. AWB is just a back up and only reason he is at the club is because we didn't get decent offer for him. Dalot will be first choice RB and if he continues to play like he did this season then we won't even need starting RB next season. It's Dalot's place to lose. Credit to him, nothing was handed to him. He had his struggles and now he is very good.
I just skimmed all the posts in this thread and there are less than 5 posts that said AWB, not even sure if it's five.
Anyways this thread is a non-starter. AWB is just a back up and only reason he is at the club is because we didn't get decent offer for him. Dalot will be first choice RB and if he continues to play like he did this season then we won't even need starting RB next season. It's Dalot's place to lose. Credit to him, nothing was handed to him. He had his struggles and now he is very good.
Why will anyone hate Dalot? I mean there will be people who didn't rate him or still don't him very highly but why would anyone hate Dalot? Almost 0 controversies on and off the pitch.
Dalot has had an excellent season, AWB has had an excellent couple of games against fodder. There's a big difference between those two things. Credit to AWB for the performances because he's come in from the cold and showed something about him, but to think he's suddenly the better option is knee jerk stuff. If he can be a valid rotation option for the season that's good enough for me because we were running Dalot pretty hard.
I don't get it. But before this season people genuinely strongly disliked him, thought he was a garbage/hopeless footballer, etc etc, despite literally being u23 and never getting a proper chance to develop by previous managers. It was weird. He's shut up most of the haters, but anyone still saying "he is ok but we will replace him before long" or something like that is still letting that previous weird opinion influence them. It's not opening your eyes to the player he has actually become, which is IMO a top 5 RB in the world.
What are you smoking? Dalot has had a good four months and all of a sudden he's the 4th/5th best RB in the world. Rawkish level stuff.
He's barely has a CL resume and in the World Cup he played against South Korea, Switzerland and Morocco.
Mazraoui, Carvajal, Di Lorenzo, Trippier are better and I'm sure there's young RBs out there with a lot more potential than Dalot.
I guess the only thing to say is you'll come around to the opinion I'm sure as he continues his form and eventually changes your mind. He's genuinely just a very good right back now. Yes he's a top 5 RB based on this season's form. Mind you there isn't tons of quality RB's in the world, but the ones you mentioned, nah no way. He wouldn't bench Cancelo for the national team if he was some mediocre player ffs. Mazraoui, come on. He's started 6 games in the Bundesliga ffs. Bayern chop and change right backs every game and move their best midfielder to RB occasionally, but he's ahead of Dalot? Come on. And he is now set as our long term right back precisely because he's shown an excellent level.
You do realize that Diogo Dalot is only 23 right? And already has benched one of the best fullbacks of the past 5 years for his national team and is the current and long term undisputed starter for United? It's shocking to me that some can't see that he's become a very good player and that the manager loves him.
From desperately needed to sign a RB in last window to having problem to pick two very high quality RBs, who would've thought?
There is no much difference between the two. It's good to have competition and I'm comfortable with any one of them playing.
There is no much difference between the two. It's good to have competition and I'm comfortable with any one of them playing.
Clearly and obviously Dalot. AWB is a competent back up and that’s about it.
AWB should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Dalot. The gap between AWB and Dalot is bigger than the gap between Martial and Kane.... Dalot is almost three times as good as AWB. AWB is a decent back up and that's about it. Actually United can just sell him if his head is getting too big thinking he should start over DALOT!
Tough one... I will reserve judgement until AWB has had more playing time under Erik.
I have always liked Diogo though as was not one of the many that wanted him out of here not so long ago.
I have always liked Diogo though as was not one of the many that wanted him out of here not so long ago.
There is not even a game I think I’ll prefer AWB ahead of Dalot unless we are talking about a specific phase where he has to defend against a fullback who is already running with the ball.
If you release them as free agents now, one of them will be playing champions league football next season. The other one will be lucky to end up at Europa league.
With that said, AWB has shown great improvement and age is still on his side to improve some aspects of his game so he might improve beyond what we are seeing now
If you release them as free agents now, one of them will be playing champions league football next season. The other one will be lucky to end up at Europa league.
With that said, AWB has shown great improvement and age is still on his side to improve some aspects of his game so he might improve beyond what we are seeing now
Dalot is much better to keep the control of the ball, to pass, to play out off the back and is much more press resistant. He is as good as Shaw to get out of tricky situations while keeping the ball and that’s key to the way we want to play and to recycle the ball from defense to attack. He is an extra midfielder in possession.
AWB has been good but doesn’t have this qualities.
AWB has been good but doesn’t have this qualities.
All hail ETH.
A year ago, this thread would have been 'both are terrible but if you had to pick, who would it be?' Today, it's a choice between two very capable fullbacks with their form on the rise whether pushing as first choice or a squad option. Love it
A year ago, this thread would have been 'both are terrible but if you had to pick, who would it be?' Today, it's a choice between two very capable fullbacks with their form on the rise whether pushing as first choice or a squad option. Love it
AWB may give us something when we're leading by 1 goal against top teams and all we have to do is sit back and pass the time out. Otherwise, Dalot offers us much more.
I always feel safe with AWB, I'd go with AWB my boy.
Might as well ask what is 1+1
I prefer AWB, especially in terms of end product. As much as I love Diogo his brain seems to switch off once he gets within 25 yards of the box.
AWB has improved in his last few Games he’s played. even got an assist, his dribblings been quite impressive too. I do think dalot offers us more going forward though.
Bissaka all day long. Love him. Dalot never hits with his crosses anyway.
Dalot. And it is not even a contest. Awb will do his basic job well and that is it. Dalot offers much much more
This whole forum is based mainly on knee jerk reactions game by game. I mean you are saying Dalot has had an excellent season.....when its what 15-20games....go back a year and Milan decided not to buy him after a loan.
I never rated Dalot and did Bissaka. Bissaka did pretty well in his first season and people forget that, Dalot has done little here before this season. Yes he has improved a lot and we have seen Bissaka regress when he needed to improve certain areas of his game hugely.
But I still feel people are under rating Bissaka and vastly getting ahead of themselves over Dalot based on four months and displacing Cancelo in the national team when Cancelo has been poor for Portugal and it has nothin gto do with club football anyway
You say he is 23 like he is 19? I agree with the other guy, you dont become one of the best right backs in the world in 5months. He has been good but people are over hyping it. I hope you are right with his progression obviously but there are lots of right backs his age and far younger around the world playing at his level already with more talent too.
Cancelo for Portugaol hasnt been the same one for City as national football is irrelevant to the argument on club football but Walker, James, TAA and Trippier have all been better than him and thats just in this country let alone around the world. Top 5 on 4months....complete nonsense
Watch games closely(not that you even need to do that to see) and you'll understand how much more important and integral Dalot is compared to AWB.
How? Because he mostly cuts inside going forward and loose the ball? Or because he misses most crosses? A lot better this season, but he dose not offer anything special. Bissaka was poor last season, but been good coming back from injury.
Depends on what kind of defensive work you need the fullback to do.
If they are going to be up against a winger who likes to dribble and get at the fullback 1v1, then yeah AWB is very good at dealing with that. In fact he's incredibly good at pure 1v1's. He probably still has Sterling in his pocket.
However AWB struggles with his positioning, so teams who like to pass the ball around a lot in one-two's tend to get a fair bit of joy out of playing around AWB. He also tends to break the offside trap quite a lot, and is terrible in the air so can be taken advantage of by cross-field balls floating over his head straight to an attacking player. Although to be fair I thought he looked a fair bit better in the air in the last couple of games, but it's such a small sample size that I'm not sure if he's improved on that or if he just hasn't had the opportunity to mess up yet.
Dalot is obviously far better in the air, and I'd say is probably smarter with his positioning as well. At least it's not something I've really noticed as a consistent weakness yet, but it is still relatively early days for him.
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Dalot is not better defensively. End of story -much better going forward, but not better defensively than AWB