Daley Blind - Deal Confirmed
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i think the term world class is thrown far too often around.They were never potentially world class or rated that.
Thanks, I needed that.
Did we? Why aren't we moving for him then? He'd be a good buy too.
I think Sporting were asking for £37 million. He was also a Moyes target, and perhaps LVG prefers someone else (I'm thinking Strootman).
An intelligent player who can do the job his manager expects from him. tactically aware and technically better than many players we have in our team at the moment. Utility signing. we need another CM.
I'd just like to say that no-one has a f*cking clue what Blind's potential ceiling is. Especially not you or anyone else on here.
Look at the potential O'Shea shown during the 02-03 season. For whatever reason he did not develop much after that( I here is just too nice to become great) and if you saw Park at PSV you would be surprised he would end up just being used as a workhorse for us.
Well it looks like we could have got this deal done some time ago so there must be a reason why we have left it so late in the day?
It just seems telling that we have lodged an acceptable bid 24 hours after getting confirmation that we have solid interest in Cleverley, Kagawa, Welbeck, Hernandez etc. We can't let a large number of players leave without replacing them, and obviously all the replacements aren't going to be Di Maria signings.
LVG said the squad will look very different come Monday. I think there is more business to be done.
I guess either Van Gaal didn't fancy him or we didn't like the look of the price tag.Did we
Exactly. You lot, don't get it twisted as he is decent player. But, him being the only CM coming in the next few days is extremely underwhelming.
Agreed.
I think so too. I'd be very happy with Blind so long as Van Gaal doesn't think he is the answer to our midfield problems, which I don't reckon he does - meaning he's not really an alternative to centre mid targets we've possibly missed over the summer.
Has it escaped some people's attention that maybe one of the main reasons why he's being signed is simply because he understands LVG's system? He's an intelligent and technically astute player if not yet or ever a world beater.
Story is from Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf. They don't put their news stories from the next day online before midnight.
Guess Daily Mail got their hands on a newspaper/picture while they were printing them in Holland and broke the story on their site
Player like Wes Brown and John O'shea were worth more than being world class. It was through players like them that Man Utd have built their foundations.
But don't you think that's contradictory to your previous comments. On one hand you claim players like O'Shea, Park, Brown (bless them mind) contributed more than world class ones. Yet you simultaneously decry the signing of Blind (rather than world-class ones) when he's a a player of similar ilk (will probably never be world-class like those 3 - perhaps not Brown who was more talented) - but plays with determination, intelligence and is versatile). If 10 years down the line he has given solid performances like the ones mentioned, wouldn't the 15 million be money well spent in hindsight ?
dont hold your breath. imo its the last signing.
He will never win the Ballon d'Or but it looks like he's an intelligent player, can play in few positions and give everything.
I rather have him in midfield than Fletcher, Cleverley, Fellaini or Anderson
I rather have him in midfield than Fletcher, Cleverley, Fellaini or Anderson
I rather us sign quality players and teach them the system than to bring in average players who know the system.
@Adnan and his international collection of mates know better than LvG...seems legit
Never said they weren't valuable.
Just stop. Park wasn't just a workhorse for us, your statement is just ridiculous. They were never that good.
And those quality players will assume backup squad positions like Blind can when we desperately need depth behind the starters ?
Not only that but he might jump ahead of Young as back up at LWB. If you think of Blind in terms of the crap players we'll now see less of it really does make sense at 14m.
No, no, no. My past few posts I am saying he is a decent signing. No one is doubting his qualities, but he is not a world class signing that we should get. If Blind and another CM come in, then great. Blind as the only CM (apart from Herrera) coming is not good at all in coming 4th. Yes Di Maria can play there, but he will play as LW in majority of the time.
If have world beating midfield, then Blind would a great utility buy. However, as we have a below average midfielder-adding Blind is not going to improve us a lot, he will just be hanging around until someone gets injured. Do you see where I am coming from?
4 of the 5 LVG signings are lefties and it seems he wants Strootman next.
He sure loves them.
He sure loves them.
Just like everyone I've read the stories about how fantastically well Carvalho has played last season for Sporting, but he'd still be/have been a high-risk signing, certainly at 25M+.
After all, Carvalho has just had 1 great season in Portugal. Before that, his only foreign experience thus far was less than convincing.
I'm not saying Carvalho won't be a top player, but you have to be careful with players who suddenly excel in their home country.
Just over a year ago, the guy was struggling at the bottom of the Belgian league.
Yeah, in 3-5-2 this means now effectively we can offload both Young and Cleverley which makes up the fee and saves on wages with probably a improvement in both areas.
When Dutch fans had the opinion that Edson Braafheid wasn't good enough for Bayern were they wrong?
Never knew that, interesting.
Exactly. And you can't just load a team up with world class talent and expect them all to gel and produce magic on the pitch. Look at City. They have a good mix of world class experienced players and young talented players. And anyway there aren't many world class players that are currently available in this window side Vidal who we may or may not still get so we are looking at other good options. And Blind is one. I know he'll prove all the doubters wrong once he's been here for a few months.
Agreed. Everyone wants "poster boys" at every position but that's just Football Manager thinking.
Dutch player of the year, understands LVG's system, can play in multiple positions, reasonable price. I don't know what's not to like, especially since we're letting a lot of players leave.
He won't be playing there though because Shaw. Unless he gets injured again.
Completely agree.
Blind does not fit in either category.
I don't think anyone would deny that tbh but let's not view these signings in isolation but consider the circumstances under which Van Gaal arrived, he's come in to a broken team that has been stripped of it's leaders, he's arrived with half the window gone and the midfield and defence are down to bare bones. Remember that this is a man whose sole focus for the past two years has been Dutch players and their likely opponents, not the goings on of club football, so it is plausible that LvG has had to fall back on what he knows due to the lack of time to conduct proper scouting against the background of a team needing defensive and midfield reinforcements. What knows are Dutch players like Blind, opposition players he scouted for wc matches like Rojo, players with strong Ajax connections like Vermalaen and establised stars like Di Maria and Vidal. Come January and next summer he will know exactly who he wants but he is experienced enough to know that relying on the squad as it was will make it unlikely that he will survive that long, he's basically avoided doing a Moyes.
He's young and he's talented. And I see you declined to comment on the rest of my post because you know damn well that I'm right. Stick to playing fifa ultimate team or football manager.
Patience young padawan. Going by Van Gaal's comments of 'comings and goings' Blind won't be our last signing in midfield or defense (or atleast I hope so).
What we must understand is that ideally the club and the manager do realize Blind isn't the final solution. It's better to bring in a good (albeit not world-class or potentially world-class) player if all the other avenues of procuring top notch ones are based on varying percentages/ haven't come to fruition (yet). Better use a first aid kit for the time being than wait for full-on surgery while you bleed to death.
Blind is just one piece in the jigsaw. There will be more to come. If not in this window then in the next or in the summer beyond that. Van Gaal has a blueprint in place, he is a philosophy manager that will piece it all together but we need to grant him time even if it's seemingly utter poo in the beginning (just ask Caf's resident Bayern fans). So let's keep calm and trust in Van Gaal is all I can say. If he trusts Blind then we should have no cause to question the decision.
Add Milner to that list.
Neither does Milner, who cares?
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