Dalot vs Wan-Bissaka

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Dalot for sure. It was clear yesterday who is more suited to ten haag tactics. But we do have an able back up in awb.
 
Dalot

But I do wonder whether Ten Hag might be having second thoughts about selling AWB or whether to keep him as back up / competition? Or have the last few competent games just helped us to move him on?
 
Dalot. It's good to see Wan-Bissaka getting some minutes in the lesser games though, it's better he has some kind of role here than lose him for peanuts.
 
They are fundamentally different types of defenders. Would make a lot of sense to sell AWB in the summer and bring Laird into the fold as backup.
 
Dalot but nice to see AWB is more than capable to fill in or even rotate.
 
Dalot

But I do wonder whether Ten Hag might be having second thoughts about selling AWB or whether to keep him as back up / competition? Or have the last few competent games just helped us to move him on?
Er, or the rats refused to buy EtH an actual RB back-up that's suitable for his system, so he has to make do?
 
Er, or the rats refused to buy EtH an actual RB back-up that's suitable for his system, so he has to make do?

That's what will happen.

It would be great to have a new right-back but it's not a priority unlike other positions for me. If we were to buy one, I'd keep Dalot as I think it suits the team better.
 
I prefer AWB in a defensive situation, and prefer Dalot in an attacking situation. I disagree with people in this thread who said Dalot is better defensively - AWB does some fantastic last ditch tackles and clearances.

I'd like to have both, personally, and for us to make use of them appropriately depending on the opposition. I'm not a fan of only having one option in a position. Dalot would be the default, but AWB has earned his right to start some games and, in a situation where we need more a faster player with more stamina on the RB role, we can switch in AWB appropriately.
 
You can't start with the bolded then follow it up with selective stats. xG and XA when comparing fullbacks is the height of stats folly. The fullback position doesn't even have anywhere close to enough production. Who uses goals and assists to compare fullbacks? Further made even worse using 3 games.
Exactly. That and the eye test says Dalot easily. Even defensively this season he has been immense compared to before. Ronaldo called him a mentality monster like Martinez and Casemiro and you can see it in him now that the confidence is there. Preferred to Cancelo in latter matches for Portugal in WC and didn’t put a foot wrong. Finally fulfilling his promise.
 
I prefer Dalot. He's played well for Portugal too so I think the quality is there and improving. Amazingly, he's scored 2 in 10 outings for Portugal so he does have goals in him as a RB. Yet to score for us but let's face it, we have not been good at scoring in recent seasons.
 
It's not a contest, Dalot is an excellent all round full back and is better than Wan Bissaka at everything (by a fair distance) apart from slide tackling which Wan Bissaka is elite at TBF. Off the ball defending, everything on the ball and going forward, aerial duels, positioning... All Dalot.

Dalot is without a doubt for me our long term right back. No hesitation. It's huge as well that he benched Cancelo for Portugal as well. He's just very good and it's time for people to recognize him as such.

Wan Bissaka is good cover, but we will probably replace him before long.
 
Wow I expected this to be unanimous. Are some people on here really that blind that they still don't rate Dalot, what the feck :lol: :lol:

It really isn't close between them. Dalot has been one of the best fullbacks in the league this season. If we were getting rid, teams like Barca and Madrid would be after him. Wan Bissaka is for sale and we can maybe get an offer from Crystal Palace. It's not close at all guys.
 
Dalot is miles better!

Look at the level of opposition Wan Bissaka has faced in recent weeks. Burnley, Forest, Wolves and Bournemouth. That's about his level!
 
There's barely anything in it based on the last three games of AWB. Dalot probably edges it for his comfort on the ball but there isn't a gap that some here would have you believe.

Would be interesting to see how AWB would have improved if he had the same time Dalot was given to start the season.
Seriously? Even looking at 20 minutes of dalot yesterday and it was a clear difference. It's not edging it at all, there is a vast difference between them.
 
It's not a contest, Dalot is an excellent all round full back and is better than Wan Bissaka at everything (by a fair distance) apart from slide tackling which Wan Bissaka is elite at TBF. Off the ball defending, everything on the ball and going forward, aerial duels, positioning... All Dalot.

Dalot is without a doubt for me our long term right back. No hesitation. It's huge as well that he benched Cancelo for Portugal as well. He's just very good and it's time for people to recognize him as such.

Wan Bissaka is good cover, but we will probably replace him before long.

AWB has more pace too, tbf.

But broadly yes, there's enough of a gap between them that I'm bemused to see this is even a thread.
 
There’s no competition here.

Dalot is in different league as far as I’m concerned.
 
Seriously? Even looking at 20 minutes of dalot yesterday and it was a clear difference. It's not edging it at all, there is a vast difference between them.
Dalot is not nearly as good as you think he is and AWB isn't as bad as you think he is.

I'm all for people preferring Dalot's type of right back for us but both playing at their best there is really nothing in it.

Dalot is a good RB, he doesn't really excel at anything, I don't particularly see a high ceiling for him. AWB has shown potential to be excellent defensively but will always have question marks about his offensive game. They're both solid to good options.

It woulf be worth remembering the opinions of Dalot on here this time last year. He managed to turn that around one game at a time, I don't see why AWB can't do the same considering he was the better player until 2022.
 
Dalot is not nearly as good as you think he is and AWB isn't as bad as you think he is.

I'm all for people preferring Dalot's type of right back for us but both playing at their best there is really nothing in it.

Dalot is a good RB, he doesn't really excel at anything, I don't particularly see a high ceiling for him. AWB has shown potential to be excellent defensively but will always have question marks about his offensive game. They're both solid to good options.
There are loads of question marks surrounding AWB defensively. A good 3 games against lesser opposition doesn't ignore the overwhelmingly abject 3 years he's had here.
 
I prefer AWB in a defensive situation, and prefer Dalot in an attacking situation. I disagree with people in this thread who said Dalot is better defensively - AWB does some fantastic last ditch tackles and clearances.

I was surprised to see that it's actually Dalot who is better defensively, according to the stats at least. I, too, often marvel at some of AWB's interceptions and think he's a brilliant defender. But it would seem Dalot is able to defend slightly more consistently than The Spider, without the drama.
 
If Bissaka could learn when and how to put crosses in he would be a good right fullback. Right now he just dosen't seem to know what to do with the ball and just gets nervous every time in the last third of the pitch. Right now, Dalot is better overall player even if I think Bissaka is better as a defender.

However, I do see some improvement in his last games.
 
There are loads of question marks surrounding AWB defensively. A good 3 games against lesser opposition doesn't ignore the overwhelmingly abject 3 years he's had here.
Overwhelmingly abject 3 years? He had a very good first season, average second season and terrible third.

This year he's had fitness problems but is looking decent again after a run of games.

The AWB haters on here might be the worst. It's just straight hatred and dishonesty regarding his performances. If he plays well he gets backhanded compliments, but if he has even just an average game the knives will be out calling him every name under the sun.
 
Dalot, but AWB has made some huge strides under ETH already. He definitely looks more comfortable with the ball at his feet. Passing and dribbling in tight spaces has looked remarkably better, when he used to look allergic to the ball. His positioning is still suspect, but he certainly looks a better player than he did under Ole and RR.

That said, I still think we could improve on both at RB. Whilst they're both decent options at their best, neither are top class.
 
Overwhelmingly abject 3 years? He had a very good first season, average second season and terrible third.

This year he's had fitness problems but is looking decent again after a run of games.

The AWB haters on here might be the worst. It's just straight hatred and dishonesty regarding his performances. If he plays well he gets backhanded compliments, but if he has even just an average game the knives will be out calling him every name under the sun.

Yes, calling him defensively weak is the new trend. Apparently losing few back post headers means FB is weak defensively.
 
Dalot vs AWB is a easy choice, at least for now. Dalot has been very good, AWB did well too but Dalot is better RB for us.
 
I prefer AWB in a defensive situation, and prefer Dalot in an attacking situation. I disagree with people in this thread who said Dalot is better defensively - AWB does some fantastic last ditch tackles and clearances.

I'd like to have both, personally, and for us to make use of them appropriately depending on the opposition. I'm not a fan of only having one option in a position. Dalot would be the default, but AWB has earned his right to start some games and, in a situation where we need more a faster player with more stamina on the RB role, we can switch in AWB appropriately.

As you said, last ditch tackles. AWB is brilliant one on one - arguably one of the best around. His positional play however is sometimes downright atrocious. His heading ability is also very strange, and he is prone to losing his man in the box.

One on one, Dalot is not as good, but his positional sense in defense is much better. He is also far superior in the air.

In terms of pace, I think Dalot would win over AWB in a foot race.
 
Yes, calling him defensively weak is the new trend. Apparently losing few back post headers means FB is weak defensively.
Weird you don’t even mention his biggest defensive issue, balls in behind him to a winger he’s paying no attention to (something Bournemouth were even looking to attack numerous times yesterday, biggest example of which was obviously the game in Leipzig).

Wan-Bissaka isn’t good enough, he impressed in his first few months here and this current mini run is easily the best he’s played since then. Dalot is a significantly better full back than him and that is showing no sign of changing.
 
Unpopular opinion but I think Van Bissaka has never been poor in attack. He has a good first touch, is decent in tight spaces, doesn't give the ball away and is a good dribbler and a decent crosser of the ball. He has delivered when going forward and suffers from not pleasing the eyes with the way he runs.

Defensively he's suspect with his positioning, but it is impossible to beat one on one. I don't agree that AvB has improved. He's always been playing like this and is a very consistent footballer.
 
Yes, calling him defensively weak is the new trend. Apparently losing few back post headers means FB is weak defensively.
He's also had a habit of switching off, not tracking his runner and jogging back from last season.
 
Yes, calling him defensively weak is the new trend. Apparently losing few back post headers means FB is weak defensively.
He's not weak but at some point earlier on his defending was certainly way overrated because of one skill that he's truly exceptional at — tackling. He was much better at it since his return, so who knows, maybe those problems are past him, but he had serious issues with his positioning and also with his defensive discipline (especially tracking back after the change in possession). So it was a natural trend — when an overrated player gets exposed, he usually becomes underrated.
 
Exactly. That and the eye test says Dalot easily. Even defensively this season he has been immense compared to before. Ronaldo called him a mentality monster like Martinez and Casemiro and you can see it in him now that the confidence is there. Preferred to Cancelo in latter matches for Portugal in WC and didn’t put a foot wrong. Finally fulfilling his promise.
All these people saying AwB are some serious knee-jerkers, bloody hell.

Dalot has been immense defensively, especially with some of his headed clearances and has played 3 games in a week sometimes before the WC.

Ffs, EtH had banished AwB to the shadow realm before being told there's no cash for a proper RB deputy. The memory of some fans is really comparable to a mayfly sometimes.
 
Dalot for sure, but it is great AWB is playing well and providing competition for Dalot. Also, have to be happy for AWB after a tough run., good stuff.
 
Next 2 PL matches against City and Arsenal will show the reality of our fullbacks and how far as a team we had developed from last season debacle.
 
I’ll choose Dalot on current form just
AWB is too good to be a back up though
Can play them both against City and Arsenal though with Dalot as a right winger
 
Unpopular opinion but I think Van Bissaka has never been poor in attack. He has a good first touch, is decent in tight spaces, doesn't give the ball away and is a good dribbler and a decent crosser of the ball. He has delivered when going forward and suffers from not pleasing the eyes with the way he runs.

Defensively he's suspect with his positioning, but it is impossible to beat one on one. I don't agree that AvB has improved. He's always been playing like this and is a very consistent footballer.
Dalot is a lot more composed and creative on the ball and he will always be a better fit to this system than Wan Bissaka. AWB isn't bad on the ball, he's actually quite good at keeping possession, it's just he's very "robotic" and not a natural attacker. He will drive to the end of the pitch and deliver a cross, but I much prefer Dalot overall offensive game.

AWB biggest weakness is positioning and defending the back post, I have much more confidence with Dalot in dealing with those long balls. But I still think AWB will have his uses this, and possibly next season (we really need to consider if we can find better RBs and which one to get rid off, who can accept being a regular sub etc.).