AWB is just brilliant 1 v 1 and Dalot isn't brilliant at anything really. AWB for me.
Dalot vs Wan-Bissaka
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Keep both and let this manager continue to coach them. While ASM was a threat, if I remember correctly there was a ball played in the first half where Dalot got his head to it and thought to myself maybe if that was AWB, he doesn't read that. Hard to question the manager's decision in starting either right now. What is great is that manager can start with one way of thinking to start, say for instance today, wanted to play more attacking so plays Dalot but, then see's that in this case ASM is having joy against him so brings on the more fresher and better 1v1 defender in Wan Bissaka. On Thursday it was somewhat opposite, wanted to keep it tight against a good Barca side and then needing to be more attacking, so brings on Dalot.
Neither have been coached that well since they've been here in improving their games but, what you can see with both is improvements made by this coach - Dalot has become better defensively, he wants to defend now and AWB is starting to improve going forward.
Neither have been coached that well since they've been here in improving their games but, what you can see with both is improvements made by this coach - Dalot has become better defensively, he wants to defend now and AWB is starting to improve going forward.
People slagging off Dalot in this thread or calling him average is very surprising to me? It feels like people have very short memories. Before his very recent injury, which he has just come back from, he was phenomenal at RB in both defending and attacking with multiple motm type performances - thats why AWB wasn’t getting a look in for a while since Dalot stepped up and became part of a very solid back 4, and why everyone was happy to sell AWB.
Granted he hasn’t played to that form yet since returning from injury but only felt like a few months ago people were calling him potentially world class and our mainstay at RB for the future and now he’s bang average again? So reactionary here
Granted he hasn’t played to that form yet since returning from injury but only felt like a few months ago people were calling him potentially world class and our mainstay at RB for the future and now he’s bang average again? So reactionary here
AWB - better at defending.
Dalot - better going forward.
Neither is great.
Dalot - better going forward.
Neither is great.
Unless we can get an absolute Worldie Right Back these 2 compliment each others games well. I’d actually be a little worried to get rid of either.
So what is it then - phenomenal or very solid? Or is it phenomenal that he is very solid?
I don't the hype around this guy. I'll happily give him that he wasn't shit in most games. And he had a couple where he was ok to good. But I don't know what some of you see to call him phenomenal? I mean, we had guys like Evra, Neville, Irvine. In our league we have the likes of TAA, R. James, Trippier, Walker - what are they if Dalot is phenomenal?!
Hardly.
And even if - not like AWB is setting a very high bar, isn't he?
Dalot is still the better technician but Wan Bissaka is in the form of his career right now and you have to say is currently the better option.
Hakimi would do nicely.
AWB is deceptively good going forward, with his movement and dribbling in tight spaces. You're guaranteed to find him at least once or twice a game in a dangerous position in the opposing box, where you might expect a striker or winger to be. He usually ends up picking a safe pass but that can be coached.
I voted Dalot but I absolutely want to keep AWB. It's so valuable having two RBs who bring different things to the table. AWB was immense today.
Dalot all the way, you cant play properly with AWB, in that scenario there is higher chance for Dalot to be replaced.
All Dalot has bought recently is dribbling and an occasional long shot.
He was great at the start of the season but not at it now.
Again, for me a sign of fans rating technical ability a bit too highly.
When Dalot is playing with the intensity and concentration he was at the start of the season then he can have that position back IMO.
He was great at the start of the season but not at it now.
Again, for me a sign of fans rating technical ability a bit too highly.
When Dalot is playing with the intensity and concentration he was at the start of the season then he can have that position back IMO.
Didn't he put in that great cross for Rashford's fist goal vs. Leeds?
Can’t remember to be honest. Maybe he did.
Anyway, I think Ten Hag will pick his fullback’s depending on his tactics - he has two solid defensive players in AWB & Malacia and two attacking players in Dalot & Shaw.
So even if Wan Bissaka is the better fullback overall at the moment and deserves his spot - then it won’t really matter because it will be down to ten Hag’s tactical need between a defensive and attacking one.
Just feel like Dalot has lost some energy post World Cup.
Brilliant options to have both of them. Just play them according to the situation, why the bed to have a first choice to begin with. Maybe there should be no more first choice players in the team
Didn’t think I’d be saying this at the start of the season but AWB has been brilliant and suddenly a new right back doesn’t feel essential anymore. he deserves a shot.
I think it's too simple to see Dalot as the attacking option and AWB as the defensive option. They're pretty different players, who contribute in different ways both on and off the ball - with strengths and limitations both offensively and defensively. The main thing right now is that Dalot is clearly not back to the level he was playing at before and during the World Cup. When he is, he's simply a better player than AWB, both offensively and defensively. But AWB is certainly back to a level where he can play, and play well too. Right now, he might be the safer option.
IMO, AWB is the better RB now in term of both defending and attacking. It feel safer with him there. Today was clear for all to see. Dalot is a good backup now. Happy to have 2 very good RB.
Both are hugely improved and have contributed this season, exceeding expectations. Comfortable with keeping them both and focussing on other areas this summer, primarily striker and central midfield.
Overall I prefer Dalot as a footballer, but I don't think he settled down well since returning after injury.
Wan Bissaka is really good these days and as a specialist he's top RB against wingers.
I think we're good with them for next season, we have bigger priorities.
Wan Bissaka is really good these days and as a specialist he's top RB against wingers.
I think we're good with them for next season, we have bigger priorities.
Imo Dalot is suffering a bit from inconsistent game time after his injury + the chop and change for those who play in front of him. Was building up a really good understanding with Antony where the latter puts in a huge shift defensively and he find himself regularly on the overlap and can focus more on the offensive part of the game.
AWB is playing well and his athleticism really helps when the team's energy level has flagged a bit in recent weeks due to the schedule.
AWB is playing well and his athleticism really helps when the team's energy level has flagged a bit in recent weeks due to the schedule.
I don't think there's much in it - for good and bad.
Both are improving and are currently 'decent', but still with limitations to their game. But, between them, they're good enough - depending on what we need our RB to do each game - for it not to be a major weakness. But it is one of the areas of the pitch that you could definitely name options who would be upgrades for us. But clearly nowhere near as important an area to address as the #9 position.
For me, currently, I've a little more faith in AWB. Especially in the bigger games, where we need to do more defending. Both get up the pitch well. Neither offer great attacking threat in terms of end product but Dalot is a little better technically and can link up more in attacks. Although AWB is showing signs of improving.
But I don't think Dalot offers enough attacking threat to make up for the fact that he's weaker in defence than AWB. So I've got a little more faith in AWB for the big games as I think he's a slightly better 'defensive-minded RB' than Dalot is an 'attack-minded RB'.
But neither are 'complete' RB's yet, able to contribute effectively and consistently at both ends of the pitch. So there's still room for improvement. But ETH has certainly improved both already and they're heading in the right direction so hopefully at least one will get there and establish themselves as a top quality RB in time.
Both are improving and are currently 'decent', but still with limitations to their game. But, between them, they're good enough - depending on what we need our RB to do each game - for it not to be a major weakness. But it is one of the areas of the pitch that you could definitely name options who would be upgrades for us. But clearly nowhere near as important an area to address as the #9 position.
For me, currently, I've a little more faith in AWB. Especially in the bigger games, where we need to do more defending. Both get up the pitch well. Neither offer great attacking threat in terms of end product but Dalot is a little better technically and can link up more in attacks. Although AWB is showing signs of improving.
But I don't think Dalot offers enough attacking threat to make up for the fact that he's weaker in defence than AWB. So I've got a little more faith in AWB for the big games as I think he's a slightly better 'defensive-minded RB' than Dalot is an 'attack-minded RB'.
But neither are 'complete' RB's yet, able to contribute effectively and consistently at both ends of the pitch. So there's still room for improvement. But ETH has certainly improved both already and they're heading in the right direction so hopefully at least one will get there and establish themselves as a top quality RB in time.
I don't think its matters whos better. They're both good at different things and can be subbed into the game at different points to get the best from them. Excellent problem to have, rotating the two of them.
Dalot is barely a better defender than Trent. He is definitely better going forward than AWB, but as defenders they are leagues apart.
Dalot a jack of all trades and master of none and AWB is a top defender and has world class attributes in that aspect. As a back up RB I'd choose the latter.
Christ people don't half flip flop around week to week. Knee jerk city.
AWB was brought on to do a job, we know he excels in these type of duels. Whether that's enough to keep him at the club long term I don't know. I just see a manager using the tools at his disposal. They aren't necessarily ideal tools for the way he sees us moving forward but it's what he has and it can be used.
It doesn't eradicate all the deficiencies AWB has technically, if you want to be a dominant side. Dalot probably needs to pick it up as well long term. The manager always says good is not good enough, and Dalot is best described as good, rarely great.
AWB was brought on to do a job, we know he excels in these type of duels. Whether that's enough to keep him at the club long term I don't know. I just see a manager using the tools at his disposal. They aren't necessarily ideal tools for the way he sees us moving forward but it's what he has and it can be used.
It doesn't eradicate all the deficiencies AWB has technically, if you want to be a dominant side. Dalot probably needs to pick it up as well long term. The manager always says good is not good enough, and Dalot is best described as good, rarely great.
The real victory here is that we could quite easily use either next season and focus on strengthening other areas first. Short of a top class right back being available and it not affecting our budget for those other areas obviously.
I like AWB though, especially in these tough duels where he often comes out on top. It would be nice if he could have an upwards trajectory and address his current weak points.
I like AWB though, especially in these tough duels where he often comes out on top. It would be nice if he could have an upwards trajectory and address his current weak points.
Hope ETH can further improve AWB especially on attacking play. He is already a beast defensively and once he improve on attacking play we will have top class player in both full backs position, LB-Shaw and RB-AWB.
This is where I am and why I'm not voting. Best part is, we have them both and ETH is showing us how to use them.
Don't forget we have Ethan coming back next season. He's been playing as a right back for QPR not a wing back
Good to have both. They can rotate as required.
I'm glad we've got 2 RB that are playing well, and ETH used the both with great effect. For out and out defending it's AWB, though he's improved going forward of late , Dalot when we can dominate possession he's the better one, and his crosses are better.
Both. Play them depending on the opponent or match situation.
Now mostly Right foot players are played in left wing and left foot players in right wing. Currently left wing of most teams are their strongest attacking outlet. For example: Transfermarkt lists 30m€ or more players - 17 Right wingers vs 32 Left wingers
Teams which has Rightbacks who are good in attack but weak in defense gets shown up in big games. Having both AWB and Dalot gives the flexibility to the manager to change in match situation.
Now mostly Right foot players are played in left wing and left foot players in right wing. Currently left wing of most teams are their strongest attacking outlet. For example: Transfermarkt lists 30m€ or more players - 17 Right wingers vs 32 Left wingers
Teams which has Rightbacks who are good in attack but weak in defense gets shown up in big games. Having both AWB and Dalot gives the flexibility to the manager to change in match situation.
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Need to sell Dalot and keep AWB and then bring in another attacking RB. Obviously, AWB isn't he greatest going forward, but there will always be a place on a squad for a player like AWB who can come in and lock down a dynamic LW.
Still prefer AWB. He has done well when called upon. He was frozen out of the squad. Would not blame him if he wants to leave. But happy with him.
Dalot seems to have regressed. Probably still not at his best his injury. Sucks as we have games every 3 days.
Dalot seems to have regressed. Probably still not at his best his injury. Sucks as we have games every 3 days.
At the rate AWB is improving, he may well end this as a contest unless Dalot himself picks up the baton and continues his own development.
I thought Dalot was toast before ETH came in then OMG what a difference, I thought AWB was done and gone under ETH then out of nowhere boom.... got to say if we need a defender to defend than AWB all the way, Dalot offers more in attack so it would be game by game, horses for courses, a nice dilemma to have.
It is fair to say that AWB has improved in attack and Dalot has improved defensively, neither is the complete player, but both have shown more than enough this season to mean that buying a new RB can be pushed down the list of priorities
It is fair to say that AWB has improved in attack and Dalot has improved defensively, neither is the complete player, but both have shown more than enough this season to mean that buying a new RB can be pushed down the list of priorities
AWB wasn't very good in a defensive job vs Barca, everybody here seems to be ignoring that.
Both bang average players who don't have the game required to be a United first teamer.
Never ceases to amaze me how many stupid takes there are like this.
Here are the 25 most expensive RBs 25 and under according to Transfermarkt:
| Player | Date of birth / Age | Nat. | Club | Height | Market value |
| Reece James | Dec 8, 1999 (23) | England | Chelsea FC | 1,80 | €70.00m |
| Achraf Hakimi | Nov 4, 1998 (24) | Morocco | Paris Saint-Germain | 1,81 | €70.00m |
| Trent Alexander-Arnold | Oct 7, 1998 (24) | England | Liverpool FC | 1,80 | €70.00m |
| Ben White | Oct 8, 1997 (25) | England | Arsenal FC | 1,86 | €45.00m |
| Diogo Dalot | Mar 18, 1999 (23) | Portugal | Manchester United | 1,83 | €32.00m |
| Emerson Royal | Jan 14, 1999 (24) | Brazil | Tottenham Hotspur | 1,83 | €30.00m |
| Noussair Mazraoui | Nov 14, 1997 (25) | Morocco | Bayern Munich | 1,83 | €28.00m |
| Pedro Porro | Sep 13, 1999 (23) | Spain | Tottenham Hotspur | 1,73 | €25.00m |
| Tino Livramento | Nov 12, 2002 (20) | England | Southampton FC | 1,73 | €25.00m |
| Jeremie Frimpong | Dec 10, 2000 (22) | Netherlands | Bayer 04 Leverkusen | 1,71 | €25.00m |
| Juan Foyth | Jan 12, 1998 (25) | Argentina | Villarreal CF | 1,87 | €25.00m |
| James Justin | Feb 23, 1998 (25) | England | Leicester City | 1,83 | €25.00m |
| Kyle Walker-Peters | Apr 13, 1997 (25) | England | Southampton FC | 1,73 | €25.00m |
| Takehiro Tomiyasu | Nov 5, 1998 (24) | Japan | Arsenal FC | 1,88 | €25.00m |
| Matty Cash | Aug 7, 1997 (25) | Poland | Aston Villa | 1,85 | €22.00m |
| Nahuel Molina | Apr 6, 1998 (24) | Argentina | Atlético de Madrid | 1,75 | €22.00m |
| Nordi Mukiele | Nov 1, 1997 (25) | France | Paris Saint-Germain | 1,87 | €20.00m |
| Vanderson | Jun 21, 2001 (21) | Brazil | AS Monaco | 1,73 | €18.00m |
| Neco Williams | Apr 13, 2001 (21) | Wales | Nottingham Forest | 1,83 | €18.00m |
| Aaron Wan-Bissaka | Nov 26, 1997 (25) | England | Manchester United | 1,83 | €18.00m |
| Max Aarons | Jan 4, 2000 (23) | England | Norwich City | 1,71 | €18.00m |
| Dodô | Nov 17, 1998 (24) | Brazil | ACF Fiorentina | 1,66 | €17.00m |
| Sergiño Dest | Nov 3, 2000 (22) | United States | AC Milan | 1,71 | €16.00m |
| Malo Gusto | May 19, 2003 (19) | France | Olympique Lyon | 1,79 | €15.00m |
| Tariq Lamptey | Sep 30, 2000 (22) | Ghana | Brighton & Hove Albion | 1,63 | €15.00m |
Who are you signing then genius?