Daley Blind - Deal Confirmed

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dev1l said:
we need another source to shed more light on this blind affair
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A few journalists said we're in for him, Oliver Kay did in the Times today, but he didn't say talks had started, Ladyman is the only one reporting that.
 
Stretch said:
So are the Blind rumours still persisting just because he's Dutch?
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I hope so, we have Rojo, Shaw and James that can all play LB, hopefully we'll go back to a traditional back 4 once LvG gets the squad balanced the way he wants so there'll be no need for a 4th LB cover and he'd be lost as a CM in the PL in my view.
 
FitTucker said:
I don't get all the hate - he is very useful utility player, who could plug in the areas where we are desperately light - LWB and CM. Sure Shaw should be a starter at LWB, but I'd rather have Blind as a backup than what we have right now - same thing for the CM position. To say that he cannot cope against decent opponents is ridiculous - I watched him against Spain, Australia, Chile, Mexico, Costa Rica, Argentina and Brazil - there is plenty of decent opponents there and he didn't do too bad - he did his job well, was disciplined and I remember at least 2 assists and a goal. Sure he made a couple mistakes too, but who didn't... For me he is the perfect signing - not necessarily a first team starter, but I'm sure he will get 20+ games in the season, he knows LVG's methods, he wouldn't mind spending time on the bench, he is young, in fact I think he would've started against Swansea and improved us a lot.
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You've watched him as a LWB in 5 man defence not as holding player, which is different. If Blind would've been that good, LvG wouldn't have switched to 5-3-2, as he did it only after the Strootman injury. Signings like him are the reason we are in this mess, overpaying for decent players, instead for going real quality. I think we said the same about Young and look how that ended. If Shaw is injured, we have Rojo now, that can play there. Rojo is already that utility player and in midfield we simply need a starter next to Herrera and not Blind ffs. Once Carrick is back, we have a decent back up too for the hopefully new starting midfielder next to Herrera.

He lacks quickness and is prone to mistakes when being pressed, 2 things that are a no go as a holding midfielder.
 
Anderson18 said:
You've watched him as a LWB in 5 man defence not as holding player, which is different. If Blind would've been that good, LvG wouldn't have switched to 5-3-2, as he did it only after the Strootman injury. Signings like him are the reason we are in this mess, overpaying for decent players, instead for going real quality. I think we said the same about Young and look how that ended. If Shaw is injured, we have Rojo now, that can play there. Rojo is already that utility player and in midfield we simply need a starter next to Herrera and not Blind ffs. Once Carrick is back, we have a decent back up too for the hopefully new starting midfielder next to Herrera.

He lacks quickness and is prone to mistakes when being pressed, 2 things that are a no go as a holding midfielder.
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I agree he is not going to be a first team starter, but I think he could be very useful as a backup. You are suggesting that Rojo should be used as a LWB backup, that means if Shaw gets injured, Rojo moves to LWB and Blackett slots into LCB to replace Rojo. Instead I would rather have Blind as a LWB and Rojo stay as a LCB. I would use Blackett only sparingly - he has a future, but he is not ready yet. Same thing for the CB. If we had Vidal and he was not fit we would've still played with Fletcher on the weekend - I would rather had Blind there - not to mention that he could've moved to the wingback after Lingard's injury - he is very useful utility player. For some reason we have one of the worst injury records in the PL, so high quality utility players are very important to mitigate the risk of a crisis in one area or another.

The other reason I want him is, because I think Shaw is not ready and should be eased gradually. We forget that he is a very young guy and has never played as a wingback. On top of that he is moving to much bigger club with a lot more pressure in a different city, he has to live on his own for a first time - it might be a little too much for him. If we had Blind who has played as a wingback under LVG that would help Shaw a lot with the transition and it would take a lot of the pressure from him. I'm sure Shaw will be a great player for us eventually, but he needs to be managed carefully in the first few months.
 
FitTucker said:
I agree he is not going to be a first team starter, but I think he could be very useful as a backup. You are suggesting that Rojo should be used as a LWB backup, that means if Shaw gets injured, Rojo moves to LWB and Blackett slots into LCB to replace Rojo. Instead I would rather have Blind as a LWB and Rojo stay as a LCB. I would use Blackett only sparingly - he has a future, but he is not ready yet. Same thing for the CB. If we had Vidal and he was not fit we would've still played with Fletcher on the weekend - I would rather had Blind there - not to mention that he could've moved to the wingback after Lingard's injury - he is very useful utility player. For some reason we have one of the worst injury records in the PL, so high quality utility players are very important to mitigate the risk of a crisis in one area or another.

The other reason I want him is, because I think Shaw is not ready and should be eased gradually. We forget that he is a very young guy and has never played as a wingback. On top of that he is moving to much bigger club with a lot more pressure in a different city, he has to live on his own for a first time - it might be a little too much for him. If we had Blind who has played as a wingback under LVG that would help Shaw a lot with the transition and it would take a lot of the pressure from him. I'm sure Shaw will be a great player for us eventually, but he needs to be managed carefully in the first few months.
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Exactly .... his usefulness is that he is VERY good (not great) at a lot of positions, When you have injury situations like ours, it is a guy like this that saves your ass.

On the other hand I will say, I think the kid has lots of potential, but like Jones his versatility is at the same point the problem.
 
Joga Bonito said:
Miguel Delaney claims we are still in for him and another midfielder

http://www.espnfc.com/story/1999855/manchester-united-on-verge-of-angel-di-maria-deal-sources-say

There is also confidence that United can sign Daley Blind from Ajax, while manager Louis van Gaal remains in the hunt for another midfielder.
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Isn't Delaney generally reliable?

To be fair, I know they've not been particularly 'in the know' this summer but all of the British journos on the United beat seem to think we're interested.
 
If we have genuine interest in him why are we waiting so long to make move? This should be a pretty simple transfer to secure.
 
ThanksBoss26 said:
Isn't Delaney generally reliable?

To be fair, I know they've not been particularly 'in the know' this summer but all of the British journos on the United beat seem to think we're interested.
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Yeah, just doesn't make sense why we haven't signed him yet. He can play in 2 of our problem areas and is experienced in playing in a 3-5-2. I know Rojo can play as a left back but I'd rather we mainly use him as a centre back and not consider him as an option for left back given the injury prone nature of our 3 senior centre backs. As of now, we still need competent cover for Shaw and Blind can be it although he is primarily a central mid.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
If we have genuine interest in him why are we waiting so long to make move? This should be a pretty simple transfer to secure.
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This is my thinking exactly. One possible reasoning is he is just a back up option to some other big signing which we are working on and if it fails he can be signed late on in the window.

But looking at our MF, I would have him, irrespective of whether we get another player or not.
 
Still linked with Blind, I really would like to see him join. But I don't understand why it's taking so long if there is an interest. It should be quite a simple transfer.

His manager said weeks ago he would not stand in his way
 
Randall Flagg said:
Still linked with Blind, I really would like to see him join. But I don't understand why it's taking so long if there is an interest. It should be quite a simple transfer.

His manager said weeks ago he would not stand in his way
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Probably still occupied with the Di Maria transfer. Once that's sorted, I'm sure Ed will fly out and get this one done too.
 
Raw said:
Probably still occupied with the Di Maria transfer. Once that's sorted, I'm sure Ed will fly out and get this one done too.
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I doubt he would even need to fly out. An average player like Blind would be very happy to come here and as long as we offer a reasonable fee this will be over quickly.
 
Hed Zitin said:
I doubt he would even need to fly out. An average player like Blind would be very happy to come here and as long as we offer a reasonable fee this will be over quickly.
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We might not even need to make an offer, bro. Let's just wait it out and sooner or later he'll prolly show up like one of those abandoned Chinese hatch babies.
 
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Randall Flagg said:
Still linked with Blind, I really would like to see him join. But I don't understand why it's taking so long if there is an interest. It should be quite a simple transfer.

His manager said weeks ago he would not stand in his way
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here is simply no interest. He is newcastle level player I stated that many times. He would be the first player on the list, if we were interested and considering we are bringin in di maria. we would be laugable bringin someone three levels below di maria tha is what blind is nothing but mediocre player. Wonder how many matches people seen of him, he was even mediocre in Worlc Championship, except first match which he was good
 
m1y2 said:
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here is simply no interest. He is newcastle level player I stated that many times. He would be the first player on the list, if we were interested and considering we are bringin in di maria. we would be laugable bringin someone three levels below di maria tha is what blind is nothing but mediocre player. Wonder how many matches people seen of him, he was even mediocre in Worlc Championship, except first match which he was good
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How many times did you see him then? He had a very good World Cup, Ajax player of the year and 2013's Eredivisie player of the year.
 
m1y2 said:
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here is simply no interest. He is newcastle level player I stated that many times. He would be the first player on the list, if we were interested and considering we are bringin in di maria. we would be laugable bringin someone three levels below di maria tha is what blind is nothing but mediocre player. Wonder how many matches people seen of him, he was even mediocre in Worlc Championship, except first match which he was good
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Amazing post. So much shite being spoken in this post.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
He did not say it in the most eloquent terms but, he is correct. Daley Blind is not the level of player we should be bringing into this club.
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Wrong, it's just just ignorant nonsense. We have a tradition of having flexible utility players in the squad, who aren't top level superstars, but are essential to the balance of the squad. Fans these days seem to thin we should all be like Madrid, stuffing the team with galacticos, but do they not remember the likes of O'Shea, P Neville, Fortune...?
 
Sir A1ex said:
Wrong, it's just just ignorant nonsense. We have a tradition of having flexible utility players in the squad, who aren't top level superstars, but are essential to the balance of the squad. Fans these days seem to thin we should all be like Madrid, stuffing the team with galacticos, but do they not remember the likes of O'Shea, P Neville, Fortune...?
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O'Shea and P Neville came through the academy who developed into great squad players but, early in their career showed the potential for more. Quinton Fortune never had enough appearances to qualify for a medal.
 
Sir A1ex said:
Wrong, it's just just ignorant nonsense. We have a tradition of having flexible utility players in the squad, who aren't top level superstars, but are essential to the balance of the squad. Fans these days seem to thin we should all be like Madrid, stuffing the team with galacticos, but do they not remember the likes of O'Shea, P Neville, Fortune...?
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Never said we shouldn't be going after versatile palyers. I didn't like Sheasy much playing other than at CB where he was decent at the very best. but we have got LB/LWB covered right now with Shaw, Rojo and James and everyone of these three is better going forward and doesnt struggle defensively like Blind.. He is not better than cleverley at CM, someone could say I am insane according to todays performance but he wouldnt do better and capable as CB, no he is not not better than anyone of our 7 cbacks, wouldnt start him over keane personaly, its blinds worst position to cover, so we dont need him, he may be versatile but no way the level we are looking for. Some people are just so desperate to see palyers come in but he is nowhere near as good as we wanted. De Jong would be a better decision he is at least aggresive and lively, we need power not anyone whose best attribute is to pass the ball around. He is got some pass in him but he would struggle with the intensity of premier league for sure in any of his position he covers...
 
Signing blind doesn't make sense to me, he's a good player, but why would we wait this late for him, he's been available from day one and ajax are openly willing to sell, if he's a target what's the point in waiting till the last week.

With vidal it makes sense to wait to make sure his knee is ok, but if we aren't interested in vidal and has someone else in mind what are we waiting for, it's costing us not having the players ready for the start of the season.
 
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Signing blind doesn't make sense to me, he's a good player, but why would we wait this late for him, he's been available from day one and ajax are openly willing to sell, if he's a target what's the point in waiting till the last week.
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Maybe because he was never intended to be the primary target and we only looked at him as a Plan B if we fail to sign our primary target.

With vidal it makes sense to wait to make sure his knee is ok, but if we aren't interested in vidal and has someone else in mind what are we waiting for, it's costing us not having the players ready for the start of the season.
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From LvG's presser we clearly now know that he's interested in Vidal, but it is understandable to not want to pay over the top fee when we are not sure if his knee will be ok.
 
Red Dreams said:
Herera wont be ever present. Poor Fletcher looks past it...as much as I admire him.
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Yeah I agree we need extra bodies in there. I think Fletcher would be useful coming in every 4 games or something, he's an experienced player United through and through...but shouldn't be playing every game. Cleverley still hanging around makes me sick.
 
So Mitten said United scouts were at PSV vs Ajax game and told him that the deal for Blind was nearly done. No confirmation from the clubs side so far though.
 
RDCR07 said:
Blind for £15m or De Jong for £7-9m? Both are bloody average.
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And both an upgrade on what we have.

No problem with either of these. De Jong, in particular is a bargain at that price given the experience he has - generally and under Van Gaal.

Obviously I'd prefer to see Vidal but we could probably do with at least one other as well.
 
Blind, IMO, has a lot to offer in a squad role. Wouldn't solve our defensive or midfield crisis though. We'd still need signings in both positions.
 
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