Daley Blind - Deal Confirmed

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KiD MoYeS said:
This is the same type of snobbery we had last season. People throwing their noses up to Cabaye or McCarthy. This is how you build a strong squad: You take weak players like Anderson, Cleverley or Fletcher and replace them with stronger players like de Jong, Blind or McCarthy.
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Cabaye and McCarthy are both miles better than Blind though.

They are good players who would have improved us a fair bit. Blind is a mediocre player who would somewhat improve us (only during a severe injury crisis mind).
 
Empire said:
Gary and Jamie on Sky Sports are confused by United's pursuit of Blind since they cannot understand why they want another left sided centre back or LWB when they have just bought Rojo.

They then went onto say the problem is central midfield and they must address that first.

I thought Daley Blind was a central midfielder? If so, how can Jamie and Gary comment on a player they clearly have only watched in the World Cup..
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Don't suppose Ed Chamberlain told those two that Blind won player of the year in the Netherlands as a holding midfielder.
 
I wouldn't mind Daley Blind, rather have him than De Jong anyway. He reminds me of Owen Hargreaves in his play and adaptability.
 
A squad player, very similar to Carrick [style] and slow as feck. I've seen people who want us to sign him but don't want Khedira, this place is funny at times.
 
SonnyTheHaloPro said:
We don't need any more players to come in here and "do a job". We need quality in the midfield asap, not squad level players which Blind is. He's not better than Carrick who would be fine as a back up or starter, Fellaini is most likely better than him as well. So why on earth would we spend £15-£20million on this guy, who would be 3rd/4th choice in MF?

As a squad player he would have been fine, but Rojo can cover CB/LB anyway.
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Give me a break. Fellaini is only better than Blind when played further forward up the pitch, where he will never get game time at United. On no planet is he better than Blind as a CDM as we saw in basically every match last year when played in a deeper role. He simply isn't mobile or energetic enough to break up attacks and his positional play is awful which doesn't allow him to make up for his lack of energy in breaking up opposition attacks, or slowing them down enough for other players to get back and get in to solid defensive positions.

Look at most 3rd and 4th choice MF at clubs that we all want to United to match in quality. Real, Barca, Bayern, Chelsea, City, PSG, etc. all have 3rd or 4th choice MF players that cost around £15-20m sitting on their benches. Blind would be a vast improvement over the likes of Cleverley, Fellaini and Fletcher and provides the added utility of being able to cover other positions in case we are struggling with injuries.

I wouldn't expect us to sign Blind and feel our MF issues to be solved, but in combination with somebody like Vidal that would give us decent enough depth at CM. Carrick, Herrera, Vidal, Blind and Fletcher would be a solid enough set of CM's for a top-4 push with more reinforcements required to improve next year. He's not going to be a transformative player, but he would certainly help us get close to the kind of squad we ultimately want to have at our disposal and at 24 still has room for improvement and could be a valuable part of the squad for the foreseeable future.
 
AR87 said:
Look at most 3rd and 4th choice MF at clubs that we all want to United to match in quality. Real, Barca, Bayern, Chelsea, City, PSG, etc. all have 3rd or 4th choice MF players that cost around £15-20m sitting on their benches. Blind would be a vast improvement over the likes of Cleverley, Fellaini and Fletcher and provides the added utility of being able to cover other positions in case we are struggling with injuries.
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He is nowhere near as good as Khedira, Mascherano, Rode, Ramires, Fernando, Thiago Motta, etc. Heck he is probably not as good as the likes of Illaramendi, Song, Hojbjerg, Mikel, Milner, Rabiot. Blind is simply far from the quality we should be looking for. It is easy to say he would be an improvement on Cleverley and Fletcher since they are both having their worst form of their career but, it does not mean we have to go out and sign average players because it seems like they would be improvements on what we have.
 
Wouldn't mind seeing him here if we can get him for cheap. He can do a job for us.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
He is nowhere near as good as Khedira, Mascherano, Rode, Ramires, Fernando, Thiago Motta, etc. Heck he is probably not as good as the likes of Illaramendi, Song, Hojbjerg, Mikel, Milner, Rabiot. Blind is simply far from the quality we should be looking for. It is easy to say he would be an improvement on Cleverley and Fletcher since they are both having their worst form of their career but, it does not mean we have to go out and sign average players because it seems like they would be improvements on what we have.
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How often do you watch those players and Blind? I can't say familar with Rode, Fernando, Illaramendi, Jojbjerg or Rabiot so I won't say much about them, though Illaramendi cost far in excess of what Blind would. Song, Milner and Mikel have demonstrated nothing to me that makes me think they are a cut above what Blind would bring.

Mascherano and Ramires aren't CDM's. They are box-to-box players that do break up play, but aren't expected to sit back and shield the back 4.

Personally I'd rather go for Schneiderlin over any other potential CDM or Luiz Gustavo.

I'm not particularly attached to signing Blind, but I'll trust LVG's opinion of a player he's seen many times and managed personally over most opinions on here or my own as I doubt most of us are extremely familiar with how Blind plays exactly.
 
hobbers said:
Cabaye and McCarthy are both miles better than Blind though.

They are good players who would have improved us a fair bit. Blind is a mediocre player who would somewhat improve us (only during a severe injury crisis mind).
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You couldn't be further from the truth
 
Loublaze said:
You couldn't be further from the truth
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Well I've seen him for Holland and for Ajax. He's got no stand out qualities. And he's not really a utility player either, not in a top league. He has played at CB, but he's poor there in the Netherlands, so he'd be a disaster there in the Premier League. He's played as a wing back, but he's far too slow to play there in the Prem.

Even in CDM I don't think he has the control to handle the high pressing high tempo style. Since he's not good enough to play LWB or CB in the Prem, we'd be signing him as cover for Carrick as a holding midfielder. But if we're going to sign a holding midfielder De Jong is much much better, Prem proven and probably half the price.

The proof is in the pudding. If LVG thought he was good enough for us, he'd have signed him a month ago. It's a very, very simple deal to make. So we can safely say that he's, at best, a back up option.

I just don't see the point in signing players who wouldn't get near our first eleven, arguably even our bench, with everyone fit.
 
AR87 said:
I'm not particularly attached to signing Blind, but I'll trust LVG's opinion of a player he's seen many times and managed personally over most opinions on here or my own as I doubt most of us are extremely familiar with how Blind plays exactly.
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If Van Gaal rated him as highly as some people here think he does he would have signed him a month ago. Plus he signed Edson Braafheid for Bayern so he is not infalliable.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
If Van Gaal rated him as highly as some people here think he does he would have signed him a month ago. Plus he signed Edson Braafheid for Bayern so he is not infalliable.
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Yes he's made mistakes before, but his track record and experience gives him the benefit of the doubt over any of us. Just because Van Gaal rates a player it doesn't mean Woodward would have signed him a month ago.
 
The fact that we haven't signed him is encouraging, because it indicates we are chasing some bigger targets. IMO this is the kind of transfers that can be done in 24 hours.
 
AR87 said:
How often do you watch those players and Blind? I can't say familar with Rode, Fernando, Illaramendi, Jojbjerg or Rabiot so I won't say much about them, though Illaramendi cost far in excess of what Blind would. Song, Milner and Mikel have demonstrated nothing to me that makes me think they are a cut above what Blind would bring.

Mascherano and Ramires aren't CDM's. They are box-to-box players that do break up play, but aren't expected to sit back and shield the back 4.

Personally I'd rather go for Schneiderlin over any other potential CDM or Luiz Gustavo.

I'm not particularly attached to signing Blind, but I'll trust LVG's opinion of a player he's seen many times and managed personally over most opinions on here or my own as I doubt most of us are extremely familiar with how Blind plays exactly.
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Mascherano is absolutely a defensive midfielder. He's just mobile enough that he'll get a lot of stuff done besides sitting back and shielding the back 4. He shields that back 4 as good as anyone in the game though.
 
I don't believe van Gaal rates much of the Holland squad he had to take to the world cup, apart from Robben and RvP.

Therefore, if we do get him, it means indeed that he was a plan B at best.
 
hobbers said:
Well I've seen him for Holland and for Ajax. He's got no stand out qualities. And he's not really a utility player either, not in a top league. He has played at CB, but he's poor there in the Netherlands, so he'd be a disaster there in the Premier League. He's played as a wing back, but he's far too slow to play there in the Prem.

Even in CDM I don't think he has the control to handle the high pressing high tempo style. Since he's not good enough to play LWB or CB in the Prem, we'd be signing him as cover for Carrick as a holding midfielder. But if we're going to sign a holding midfielder De Jong is much much better, Prem proven and probably half the price.

The proof is in the pudding. If LVG thought he was good enough for us, he'd have signed him a month ago. It's a very, very simple deal to make. So we can safely say that he's, at best, a back up option.

I just don't see the point in signing players who wouldn't get near our first eleven, arguably even our bench, with everyone fit.
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That's an exaggeration! First of all, you can say the same about Fellaini. We signed him on the final day of the transfer window and even paid 4 extra million than we would have if we acted earlier. Secondly, you suggest that he'd struggle to even make the bench when we have a fully fit team! You realize how terrible our midfield is? Only a fully fit (but aging) Carrick and Herrera would be any real competition for Blind with the midfield we currently have. Im not saying he's a must buy, but he's a young player who is way better than the likes of Fletcher, Cleverley, Fellaini and Anderson. I'd still expect us to make a marquee signing in midfield, but i'd feel more confident with a solid back up like Blind than any of the other sorry excuses for midfielders we currently have bar Carrick and Herrera.
 
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Edwin van der Sar has been seen leaving Carrington. SSN have put two and two together and said Daley Blind is coming. I think that may be slightly premature.
 
Gopher Brown said:
Edwin van der Sar has been seen leaving Carrington. SSN have put two and two together and said Daley Blind is coming. I think that may be slightly premature.
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I don't see why else he'd be there. Unless there's another Ajax player we want.

He may not be a Vidal, but he's a better option than anyone else we have in midfield, apart from Herrera. It's nice to have a genuine defensive midfielder. His versatility will be useful no doubt.
 
Board members at other clubs don't go to Carrington to negotiate deals do they?
 
It's strange. Some say he's been the best player in the Dutch league for two years. Others say he's bang average.
 
i would be surprised if we werent in for him, regardless of the Vidal transfer. His versatility makes him interesting.
 
I feel LVG wants a bigger fish to fry on the market and still keeping Blind as an emergency.

Also the departures must occur first. Anderson and possibly Fellaini on loan.
 
Offside said:
Board members at other club go to Carrington to negotiate deals do they?
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Possible with Lvg contacts and his links to united we called him over to negotiate. Woodward should be there too at Carrington for Di Maria transfer.
 
They wouldn't send someone with a close connection to United to discuss the transfer of their player. And to come to Manchester to discuss a deal for their player as well.. no chance.

Would be absolutely moronic on their part.
 
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Would think its more likely that VDS would be here to discuss the link up idea with Ajax which was talked about last year if he is there in any kind of official capacity
 
Can Blind pass the ball 10 yards without it being intercepted? If so, we need him. We need him now.

It's been said before, but he could be our O'Shea. Given our injury problems, we really could use a player who can be deployed in various roles.
 
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