He would probably cost less than many expect. First, Madrid generally don't sell their players at above Market prices. Second, he is nearly at a point in his career where one could say his best years are behind him. Third, (a big IF) he may want to return, which would basically force Madrid's hand, just as it did Fergie's. Fourth, Mourinho's likely departure at some stage will probably play a role whether or not Ronaldo stays. A change of managers would present a clean break opportunity for him to switch clubs.
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He would probably cost less than many expect. First, Madrid generally don't sell their players at above Market prices. Second, he is nearly at a point in his career where one could say his best years are behind him. Third, (a big IF) he may want to return, which would basically force Madrid's hand, just as it did Fergie's. Fourth, Mourinho's likely departure at some stage will probably play a role whether or not Ronaldo stays. A change of managers would present a clean break opportunity for him to switch clubs.
"IF" he comes to manchester united, i will
"IF", so dont be giving my moding position to no one yet
i knew it!
Reading this thread always makes me go full on transfer muppet caftard!
He isn't angling for a deal is he? The last i heard, Madrid are stalling because they don't want to pay the extra tax with the laws changing. They want to wait as long as possible to save money and i can't see how this would please Ronaldo or his agent at all considering what many would believe he is worth to the club. Barca didn't hesitate to give Messi a new deal and i'm not even sure it was running down. Meanwhile Madrid think they can let the deal run for as long as possible and Ronaldo won't think about a move away at all despite his situation allowing it. They aren't handling it well at all.
Ronaldo is using the club. He made it quite clear where his heart lies, and even if he ever has a change of heart, he knows he won't get what his new heart wants from the Glazers.
We should at least be grateful that he's showing enough respect not to use City as his bargaining tool.
We should at least be grateful that he's showing enough respect not to use City as his bargaining tool.
This, its only the muppet in me that even discusses these ideas, I am very confident judging from the past and his personality (Of what we know) it would seem he is angling for a bigger lucrative contract from RM that will sort him out for a good few years..
He'll sign a new contract with Madrid soon enough, I'm 99% certain of that.
If he ever did come back (a hugely unlikely if) I don't think It'd be a straight cash thing anyway. Madrid would want someone like Rooney included so that they could argue it was a good Football decision.
Anyone else listen to 'The Game' podcast from the Times? Gabriele Marcotti's take on the situation was interesting. Not suggesting he's ITK but he said that Ronaldo has turned down a contract at Madrid but that his people haven't ruled out the possibility of signing.
The undercurrent to what he was saying is that the influence of Mendes has come to be resented, people look at his clients e.g. Mourinho, Ronaldo, Pepe etc. as a package deal and they don't like the power that it gives him. When asked if he thought the Mendes package could land at United his answer funnily enough was not about the financials of the deal but his sense that the United hierarchy would not want to put the direction of the club in the hands of Mendes whose short term outlook could undermine the club's long term direction.
The undercurrent to what he was saying is that the influence of Mendes has come to be resented, people look at his clients e.g. Mourinho, Ronaldo, Pepe etc. as a package deal and they don't like the power that it gives him. When asked if he thought the Mendes package could land at United his answer funnily enough was not about the financials of the deal but his sense that the United hierarchy would not want to put the direction of the club in the hands of Mendes whose short term outlook could undermine the club's long term direction.
Ronaldo had a period in his career where he won it all (2006-2009). Aside from his personal exploits, he cares about trophies. His career will end up being terribly lop-sided if the second half of it is overshadowed by Barcelona's dominance. A player as good as him should be winning trophies, and he became used to that at Utd. I'm not making a point, but I wonder how much Ronaldo thinks about that kind of thing.
I doubt it. Those swap deals hardly ever happen apart from Gallas-Cole and Eto'o-Zlatan.
Mendes in the recent past had Ronaldo, Nani, Anderson at the club. Bebe's his. He brokered the De Gea deal and is now his agent. We're widely viewed as a "Mendes club" like Atletico and Real Madrid.
Like them, we may also want to avoid any further dependence but as an agent, a broker and a third party rights owner in Iberia and south america he's difficult to avoid.
In terms of the story beyond wages at Madrid there are other issues on Ronaldo's (and therefore Mendes') mind. Who'll replace Mourinho for one. Renegotiating the image rights deal (Ronaldo has basically stopped making new contracts, because his share isn't big enough - but he may be thinking about his retirement fund now
)And of course, the love. It just isn't there. According to this poll, http://www.marca.com/debate/2012/12/3019/pinta-votaciones3019.html
Spain thinks that Casillas is having a better season than Ronaldo (though admittedly some of those will be Barca fans on a WUM expedition).
Pepe's come out and said when things go wrong the press like to blame the Portuguese. Ex Madrid players are now following by adding they like to blame the foreigners in general. Remember the mass purge of the Dutch players, designed to fix things, three years ago?
Will Ronaldo leave? I think it'll take more than just money to keep him there, he wants trophies and he wants credit for his role in them. Though I'm sure money will help.
Yes, difficult to avoid. But he's Mourinho's agent too, which makes it very different, being that he's the manager of the club as opposed to another player.
LOL. I never quite knew the extent of Spains love for Casillas until Mourinho dropped him. Considering that there was a push for him to win the Balon d'Or, you can see why hardly anyone thinks he has been poor. He has been far from the saint that keeps Madrid in games when the defence has lapses, he has been part of the problem for me. I think Madrid can keep challenging Barca when Mourinho leaves if they keep Ronaldo, but they seem to be falling into old traps.
He's like that ex girlfriend who left you for a richer, better looking man, but you know deep down she still loves you and you'd give anything to have her back and make sweet love to her once again.
If that makes any heterosexual sense.
If that makes any heterosexual sense.
Uh-oh, that's Danny 1982's disturbing analogy, and it doesn't lead anywhere good. In my opinion, it reflects more on the psyche of the person who uses it than on anything to do with the Ronaldo-United situation. Get out while you still can!
So if PSG are out then that leaves....
Not even Mendes can magically get his client out of the capital club. Kaka also cost a fortune and has been a massive failure yet still occupies the bench. It will take a massive fee to extricate the player, unhappy or not. Bargain shoppers hoping for a Cazorla markdown are detached from reality
Good news for Ronaldo on the love front. AS did a "three wishes for the new year" survey and Ronaldo's contract renewal came in at number 2 (behind the Decima - the 10th Europen cup)
Maybe even better news for Mourinho though. Sacking Mourinho and getting a new trainer came in at number three.
http://www.as.com/encuesta/le-pides-2013-madrid/resultados/em-257/
Maybe even better news for Mourinho though. Sacking Mourinho and getting a new trainer came in at number three.
http://www.as.com/encuesta/le-pides-2013-madrid/resultados/em-257/
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I particularly like the way £60mil+de Gea+Nani = £60mil, apparently.
Also the fact that the entire thing is bullshit.
I particularly like the way £60mil+de Gea+Nani = £60mil, apparently.
Also the fact that the entire thing is bullshit.
Goal.com had some rumor bullshit that Madrid would accept £60m + de Gea. Would any of you take that (it would never happen, but hypothetically)?
Yes. Though I'd rather keep de gea and say 40 plus Rooney for Ronnie because de gea can solve gk for 15 years.
Er yeah. Ronaldo is a machine. 170 appearances, 169 goals. Could you imagine that all those passes they get sprayed wide were going to Ronaldo instead of Valencia, right now? He'd be ripping the Premier League to pieces. We wouldn't even need a goalie!
That Sun article doesn't actual say de Gea and Nani and 60 M. It could mean cash, de Gea and Nani that makes the deal worth 60 M. That would be even better and more far fetched.
It's probably been based on all the part exchanges we have done in the last 15 years.
I'd take it. De Gea is replaceable, Ronaldo on the other hand is one of a kind.
No chance.
De Gea will be the goalkeeper's equivalent of Ronaldo in the next couple of years (in that he'll be among the very best in the world), by which time Ronaldo will only be fit to be put out to pasture.
I wouldn't take it.
It won't happen.
Assuming the "deal" for Ronaldo would be 60m + De Gea + Nani, I'd do it.
The painful part of the deal would be giving up De Gea, who is underrated even here on a faithful United forum like RedCafe. Too many posters here rip De Gea for "mistakes" that are really nothing less than a failure to maintain absolute perfection. De Gea is well on his way toward becoming the world's top keeper within about two years' time. But as I've written here before, there are a lot of very good keepers around these days. I'm particularly impressed with Begovic. And there's an outstanding young English keeper by the name of Butland caftards should keep an eye on. And if we can keep our backs healthy, we could even put Taibi or Barthez back in goal and keep clean sheets.
Ronaldo, on the other hand, needs no introduction here. Conservatively, he could haul in 60 goals in all competitions for us and make us an instant favorite to take down Barcelona.
Seriously, I'd rather pay Real the full 80m and throw in Nani but keep De Gea. Do that and we, seriously, could entertain notions of going undefeated in the league for several seasons.
The painful part of the deal would be giving up De Gea, who is underrated even here on a faithful United forum like RedCafe. Too many posters here rip De Gea for "mistakes" that are really nothing less than a failure to maintain absolute perfection. De Gea is well on his way toward becoming the world's top keeper within about two years' time. But as I've written here before, there are a lot of very good keepers around these days. I'm particularly impressed with Begovic. And there's an outstanding young English keeper by the name of Butland caftards should keep an eye on. And if we can keep our backs healthy, we could even put Taibi or Barthez back in goal and keep clean sheets.
Ronaldo, on the other hand, needs no introduction here. Conservatively, he could haul in 60 goals in all competitions for us and make us an instant favorite to take down Barcelona.
Seriously, I'd rather pay Real the full 80m and throw in Nani but keep De Gea. Do that and we, seriously, could entertain notions of going undefeated in the league for several seasons.
That's well over 100M for a 28 year old for whom pace has always been an important part of his game. If he played until he was 33 that'd be 20M per year plus wages. There's no way that could be financially justified.
Seems legit...
I'll show my arse on Bolton Town Hall steps if this happens. Unreal levels of bullshit and a shameful ploy to get people clicking their shit website.
I'll show my arse on Bolton Town Hall steps if this happens. Unreal levels of bullshit and a shameful ploy to get people clicking their shit website.
Harsh on Ronaldo. It won't happen, but if it did? United as a whole would benefit because we'll have bought in effect an unbuyable player and at 27 he has plenty of years ahead of him.
Losing de gea? Wouldn't be nice. Can't see it happening anyway. Doubt he'd want to go real having played for Athletico and he's happy here. Basically it won't happen you're right.
in one word NO
60m plus Nani and De Gea!? Would be one of the most ridiculous deals ever.
But I'd take it in a second
Like someone else said you can replace our keeper, but a Ronaldo is a 2 in a generation type player, and we'd never get a chance of the other chap.
But I'd take it in a second
Like someone else said you can replace our keeper, but a Ronaldo is a 2 in a generation type player, and we'd never get a chance of the other chap.
I disagree. Forget age for a second. Lots of people wet themselves over 24 million for Van Persie. It's what they do on the pitch. What he does on the pitch and what he provides off it, is worth it. If it was 60 million today, Sir Alex would bite madrids hand off and there's a reason for that.
Cant believe people are debating wheater we should let DDG go in any potential move for Ronaldo, this lad is one of the greatest to ever play the game open your eyes FFS!
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