Nice input
I mean, the fact that a player getting criticised makes you 'sad' just baffles me.... Man the feck up.
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I mean, the fact that a player getting criticised makes you 'sad' just baffles me.... Man the feck up.
Try not to take everything you read online too literally, it makes life a little easier.
Well considering your staunch bias defence of Blind no matter what, I think it's fair to assume that anything that you say in relation to him, should be regarded as the truth and nothing but the truth
He was under no pressure and kicked it straight out the park. His reaction to the goal versus Stoke told you he thought so also. Smalling Bailly and DDG don't have mistakes on them every game like Blind.
Well considering your staunch bias defence of Blind no matter what, I think it's fair to assume that anything that you say in relation to him, should be regarded as the truth and nothing but the truth
Yep I agree Robbie but watch Ivaldo will try and twist your words....
Pretty sure I criticised him too? Don't let that detract from your point though.Well considering your staunch bias defence of Blind no matter what, I think it's fair to assume that anything that you say in relation to him, should be regarded as the truth and nothing but the truth
Oooo I'm a menace. What words have I twisted? Infact I used your exact wording, that's the opposite of twisting words.
Kidding me right? Look at the goal today, look at the goals against City, look at the goal against Stoke. All three of them were literally at fault!
Well the point is that you get 'sad' when Blind gets criticised which is kind of weird. I have been reading some of your posts in here now that you've got my attention and the bias is strong. I've never understood the lengths some go to on here to defend their 'favourite' players no matter what. It's a strange phenomena.
He might be defensively more aware then Shaw but hes too slow. Second goal was all his fault. Needs to be a squad player.
Dont think he should be playing in defence for any tough games to be honest as he isnt quick enough or solid enough for a CB. His passing is useful against the weaker sides and he's great on the left in games we attack but not when we're playing deep.
Didnt take a genius to figure he'd have trouble coping with their pace today.
Didnt take a genius to figure he'd have trouble coping with their pace today.
No that wasn't the point at all. I feel it's sad the extent some people go to criticise one of our own. Saying he has two to four mistakes in him every game is absolute nonsense. I'm totally fine with him getting criticised, as I've already pointed out I've criticised him also, in fact I've said I would prefer to see Shaw play left back over him, it's the complete over the top bashing I don't agree with, understand the difference.
Better then Blind... up until his time out of the side he was putting in consistantly decent performances.
Blind slept yesterday for their first and played Pedro onside he did the same against City twice. Stoke was different he shanked the ball out of play. It's getting to the point you won't accept he is at fault for anything I think I'm going to leave it at that Ivaldo as we are going around in circles and there is no debating with you on Mr Blind. It's like a dad who thinks his kid is the greatest at something when in reality everyone else can see he's obviously not.
I think too many on here are getting confused with 'bashing', 'hating (cringe)' etc, and valid, warranted criticism. If you didn't spend all your time in here trying to convince people of his brilliance and actually looked at another thread, you would see that the majority of our players are being criticised. It's hardly unique to Blind, now is it? Smalling is being ripped to shreads as are Zlatan, Pogba, Fellaini etc.
And that was when? More than a year ago. That was my point. Right now Blind is the better LB, and Mou was perfectly right in selecting him for the Chelsea match ahead of Shaw.
Despite me mentioning several times that I've criticised him myself you still assume this positon that I beleive he is beyond criticism. Brilliant.
That was the first few 5 or 6 games of this season...
How many more times do I need to highlight my own criticism of the player? I don't beleive saying he makes 2-4 mistakes EVERY game, do you?
Can't claim to have read every post in here but plenty of the criticism seems valid to me and your bias is pretty obvious, no? As I said, I don't understand this new phenomena of people blindly (no pun intended) defending our players no matter what. Yeah, you have mildly 'criticised' him, but your bias is clearly skewing your overall opinions of him.
He may just not be a player who can cut it against the top teams
He was one of our best performers in big games with Van Gaal. He had a couple of bad games with Jose and suddenly he's the culprit?
It happens. No more no less, he is a quality player. He loses cred faster than any other player I've seen in my lifetime.
He was also one of our worst performers in big games under Van Gaal, so not sure how that argumeny flies.
No one is denying that Blind can be great for us in defense, just that him in defense does seem to mean we will always get games where he performs really really badly and/or costs us a goal through basic errors.
Plenty of it valid, I'm not discussing those points though am I? I'll ask you again, do you think saying he makes two to four mistakes every game is valid criticism? That's the only point im discussing here, that's the point I was discussing when you quoted me. Maybe read whats actually been said next time mate.
Well if you really want, I can dig out plenty of your posts in this thread and the agenda driven bias will be strong. You actually constantly justify any mistake that he makes and claim he is better than others. I mean, you can hardly defend yesterdays performance so you have kind of in a roundabout way 'criticised' him but then basically exonerated him of blame, too. I can read just fine and my initial quote was the fact that you were acting like a melodramatic drama queen with your 'saddening' post. It always seems to be you against the world in here. Do you not think that says something, no? I mean you have 109 posts in here ffs.
That argument flies because he has constantly outperformed his defensive partners over the course of a season. You can shape and size sample sizes of selective games to endorse your bias but otherwise he has been our most consistent outfield performer ever since he's arrived.
This is part of the problem we have at United, over rating mediocre players and thinking they are better than they really are. The litmus test is- would Blind get into the back four of Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, City or Liverpool? No he wouldn't. I'm not saying he's a bad player, as you rightly put he's put in some good performances for us, mostly in games at home or games against mid/lower table teams where we dominate possession. Any game with any pressure or if he faces a physical striker he folds. Imo he's a good squad player to fill in now and then but is not good enough to be a starter.
He hasn't though. Him and Smalling are roughly the same in terms of good to shit games ratio... and that's why currently neither of them appear like they'd be good enough in the years to come.
Yup. Not much between them and both clearly aren't good enough to be starters. It's time for the excuses to stop when it comes to both, but the problem is that both players are the 'favourites' of plenty on here and they'll defend them no matter what. I would say that Blind is slightly the better of the two, though.
Why was Blind at fault for the 1st goal? I assume that's the goal everyone is talking about.
Robbie as frustrating as it is you're better letting it go as Ivaldo just doesn't see it when it comes to Blind.
He should have been level with Smalling but switched off then on making the mistake let Pedro run and never tracked him. School boy stuff.
I think any manager that wants good distribution from the back and can afford to protect him either by dominating possession or with a good defensive midfielder would love him as a central defender. Pep would bite your arm off for a player like Blind right now.
Even when Smalling is good defensively, he struggles with his passing and therefore he's extremely limited as a defender. You can't compare him to Blind in terms of talent level and contribution to attack. That's one big reason why we struggle in carrying the ball forward without one midfielder having to drop between the two center backs to do Smalling's job for him. Over the past couple of seasons we've even had our #10 having to drop deep because teams can press our other options and force Smalling to play forward.
What Smalling lacks on the ball in comparison to Blind, he makes up for in terms of pace, power and heading ability... so I'd say it's neither here nor there.
It appears so alright. Though, there's an 'Ivaldo' in every thread on here these days, it seems. Seems criticising a player these days constitutes as hate and it's apparently better to pretend all is well..
The team wasn't playing offside so why would he need to be level with Smalling? Blind twice looked over his shoulder just before the ball came in. He knew perfectly well Pedro was there.
He clearly was tracking him. Then De Gea came out and got in his way so he had to change direction. Which means he was never going to catch Pedro. And because there was no goalkeeper, he ran back to the goal. What else was he supposed to do? Run through De Gea?
The goal came because 1) Valencia not being close enough to the left back allowing him time and space 2) Smalling not attacking the ball (this is the main reason) and 3) De Gea doing God knows what.
Criticising a player for a poor game is not hate. Hate is when you take that one match or two, and begin to generalise about that player's whole season or career. Happens in Cafe all the time.
... eh? Blind is about 2 yards behind Smalling and lets Pedro get a run on him... not sure that that is up for debate.
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