Daley Blind - Deal Confirmed

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J-Stander said:
We're signing the Dutch Cleverley :nervous:
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Dutch Cleverley that was Ajax's player of the year even when Eriksen was there, was voted Dutch footballer of the year in 2013/ 2014, played really well vs Barcelona in the 2-1 win last season and vs City/ Dortmund before that, scored 1 and assisted 3 under Van Gaal's guidance in the biggest football competition in the world. ;)

DeMono said:
It was joke. Secondly, he is 3rd/4th choice and that is a fact.

I would love to hear what you think of Blind.
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How is it a fact that he's 3rd/ 4th choice ? Who was our first/ second choice cover at LB and for squad depth please do tell ? You do know that our backup to Shaw is young Reese James (a player who has no prior first team experience) if Rojo is to play regularly at LCB. Cleverley will likely leave. Which leaves us with 33 year old Carrick, Fletcher who hasn't played regular football in 3 seasons and already looks exhausted, Anderson about whom the less we speak the better and Fellaini who isn't half as tactically astute or intelligent in possession as Blind is. Just don't get the opposition to Blind's signing when the market isn't even closed yet and there could realistically be a couple of first team additions in midfield and defense. Maybe you need a bit of a lie-down.
 
Invictus said:
How is it a fact that he's 3rd/ 4th choice ? Who was our first/ second choice cover at LB and for squad depth please do tell ? You do know that our backup to Shaw is young Reese James (a player who has no prior first team experience) if Rojo is to play regularly at LCB. Cleverley will likely leave. Which leaves us with 33 year old Carrick, Fletcher who hasn't played regular football in 3 seasons and already looks exhausted, Anderson about whom the less we speak the better and Fellaini who isn't half as tactically astute or intelligent in possession as Blind is. Just don't get the opposition to Blind's signing when the market isn't even closed yet and there could realistically be a couple of first team additions in midfield and defense. Maybe you need a bit of a lie-down.
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He is coming here as DM/CM. He is not a LB. We also have Rojo as cover for Shaw.
 
Better option than the dross we've had in midfield for years even if he's not "world class". If you're not happy about this signing, especially for £14million, then you know nothing.....jon snow
 
Dutch fans rate him but circumspect really as he wasn't really a standout talent ever. And Ajax fans think the fee is good.

And tbf, Dutch fans were circumspect about Strootman last season as well when he moved after a average season.
 
DeMono said:
At the end of the day, Blind is a decent signing. I am misconstrued, I am just saying that if Blind is the only midfielder coming in-it is very underwhelming as we need a world class midfielder.
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you wanted a thread title change to Daley Blind 4th choice or something like that, that is clear for everyone.
 
He's going to get stick just because he might be our last signing of the window and he's not another mega signing. LVG is rebuilding a squad here, he can't snap his fingers and fix it all in one window but what he can do is identify weakness in the squad and look to improve it incrementally. Blind improves our squad immediately, he might continue to improve as a player training at a higher level and the price is reasonable in todays market.
 
FromTheBench said:
Dutch fans rate him but circumspect really as he wasn't really a standout talent ever.

And tbf, Dutch fans were circumspect about Strootman last season as well when he moved after a average season.
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I remember quite a few people on here didn't want Strootman. Now those same people want us to sign him.
 
Ramshock said:
http://afootballreport.com/post/72079101700/reinvented-by-de-boer-ajaxs-daley-blind
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Took some of the stuff on Blind's game;

He’s been ever-present at left-back since making his debut against Italy in February 2013. Van Gaal, who still views Blind as his “first choice”, recognises the “number six” role is his true position.
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No position typifies it more than the controller (see Frank Rijkaard), but Busquets is an up to date version, one that has since been pivotal to De Boer realising his objectives which is to dominate games through possession: circulation football as a means to not only create goal scoring opportunities but also a defensive weapon. If you have the ball the opposition can’t harm you. Blind is equally of most value – if not crucial – when out of possession as he would instigate Ajax’s pressing game (or ‘pressure play’): making the pitch as small as possible (compressing and closing down all space), enabling them to retain possession and win the ball back at times mercilessly more often than not by provoking their opponents into making a mistake.
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His familiarity in the role and Ajax’s modern interpretation of totaalvoetbal (modified by Johan Cruyff and Louis van Gaal, which De Boer has gradually re-implemented) has made his assimilation smooth. His energy and discipline has become the kernel around which the rest of the side’s panache is constructed. In the role Blind is essentially a ‘third centre-back’ – dropping between the central defenders – and conductor rolled into one. He’s tasked with retaining and recycling possession: averaging 68.6 passes, 2.1 tackles and 2 interceptions per game.
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Blind, who often operates as single-minded man-marker – normally designated to do a job on the opposition’s playmaker – shuttles across the pitch following the ball once with it his impeccable metronomic passing and grandiose football intelligence triggers their positional game/ Ajax in possession morph into a 2-3-2-3, one-touch combination football is second nature to them. In the Eredivisie their pass accuracy (86.8%) and average possession (62.9%) is ranked first (stats from WhoScored.com). He dictates the tempo: whether Ajax needs to slow things down or raise it. This also depends how high up the pitch they are.
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Ramshock said:
Your mate is former Bayern Munich and Celtic player Edson Braafheid who now plays for Lazio?
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No, he's not my mate, Braafheid was a Van Gaal signing at Bayern. The Bayern fans can tell you what a success he was.

If someone gives their opinion on said player that doesn't mean we should ignore it because Van Gaal knows better.
 
Means to an end.

I dont understand people turning their noses up,yeah we are still at least another midfielder short,but with Carrick,Herrera and Blind we have 3 actual midfielders of some quality who fit the same ethos and should click in what ever pairing they line out.

Delighted with this signing actually.
 
Bojan11 said:
Yeah it's been a underwhelming summer with only Di Maria, Shaw and Herrera. Three players a lot of the caf would have taken at the start of the summer.
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I hope you're not assuming I think we've had a bad transfer window, because we haven't. It's been one of the best in ages. However, you can't deny we need to sign at least one more centre back and a centre mid. At least.
 
LennonNL said:
He was quite average at the World Cup, and apparently he's not the best player in the world for Ajax. I suppose I'd be content with this signing based on Van Gaal being the one who's signing him, but we could definitely do much better, just like with Rojo.
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We could? So why did our manager buy them? Because he doesnt know what he is doing?
 
Same people writing Blind off now because he isn't a fancy name now probably did the same for Strootman at the beginning of last season. If he comes give him a chance, I'm sure Van Gaal knows more how well Blind fits United than some of the armchair critics here.
 
Invictus said:
Dutch Cleverley that was Ajax's player of the year even when Eriksen was there, was voted Dutch footballer of the year in 2013/ 2014, played really well vs Barcelona in the 2-1 win last season and vs City/ Dortmund before that, scored 1 and assisted 3 under Van Gaal's guidance in the biggest football competition in the world. ;)
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I was only kidding. Potentially selling cleverley for 8-9m and getting this guy for 14m is good business IMO.
 
DeMono said:
He is coming here as DM/CM. He is not a LB. We also have Rojo as cover for Shaw.
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Well I'm glad you had a word with Van Gaal to clarify Blind's position when he played at LB and LCB for the entirety of the World Cup and during qualification under Louis. ;)

Also, what if Evans/ Smalling/ Jones are injured in the near future as they inevitably are. Would Rojo be backup to Shaw or pay in central defense ? I just don't get it. We have major weaknesses in midfield and defense in terms of strength of depth and Blind will remedy that. 14 million is hardly a prohibitive price. Yet you're throwing a strop as if it's doomsday and there'll be no further signings beyond Blind as Van Gaal proclaims him our messiah. We can't just make all glitzy signings while ignoring players who're satisfied coming off the bench or in emergency situations when regular first teamers are injured.
 
Adnan said:
No, he's not my mate, Braafheid was a Van Gaal signing at Bayern. The Bayern fans can tell you what a success he was.

If someone gives their opinion on said player that doesn't mean we should ignore it because Van Gaal knows better.
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Braafhied really? Shall we list the players he brought through to go up against Braafhied?
 
Blind is nothing special but he'll do. Already better than most of the midfielders at United anyway.

We could be looking at this in a few games time:

------------DDG---------
--Jones-Smalling-Rojo--
Rafael--------------Shaw
----Blind-----Herrera----
----------Mata------------
---Di Maria--Rooney/RVP

Looks good on paper...
 
izec said:
you wanted a thread title change to Daley Blind 4th choice or something like that, that is clear for everyone.
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Big clubs like us have a list for each position in transfer windows. Each list will have 5-6 players, who are very good and meet the needs of such a big club like united. You have to understand that. What ever player we get on that list will be very good anyway, but as go down the list the less likely that player is world class. So, although he is third/forth choice, he is still decent like I said before.
 
Ramshock said:
We could? So why did our manager buy them? Because he doesnt know what he is doing?
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You tell me. Time will tell whether they're good signings or not.
Van Gaal has openly said he signed Rojo because he played well against him in the World Cup, and I assume he was happy with Blind's performances for his Dutch team too.

Are you saying we couldn't sign a better centre back and centre mid than Rojo and Blind?
 
Winrar said:
Same people writing Blind off now because he isn't a fancy name now probably did the same for Strootman at the beginning of last season. If he comes give him a chance, I'm sure Van Gaal knows more how well Blind fits United than some of the armchair critics here.
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Yep they did. Blind is this years Strootman. The same was done with Konoplyanka rumours because you know good footballers only come from a select few countries
 
Still better than Cleverly Fletcher combined so I'm happy with it. Then again two chimpanzees in midfield would have been more effective last Sunday than Cleverly and Fletcher. And I like him. And like many he's definitely got plenty of potential to improve.
 
LennonNL said:
You tell me. Time will tell whether they're good signings or not.
Van Gaal has openly said he signed Rojo because he played well against him in the World Cup, and I assume he was happy with Blind's performances for his Dutch team too.

Are you saying we couldn't sign a better centre back and centre mid than Rojo and Blind?
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Well we havent so far, do people not listen to LvG's interviews? Doesnt have to be a superstar to fit in his team does it?
 
Invictus said:
Well I'm glad you had a word with Van Gaal to clarify Blind's position when he played at LB and LCB for the entirety of the World Cup and during qualification under Louis. ;)

Also, what if Evans/ Smalling/ Jones are injured in the near future as they inevitably are. Would Rojo be backup to Shaw or pay in central defense ? I just don't get it. We have major weaknesses in midfield and defense in terms of strength of depth and Blind will remedy that. 14 million is hardly a prohibitive price. Yet you're throwing a strop as if it's doomsday and there'll be no further signings beyond Blind as Van Gaal proclaims him our messiah. We can't just make all glitzy signings while ignoring players who're satisfied coming off the bench or in emergency situations when regular first teamers are injured.
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PLease read about Blind first and his transition to changing position to a CM.

http://www.benefoot.net/love-is-blind-profiling-ajax-dutch-stalwart-daley-blind/

http://afootballreport.com/post/72079101700/reinvented-by-de-boer-ajaxs-daley-blind
 
I suppose it would be too much to hope that the arrival of another player who can play LWB (to some degree at least) might mean the end of Ashley Young's time at United?

If you think of Blind as potentially playing instead of both Cleverley and Young it really does seem like a positive step.
 
Bojan11 said:
£14m isn't bad. Worth the risk.
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It's fabulous given what we've been spending. An intelligent tacticalyl aware utility player with experience who was PotY in Holland and can play Carrick's role both as a DM and a (weak :lol:) CB. In addition he can cover LB too as we saw in Holland.
 
sullydnl said:
I suppose it would be too much to hope that the arrival of another player who can play LWB (to some degree at least) might mean the end of Ashley Young's time at United?

If you think of Blind as potentially playing instead of both Cleverley and Young it really does seem like a positive step.
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Don't forget Fellaini too.
 
LennonNL said:
You tell me. Time will tell whether they're good signings or not.
Van Gaal has openly said he signed Rojo because he played well against him in the World Cup, and I assume he was happy with Blind's performances for his Dutch team too.

Are you saying we couldn't sign a better centre back and centre mid than Rojo and Blind?
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He didn't say that. He said he was impressed by the footage he watched of Rojo before the game ie. performances for club and country.
 
Is everyone convinced he is our last bit of business now then?

To me, it seems more likely we could have stepped this up as we have accepted bids for Cleverley and Kagawa.

LVG is moving old players on and replacing them. I can still see us making another "big one" though before the deadline. Just have a little feeling.
 
Dylan94 said:
Still better than Cleverly Fletcher combined so I'm happy with it. Then again two chimpanzees in midfield would have been more effective last Sunday than Cleverly and Fletcher. And I like him. And like many he's definitely got plenty of potential to improve.
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Not only that but he is a DM! He will free up Herrera and Mata and control passing to Di Maria. He is exactly what we need. Just maybe the name many do not want. Probably because he is shite on Fifa as that's where most "itk" fans seem to get their knowledge from nowadays.
 
TheReligion said:
Is everyone convinced he is our last bit of business now then?

To me, it seems more likely we could have stepped this up as we have accepted bids for Cleverley and Kagawa.

LVG is moving old players on and replacing them. I can still see us making another "big one" though before the deadline. Just have a little feeling.
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I reckon we'll see a couple more. I think we need a wide player as our genuine wide options are limited. I like the look of Depay. Then another midfielder perhaps, as we're obviously weak there.
 
TheReligion said:
Is everyone convinced he is our last bit of business now then?

To me, it seems more likely we could have stepped this up as we have accepted bids for Cleverley and Kagawa.

LVG is moving old players on and replacing them. I can still see us making another "big one" though before the deadline. Just have a little feeling.
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No absolutely not. With all the players expected to leave, i am sure we will try at least for another player, maybe 2 if we are encouraged by the agent/club.
 
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