This is rubbish. Because the European champions didn't have a utility player, no one should? ( You're also forgetting that several of their players play more than one role in the squad - Martinez, Gotze, Muller, Alaba, Lahm etc). Versatility isn't a bad thing at all.
Daley Blind - Deal Confirmed
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"If he goes to a big club, he deserves it, but still I think maybe he should stay one year".
"It's difficult to say no when they come with a big bag of money because then it's almost impossible.... and sometimes it gifts the player an opportunity to go because sometimes the train only passes one time".
De Boer quotes I shortened from an interview I heard.
"It's difficult to say no when they come with a big bag of money because then it's almost impossible.... and sometimes it gifts the player an opportunity to go because sometimes the train only passes one time".
De Boer quotes I shortened from an interview I heard.
Of course it's not but the difference between Blind and those five players you mentioned is huge. They all excel in a particular role while being quality in other positions.
I don't understand the notion of signing Blind because he can "do a job" we need to be aiming higher. If we sign Vidal and Blind I'd be fine because he'd be a back up but as first choice I personally don't think his good enough.
Does everyone realise that Blind is not very fast? I don't see him playing LB or LWB against any of the top teams in the EPL. Players like Lennon, Sterling, Hazard, etc will have a field day
I'm sure van Gaal realises he isn't the quickest player in the world.
I think holding midfield is his best position. Van Gaal played him as a wing back/left back at the World Cup, but he was voted the best player at Ajax and in the Dutch league as a holding midfielder.
So is that his specialist position?
I would be happy if we signed Blind. He's such a controlled player because of his tactical awareness. I think he'd be an important player for us, especially in Europe when we get back there. Can see him being a fan favourite.
I'm not an encyclopaedia on him, but he was getting flak from the fans at Ajax when he played left back, Frank De Boer moved him to holding midfield and he won player of the year at Ajax and in the Dutch league.
Maybe, I'm not sold on him being quick enough or physical enough for the PL, when you have neither of those attributes midfield is a very difficult position to play in this league.
Be interesting if he comes. He said the other week, that he is not sure that he could hack the EPL as it is very physical. He thought he would be better suited to la liga.
By the looks of things he'd definitely fancy it. If he can genuinely play at centre half then he'd be brilliant, as we already know he's a good left back/wing back and IMO is potentially an excellent DM.
Michael Carrick, Joe Allen, Mikel Arteta and Yohan Cabaye a few years ago; prime examples of being stronger in your footballing intelligence with positioning and timely interceptions to compensate for the lack of physicality. Look at all the techno midgets running riot a little further up the field too, the whole notion of physicality is often hyperbolised.
Carrick is not a small man though and Arteta had some pace and Cabaye is a sturdy and physical CM, Joe Allen is so average I've not given him a lot of thought in truth, he's a good passer though. I just don't quite see Blind having anything that stands out for the PL, even he himself has questioned whether it's a good fit for him..
This is the right analysis. Daley very likely won't slot straight in as first choice in any one position but if he really can play in the back three let's pull the trigger on the man!
And neither is Blind, he stands at a little under 6'0. Arteta hasn't had much pace for the past 3 or so years, certainly seemed capable. If Cabaye was 'sturdy' then I'm sure Blind will just as strong. And Allen certainly didn't look average when he dominated us in the 3-0 victory last season.
He's great technically though and positionally sound unlike say Phil Jones - he would do well as our DM (I'd say he's faster than Carrick and Fletcher) until we bring in a worldie (if this ever happens) and could be a backup LB if injuries strike especially if we revert to 4-3-3 or 4-4-2/4-1-3-2. He's also a leader (Ajax captain) and would do wel as our new JOS-type until we get back into Europe and can get better players.
I get the feeling he will surprise many if we get him. He's supposed to be very good in midfield, competent at left back and capable of playing in defence as well. He will be far better than a lot of people anticipate.
Carrick is 3 inches taller and has a bigger frame though, Arteta's at a point where he has been here long to adapt for any pace loss, plus eh rarely plays as pure DM like Blind does. Cabaye has proven he was, Blind has said that he is not one for physical challenges. Cattermole could have looked like Pirlo against us last season!
The bottom line is we can't be sure, but he is a player that has openly said he isn't sure he could hack it here, and he has only had one season as a DM in a piss poor league, it would be a huge gamble, especially if we aren't playing a proper 3 man midfield.Everybody dominated us in midfield last year, not just an average player like Allen
We're not playing a treble season aren't we? We don't need a huge squad for next season. See Liverpool for reference. For now we need a trim squad to use as foundation to build on for season after next. Stop being so dramatic about it. Blind is perfectly capable of performing to acceptable levels at LB or CDM. If anything he would help us trim the excess players we have and solve a headache or 2 in terms of capable backup players.
Would people be happy with a midfield of Blind and Herrera?
It will be way better than anything we've had in the last few seasons but it wouldn't hold a candle to the midfields of Chelsea, Arsenal or Man City.
We would still start the season at a disadvantage.
Herrera-Mata-Blind v Fabregas-Oscar-Matic would not be that awful IMO.
This bit doesn't work, Cabaye has always been a right nasty little bastard just like Scholes, he gets away with it because he's beautiful.
Blind is also no where near fecking good enough to be first choice in our midfield, it's orange tinted specs from the world cup again.
And Blind is a saint? He'll be fine with the 'physical' side of the game, as many players have been before and will be after him.
One of these is not like the others.
Not even close to Cabaye in terms of talent or physicality. He's no where near good enough even if he was built like Patrick Viera.
I'm worried that Blind will be our last minute signing to compensate for our lack of ability to sign players during the window, sort of like Fellaini.
Even if true, Blind is much more versatile than Fellaini and won't be nearly as expensive. It will be nice to have such a versatile player in the squad.
Ah, right.
Surely he'd be a left sided wing back in Van Gaal's United team?
It seems Ajax are going to want around 20 million for him. He can play two positions for us not that versatile.
3 positions. Left sided CB, LB/LWB and CM. I can't see him going for more than £15m.
Doubt they will get that. 15 million is around what they will get i reckon.
And he can also play CB if needed so 3 positions
He can play LWB and DM, plus LB in a back four - all positions we could do with strengthening, so would be a pretty useful signing.
20m for Blind is too much. 12-15m would be a good price.
I buy him.
- Can play in 3 positions
- 15m Euros would be okay
- He would join us for football reasons and not just because of the money
- He gives everything on the pitch (instead of players like Nani)
- Can play in 3 positions
- 15m Euros would be okay
- He would join us for football reasons and not just because of the money
- He gives everything on the pitch (instead of players like Nani)
If we are going to sign him then just do it now, at least.
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