@noodlehair
Blind goes up for the ball because smalling works best as the last line of defence. In the last couple of games- our goals against have been predominantly caused by Smalling going for balls that he has no chance of getting - in return leaving blind as the last line of defence which is nowhere near as poignant as it is the other way around.
Blind almost plays in front of smalling because he reads the game well & he can also pass the ball from deep predominantly in to forward positions.
Again, when we have the majority of the ball the need for a Rio/vidic type defence is not needed half as much.
@noodlehair
Nonsense. Blind is not the reason why Fellaini is in the middle. From 21 conceded premier league goals, we have only conceded 5 from corners or free kicks delivered into the box.
In contrast, Blind has to step up so often, because midfield has gone missing. It's basic level defending, anyone who has ever played in a half decent football team should know this.
If a player looks as if he is about to receive a ball around the 30 yard mark (the "hole") without being challenged, one of the two defenders must step up. If one of them didn't step up, a striker would turn to find two back peddling defenders and 10 yards of space to run into. It's not a case of Blind winning the ball, the purpose is to step up and stall the player whilst midfield and fullbacks tighten the gaps.
It happens on a regular basis as it is an obviously practiced routine.
Blind has is physical vulnerabilities, no one can deny that, but some of the claims on here are absurd, especially when the stats are proving he is a extremely capable defender.
Watch the end of the game today did we lads? Or are we just sweeping that one under the carpet or going to pretend he wasn't at fault for the goal? Because otherwise, that point I (and as it turns out quite a few others) made about him costing us games due to not knowing how to play at centreback, well...
You also might notice his complete piece of non defending when Fabregas got in and De Gea bailed us out. He literally just stood there and watched it happen even though he was the one who came over to pick Fabregas up. These just aren't isloated incidents at all and that's the problem. When he has to actually defend, he has no idea how to, and it costs us.
@noodlehair agenda-driven posting has reached a new level, but that doesn't surprise me at all.
Making the blasphemy in this forum, I think that Blind is actually a better CB than Smalling, or at the very worst case, he has been better than Smalling for the majority of this season. Of course, he isn't English, isn't 7 foot tall and doesn't put the ball in Row Z everytime a player is 50 yards near him, so he isn't good in the eyes of many.
Sorry but I have to single this one out. Accuse other people of being agenda driven then immediately reveal yourself to have a massive insane agenda about bias towards English players
In the games we have defended badly - Wolfsburg, Newcastle, Arsenal - Smalling was definitely the worst centre back in each of them.
Wolfsburg? seriously? I mean, the Newcastle game was mad and against Arsenal we were poor defensively as a unit, so I at least wouldn't single him out as being THE problem in those games, but the Wolfsburg game he was an absolute mess
You have to watch it back and actually pay attention to him if you think otherwise. It's the worst game he's had for us by quite a way. Wolfburg saw the weakness and were quite impressively ruthless about it. Though there were people on here praising him afterwards which figures.
Are you making up stuff? We played with Schneiderlin schweini and Carrick for most of the games til October and played Fellaini only due to injuries. We also never 'hoof it to fellaini'. If hoofing means keeper kicking the ball and him winning it at halfline (which again doesn't happen that often) then I donno what pulis and Klopp (with caulker) do.
You seem to have these cliched opinions. If Fellaini plays 'we good it to him' irrespective of the reality. If blind has a bad game then 'he is the worst player of the season' and 'his height and pace limitations have cost us lots of points'. Try actually watching matches for a change maybe?
You seem to have decided he is shit at the beginningand remain in denial irrespective of his performances
Edit - Bournemouth game? We had McNair CBJ and varela in the back 4. He had a mistake in the game but with that back 4?
No I'm going on the basis that Fellaini is very clearly quite useful at defending in the air and from set pieces, while Blind is not (and a centreback is expected to be strong in that department). So it is logical to assume that Fellaini's recent run in the team at the very least has something to do with this. I mean, if someone said to Van Gaal "is part of the reason Fellaini is a usefull player to have in the side his strength in the air at set pieces" and Van Gaal said "no", Van Gaal would either be lying or an idiot, wouldnt he?
I don't get what our line up in October has to do with it. I'm talking about the team that is being picked at the moment, not about 30 games ago. When Schweinsteiger is fit again maybe he will replace Felllaini as LVG willl see him as more beneficial. At the moment thoough he sees Fellaini as more beneficial to the team than more accomplished/natural midfielders like Schneiderlin and Herrera. If you have a better theory on why this might be then please tell.
We very definitely did hoof it to Fellaini. We haven't done so more recently from memory but denying this is something we were doing at one point is strange to say the least, coming from someone accusing others of not watching the games. It was causing absolute uproar by the time it stopped happening!
You've also made up a bunch of barely comprehensible stuff literally no one has ever said and then accused me of saying it in order to accuse me of having false opinions. Why bother? What does this prove to anyone?
This here is so very true, and something of a common mindset among people, especially on the caf in players threads, they just repeat common misconceptions about a player non stop, sometimes it makes me wonder, surely if they are fans, they must be watching the players surely. Its like no one is capable of forming their own opinions nowadays, just go with the common consensus regardless of the truth in the origin of the statements
It's just weird isn't it? A lot of the time I read stuff on here and think "surely you don't watch football and think that?" and the common theme is it'll always be some bandwagon opinion that started as a lazy cliche and somehow ended up being considered fact...then it ends up, for some reason, ruling over other factors like using your eyes to actually watch the game. It's what pundits do except you can expect it from them as they wont sit there watching every game for every team, so they have to assume to a degree. With fans on here it's baffling because they are watching the games then somehow ending up with an opinion on the game that was clearly formed before the game happened. The best part is how aggressive people are with it. If you talk to people in real life or go to games and stuff this just doesn't exist...it's some kind of internet disease.