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Cristiano Ronaldo
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Yeah, it's from OPTA.
You said it exactly right.. they fail to realize that every player has their own purpose and the person who make the decisions as to who does what on the field are not journalists so they probably have a better idea of what is best. What Ronaldo does will always be picked apart and it comes with the territory...he shouldn't complain at least he is being noticed. Well he makes sure he is noticed
but in the end he plays to the fullest of his ability his method may not be what everyone is happy with but 90% of the time produces the desired resultsA result of CR being free to attack is just that you need to have other players on the pitch who work more in defense and close the gaps.
The problem is that Ronaldo has Marcelo playing behind him who isn't exactly known for his quality defending.
Probably the main reason why Mou wanted Coentrao and why he also demanded of Özil to work much more defensively and finally bought Modric when he realized that Özil hasn't got the defensive ability nor the stamina to do that on a consistent basis.
The problem is that Ronaldo has Marcelo playing behind him who isn't exactly known for his quality defending.
Probably the main reason why Mou wanted Coentrao and why he also demanded of Özil to work much more defensively and finally bought Modric when he realized that Özil hasn't got the defensive ability nor the stamina to do that on a consistent basis.
That was basically my point. Nostalgia always make things look better than the reality.
If they use 433 then someone else would be in front of Marcelo and not Ronaldo, matter of fact I would like to see then playing with that formation just to see how well/bad they would play.
arbeola - pepe - ramos - marcelo
khedira - alonzo - modric
ozil - benzema - ronaldo
Is he happy again?
Only god knows
Is he happy? According to his girlfriend, "He's much happier, thanks." Though whether that was a reference to football is anyone's guess.
However there's a very different tone from the Madrid press now. Marca in particular in the past couple of weeks has suddenly changed its behaviour. From the cool, near indifference of November he's suddenly flavour of the month, he's back on the covers, friendly stories, even down to pointing out that he's scored more freekicks than any other player in Spain (ignoring the attempts side of the equation).
It looks like Perez has decided that losing Mourinho and Ronaldo is further than he wants to go. He's supposed to have admitted defeat on the Kaka problem - no longer expecting any money for him and looking at some kind of leaving bonus to subsidise his wages with another club. This would give them the cash to renew Ronaldo's contract.
If the gossip columns are right he may even be regretting telling Ronaldo, "You can leave if someone offers us enough money to buy Messi." 
So yesterday's Marca led with this front page
However there's a very different tone from the Madrid press now. Marca in particular in the past couple of weeks has suddenly changed its behaviour. From the cool, near indifference of November he's suddenly flavour of the month, he's back on the covers, friendly stories, even down to pointing out that he's scored more freekicks than any other player in Spain (ignoring the attempts side of the equation).
It looks like Perez has decided that losing Mourinho and Ronaldo is further than he wants to go. He's supposed to have admitted defeat on the Kaka problem - no longer expecting any money for him and looking at some kind of leaving bonus to subsidise his wages with another club. This would give them the cash to renew Ronaldo's contract.
If the gossip columns are right he may even be regretting telling Ronaldo, "You can leave if someone offers us enough money to buy Messi."
So yesterday's Marca led with this front page
If the gossip columns are right he may even be regretting telling Ronaldo, "You can leave if someone offers us enough money to buy Messi."
ouch!
I still think Ronaldo should attempt less free kicks. Many of them are from positions extremely unlikely to go him, and unlike the likes of Juninho, his conversion rate doesn't justify it. I remember when he started hitting every free kick at United someone posting a stat showing that Vidic and Ferdinand were scoring a lot less, basically because Ronaldo was now shooting from positions were someone else used to cross into the box before.
I guess it's up to the managers to decide if it's worth it or not. At Porto we had a similar problem with Hulk. The occasional belter went in, but it remains to be studied if in some situations we would be better off just keeping possession or attempting a cross.
I guess it's up to the managers to decide if it's worth it or not. At Porto we had a similar problem with Hulk. The occasional belter went in, but it remains to be studied if in some situations we would be better off just keeping possession or attempting a cross.
It's always been my main gripe with his free kick.
Funny enough the best 2 managers in the world both think its worth him taking those freekicks...
Doesn't make them right. They can still be the best 2 managers in the world and make bad decisions.
When he does get them on target the keeper generally finds it very difficult to hold on to, if he can get near it, that can produce chances for other players - O'Shea's winner at Anfield, for example, came from that situation. The free kick was in an area where conventional wisdom would say cross it but he shot regardless and there was a goal as a result. I'm not sure how many goals there would have been like that, but it's too simplistic to look simply at goals scored.
Hasn't he been doing just that this season? Can't remember many free kicks from him. When he scores one he goes on a run but since the beginning of the season and until he scored one I didn't see many. I've seen him take a few quick short ones.
the best 2 managers in your opinion.
And that won't change the fact that statistically, his free kicks are very poor.
Perhaps, I haven't watched enough of Real lately. If he's doing that than he's probably going the right way about it.
I can confirm it as I can't find those stats. Just something I've notice. He's not playing quite the same as he did last season.
I also don't think his conversion rate is poor. His stat, last time I saw it, was about 1 in 12. Average has to be lower than that. If it were higher we'd see a free kick goal every weekend in the PL.
He's a good free kick taker, no reason why he should have an average conversion rate. It's not higher because he mixes areas were his conversion rate is good, with areas were it isn't.
It's just a thought for debate though, I haven't studied in depth. As an example, take the goal he scored against Arsenal. Most people would cross from there, and that goal required a bit of bad keeping to go in. I was only questioning if the number of goals scored from there are worth it when compared with the ones that would be scored if he was crossing it (or heading it in). Not easy to determine at all, I reckon.
In those areas he's definitely shooting less. They've got Alonso/Özil/Modric to put it into the box and some good players to get on the receiving end.
Good for him, and that can only help his conversion rate.
Like I said, I don't know how he's doing now, I'm talking from what I've seen at the National Team, where many of his free kicks are a total waste, particularly when we have an excellent dead ball specialist in Veloso.
Like I said, I don't know how he's doing now, I'm talking from what I've seen at the National Team, where many of his free kicks are a total waste, particularly when we have an excellent dead ball specialist in Veloso.
I think Ronaldo has the balance right. If you've ever played the game, you'll know that it's hard to get a free kick on target. In most games Ronaldo plays, the possession turnover is irrelevant, Madrid are much better than the opposition, and his return is good. What's the highest amount of free kicks a player has scored in a season?
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In the games against Dortmund and City at home, he let Ozil take some, one of which resulted in a goal. Those are the games where you don't want to waste possession taking high risk free kicks, and i think he recognizes that.
That stat about Vidic and Ferdinand is crap, they haven't started magically banging in headers once Ronaldo left. Free kicks are incredibly difficult to manipulate, the defense is organized, and the dangers are marked. Ronaldo is better than most at using them, and Cal? has a point: Mourinho and Ferguson let him take them for a reason. I've noticed that he got a few free kicks on target in his last match, he's been varying his approach to free kicks, which is good.
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In the games against Dortmund and City at home, he let Ozil take some, one of which resulted in a goal. Those are the games where you don't want to waste possession taking high risk free kicks, and i think he recognizes that.
That stat about Vidic and Ferdinand is crap, they haven't started magically banging in headers once Ronaldo left. Free kicks are incredibly difficult to manipulate, the defense is organized, and the dangers are marked. Ronaldo is better than most at using them, and Cal? has a point: Mourinho and Ferguson let him take them for a reason. I've noticed that he got a few free kicks on target in his last match, he's been varying his approach to free kicks, which is good.
Don't watch many international games, but if Veloso is better at hitting dead balls, Ronaldo should be in the box trying to head them in. That's strange.
No mate, he's not better overall, just better at crossing. And he's left-footed so he's a good alternative even in some shooting situations.
That said, he doesn't even take the corners, Moutinho does, and he's awful at them. Maybe it's because Veloso plays as a lone DM and our manager doesn't want to leave the defence uncovered with the CB's in the box already. No idea.
There you go. If you have a left footer who can curl it like that there's no reason for Ronaldo to be taking free kicks from there. Well done.
I thought this was interesting from the newbies.
Of course a shots-to-goals ratio comparison between someone like RvN and Ronaldo is entirely pointless but Henry and Ronaldo are very comparable in terms of the variety of shots they take from all sorts of distances and for me it does show that Ronaldo's more wasteful than people care to say. Ronaldo has a goal every 8.5 shots, Henry every 6.5. Even Van Persie makes for a good comparison and he scores one every 6.2 shots.
Of course a shots-to-goals ratio comparison between someone like RvN and Ronaldo is entirely pointless but Henry and Ronaldo are very comparable in terms of the variety of shots they take from all sorts of distances and for me it does show that Ronaldo's more wasteful than people care to say. Ronaldo has a goal every 8.5 shots, Henry every 6.5. Even Van Persie makes for a good comparison and he scores one every 6.2 shots.
I don't think ESPN stats go back, reliably at least, as far as RVN's era.
Nope, the Ibrahimovic stats should be ignored too assuming he's just added up all of his goals throughout his career and somehow missed the fact that he apparently scored 20-odd goals from 0 shots in one season. Looks like reliable shot stats are available on ESPN for the Premier League since 01/02 and the Champions League since 05/06 though. Certainly should be reliable when it comes to Van Persie and Ronaldo.
A quick check tells me Henry scored 116 goals in 660 league shots in 6 seasons between 01/02-06/07 which leaves him with a goal every 5.7 shots. Ronaldo's had 833 shots in 3 and a half seasons in La Liga scoring 125 goals which leaves him with a goal every 6.7 shots - the point remains the same, it's a significant enough difference.
A quick check tells me Henry scored 116 goals in 660 league shots in 6 seasons between 01/02-06/07 which leaves him with a goal every 5.7 shots. Ronaldo's had 833 shots in 3 and a half seasons in La Liga scoring 125 goals which leaves him with a goal every 6.7 shots - the point remains the same, it's a significant enough difference.
That RVN stat is brilliant. He was only ever inside the box and most of his chances were him taking him goal scoring posiotions
The RvN stat obviously isn't right but his record's impressive all the same - varied between 1 in 3 to 1 in 4 at his peak which is about as good as it gets for strikers like him.
he's on the plane, coming back from spain, viva ronaldooooooo
All the Ronaldo love will get annoying within the next three months. He will get an amazing reception kinda like what Becks got. Hopefully the results will be the same.
reading the draw thread had me wondering what the priorities were for some, Ronnie coming back or Utd actually getting through?
Think some have already given up on this tie.So are clinging on to the comfort of Ronaldo coming back to OT.
Yep, we're going to be getting a ton of knickers in a twist over the coming few months. (literally and figuratively speaking, of course )
)Jesus, lighten up lads! People are allowed to look forward to seeing him back at OT and also want us to win, you know. It's like Grumpy Old Men in here.
I say we forget giving him an ovation until the tie is won and he's walking off the pitch!
this ain't an ageing ex player coming back with a lesser club to soak up the atmosphere.
It's a Real Madrid player in his peak who may well blast you out of the competition.
It's a Real Madrid player in his peak who may well blast you out of the competition.
Persie > Ronaldo.
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