How good a central midfielder could he become? Fletcher's level?
Daley Blind - Deal Confirmed
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Nice read that. He confirms what I've been thinking regarding van Gaal and signings. Us muppets won't have our way.
All of us who followed the Netherlands in Brazil saw a versitile intelligent young talent who delivered solid games against many of the best nations in the world. Not once did he look out of place or nervous, that's a very good sign if Old Trafford is his next destination.
If anybody knows his ups and downs it would be our manager. I completely trust his judgement.
If anybody knows his ups and downs it would be our manager. I completely trust his judgement.
okay
I feel so dumb nowI've only seen him at the World Cup, but based on that I'm not keen.
Did well against Spain so everyone jumped on the bandwagon, it's almost as if no-one looked twice to see that the rest of his performances weren't great, especially against Argentina. He'll be good for downsizing the squad and hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised if we sign him, although I'm not sure if we will.
Did well against Spain so everyone jumped on the bandwagon, it's almost as if no-one looked twice to see that the rest of his performances weren't great, especially against Argentina. He'll be good for downsizing the squad and hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised if we sign him, although I'm not sure if we will.
Technically and tactically sound, decent pace and able to cover plenty of weak points in the squad.
Got to be worth a look - I could see Shaw being moved to CB too if we had a good backup for lwb.
Decent price and could well step up considering he seems to have the right mental attitude.
Got to be worth a look - I could see Shaw being moved to CB too if we had a good backup for lwb.
Decent price and could well step up considering he seems to have the right mental attitude.
I'm starting to think that a) we may well sign Blind and b) he could be a pleasant surprise.
He's never going to be a world great, but he's shown that he can do a job at a high level, and I could see him being the sort of player that becomes a bit of a fan's favourite. A Dutch John O'Shea maybe.
I'd love to see somebody like Reece James come through, but he remains unknown at this stage - to claim that he's somehow obviously better than Holland regular and Dutch player of the season Blind is just daft.
He's never going to be a world great, but he's shown that he can do a job at a high level, and I could see him being the sort of player that becomes a bit of a fan's favourite. A Dutch John O'Shea maybe.
I'd love to see somebody like Reece James come through, but he remains unknown at this stage - to claim that he's somehow obviously better than Holland regular and Dutch player of the season Blind is just daft.
I have no doubts that Blind would be a useful addition for the coming season. If not for any other reason than he's a useful backup for positions we need to improve.
I'm not sure how much of a future I can see for him at United though. Surely we want to be signing specialists in each position long term, rather than relying on a jack of all trades utility man. I've not seen enough of him to judge mind, so hopefully he would become a specialist in his favoured position in the future.
I'm not sure how much of a future I can see for him at United though. Surely we want to be signing specialists in each position long term, rather than relying on a jack of all trades utility man. I've not seen enough of him to judge mind, so hopefully he would become a specialist in his favoured position in the future.
Don't know much about him, but reading reports it seems he can play as a CB which alone makes this a good signing because we don't have enough of them currently. There aren't that many top class CB's and when you factor in our likelihood of getting the few available, signing Blind makes alot of sense. It also should allow us to give Jones and Blackett plenty of game time which they really need at this point and will help us out in the future.
My main concern is that we view him as a central midfielder and thus decide not to pursue a better one this season. Buying Blind with the idea that he can fill in in midfield is repeating past mistakes of stockpiling average to decent midfielders and hoping the 2 selected will be good this game. This will be made worse because there's a genuine world class midfielder who is certainly attainable for us this summer.
My main concern is that we view him as a central midfielder and thus decide not to pursue a better one this season. Buying Blind with the idea that he can fill in in midfield is repeating past mistakes of stockpiling average to decent midfielders and hoping the 2 selected will be good this game. This will be made worse because there's a genuine world class midfielder who is certainly attainable for us this summer.
I think he'll come in and Van Gaal obviously thinks he can do a job. Seems unlikely we'll land any of the superstars, so Van Gaal needs a functional side capable of getting into the top four. Seems fair enough and he'll do better than some of the deadwood in the squad I feel.
From the man who brought you "Vermaelen to United is nailed on."
Plus we all remember the last Dutch superstar's son to sashay around the OT pitch...
From the man who brought you "Vermaelen to United is nailed on."
Plus we all remember the last Dutch superstar's son to sashay around the OT pitch...
Blind and Vidal would be more than sufficient for me -- in fact, it would be a sensation pair of new players. We know about Vidal, a force of nature, but Blind's versatility would almost be unique on the squad. He seems to be a three position player -- left back, defensive central mid and makeshift central back -- which could him in extremely handy when the injury toll mounts.
If Blind really can do a job as a defensive mid, we could even push Vidal up when Herrera goes down. When Shaw goes through the inevitable wobbles in his first season at OT, Blind could do a job there.
And with Vidal perhaps needing probably needing time to be absolutely, positively and fully recovered from the meniscus surgery, Blind could begin the season for us as our defensive mid. We start the season with a friendly schedule and it's not until October that it becomes brutish. One has to believe that Vidal will be ready for prime time just in time for that.
Louis, order Eddie to pick up Daley and Arturo!
If Blind really can do a job as a defensive mid, we could even push Vidal up when Herrera goes down. When Shaw goes through the inevitable wobbles in his first season at OT, Blind could do a job there.
And with Vidal perhaps needing probably needing time to be absolutely, positively and fully recovered from the meniscus surgery, Blind could begin the season for us as our defensive mid. We start the season with a friendly schedule and it's not until October that it becomes brutish. One has to believe that Vidal will be ready for prime time just in time for that.
Louis, order Eddie to pick up Daley and Arturo!
LWB and CM, makes sense. £15 million is a good price.
This. One of those days, we will have to learn that we are in better position to win things with quality specialists rather than jacks of all trades. No wonder why our midfield has been shit in the last few years when we had too many average players who tried to be versatile rather than become ultraspecialized.
I think LVG could have got Blind at anytime since the end of the WC. Do you think that the club are doing what they did last year by holding off confirming it until they have secured a bigger name as LVG's first signing?
They already signed Shaw and Herrera.
So because Januzaj was unknown last year, we can't claim that he'll be better than England international Ashley Young,Ecuador international Valencia and Portugal international Nani?
Sometimes I can't understand the transfer muppets here.Not that I have anything against Blind (I trust LVG so if he want to have Blind, he'll be a good addition for us) but I can't get this "we must sign him" thing just based on the World Cup performance.We all know how deceiving it might be.
would be a great signing imo
Technically good, tactically flexible. Get the deal done!
If it would have been Real Madrid without CL football they would have still signed any player they wanted.
Yep. Mitten is talking shit. More likely, United are skimping, as usual.
Infra all this link is showing for me is Mariner and Nichol saying 5th or 6th place would be a good season for United! What a pair of dick heads!
Am I alone in thinking this van
one is ex arsenal, the other is ex Liverpool, who thinks Liverpool will finish 3rd.
The evidence suggests otherwise given they've happily spent £30 million on a teenage left back when there were cheaper options available.
It is what it is - when you're in for big players other clubs will be as well, that's when it gets tough.
There's time to go yet and I think there'll be at least two coming in abc three or four out the door.
It's just the contempt in how they say it that annoys me!
Well they've waited a long time for united to have a really rubbish season.
This time last year, before Adnan had done a single thing in first team football? No, we couldn't claim anything like that. In fact we still can't with total certainty...
Only injury or catastrophic career nose-dive will stop him being better than Young, but Nani was an exceptional prospect at that age, and the prefect example of a player not fulfilling their natural talent. If you're not aware that there's a chance Adnan's career follows a similar arc to Nani's, then you are a naive fantasist who will suffer a lot of disappointment in life.
You call other people muppets for backing the signing of a solid utility player, while simultaneously claiming that Januzaj and Reece are the new Pele and Beckenbaur.
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Where have I said we must sign him?
I said I was starting to come round to the idea, could hardly have been more different!
Nothing to do with the world cup, I hardly remember seeing him other than the Spain match. My opinion is based on the fact that he's been a regular for Ajax for several years, including being their player of the season and (in another season) being Dutch player of the season, all while doing an un-glamorous job. He's clearly not a bad player, and what's more our manager knows him well and knows how to use him.
There could hardly be a less muppet signing. Or to be a true non-muppet, do you have to oppose the signing of any players at all, and rely entirely on youth products?
If we sign Rojo, should we still go for Blind?
I'm inclined to say yes, I think LVG likes filling his team with left footers down that side and I think Blind is good enough to go straight into our midfield and would balance the whole team out really well.
I'm inclined to say yes, I think LVG likes filling his team with left footers down that side and I think Blind is good enough to go straight into our midfield and would balance the whole team out really well.
Nope, shaw and herrara were signed while LVG was still with the Dutch at the WC plus they are confirmed as Moyes selections confirmed by LVG.
Would hate that deal. Not anywhere near the level we should aspire and with they way James is playing, I don't see the need for him. As a central midfielder he isn't good enough for a top team.
I don't see the transfers as being related. Rojo is a CB, and Blind would be at best 3rd choice for LWB.
It depends on what VG's long term plans are for midfield, and how much faith you have that Fletcher will hold up...
Third? He's probably a better wing back than Shaw currently is...
Plus, he'd probably be up there with Herrera as a starter in midfield potentially.
I think this chap would be an ideal signing right now, would add a little more quality to our CM (not that we need any more numbers there) and some badly needed extra personal at the back. Only problem is that he's not going to want to be number 2 to a 19 year old Shaw, understandably, but LvG isn't going to want to put his £17m-ish signing ahead of a £30m one. But still, there would undoubtedly be some game time for him and right now i'd take almost anyone to add a bit of extra man power at the back.
If he couldn't make the grade on the left side of defense in the Eredivisie, I doubt he could in the Prem. He doesn't have the pace required for that position.
I don't think it was a case of not making the grade though, more so that he was just better and more influential in midfield (where he won POTY). He can definitely still do a good job there.
His best position is defensive midfielder. He's Busquets minus the height and hopefully minus the theatrics.
He isn't a patch on Busquets as a player though. I'm not sure it's a valid comparison.
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