No doubt about that - I don't think anyone would disagree there. I just used to be of the opinion he became a less entertaining and less effective all round player. There must be remarkably few players that have become more spontaneous, flamboyant and entertaining in the latter part of their career though - right? The same is true of Maradona & Pelé and almost every other great player I can think of. There are a lot of players that became better as they got older but not many that became more entertaining. When you're young, carefree and fearless you tend to try things that you wouldn't as you get older...right?
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No doubt about that - I don't think anyone would disagree there. I just used to be of the opinion he became a less entertaining and less effective all round player. There must be remarkably few players that have become more spontaneous, flamboyant and entertaining in the latter part of their career though - right? The same is true of Maradona & Pelé and almost every other great player I can think of. There are a lot of players that became better as they got older but not many that became more entertaining. When you're young, carefree and fearless you tend to try things that you wouldn't as you get older...right?
Perhaps but surely these players who become less flamboyant and more efficient do so as a result of losing a yard...strength or stamina. Ronaldo changed before he hit is peak.
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Fair enough.
Either way people will claim one is a better player than the other for many years after their careers have ended.
My belief is one is coffee, the other tea. I enjoy both, they're both made up of different ingredients. And at times its bettet to have one than the other.
I will always sway slightly in favor of Ronaldo if it came to a definite choice. Growing up watching united is what I did unfortunately and that slight bias will always be there.
His dribbling was never his best asset. He had quick and fancy footwork, that's all. That's why the 06-07 him can be easily marked out of games by the likes of Cole and Clichy who were quick on the ground. People started giving him the "big game choker" tag. After that he focused more on movement and shooting, that's why his record in the big games improved tremendously.
Yeah, he only got the one hat trick for us.
Our finishing in that match though
Friedle was great but Rooney had a couple of great chances and Giggsy missed a sitterIce pack on his knee again after he was substituted. It was maybe the same knee that was troubling him at the world cup. His body has limits, I think we may finally see some wear and tear on him. Messi has declined a little bit due to the same, i think cristiano's level might come down too now.
Probably just precaution.
Couldn't disagree more.
Ronaldo craves and drives to be the best player in the world. The idea that he couldn't give a shit about Messi being better sounds a bit bizarre when you take everything into account. Ronaldo doesn't settle for second best and that's driven him to being the current best in the world.
Edit: Ah, good old white text 'joke'. Such a fresh and exciting one there
Now only if we could match his release clause.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...-1billion-euros-release-clause-at-real-madrid
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...-1billion-euros-release-clause-at-real-madrid
Ronnie just wants one last fat new deal.
A lot of players in Spain have ridiculous release clauses, means nothing really. Benzema has one which is like 180 million Euros if I recall correctly.
Yes. According to portuguese media it was precaution. The french game was just a friendly. Our next game against Denmark (for the Euro qualifying round) is the important one.
Correct. In Portugal it´s the same. All players have release clauses but 95% leave for fees bellow the release clause.
All of them do, it's a requirement in Spain.
Was that something to do with why what's his name, the English player, came back to England? Were they going to set his release clause at such a high level that would mean he could never actually move?
No. The Eric Dier story is more complicated and involves our previous board unethical negotiations and supposed promises by Dier's agent (his dad). Dier would move to England sooner or later. He choose to ditch the club that gave him everything in a Champions League year. Tottenham wage offer was superior to our wage cap and he moved. He could have done a year later and we could have gotten more financial compensation for our academy work but his father deceived us. We got 5 million euros when he was worth more but we "pay the price" of having a previous incompetent board and believing in agent's word.
In financial terms our league is a stepping stone. Clubs never set release clauses to prevent any player from moving. Doesn´t work like that. All the top talents end up moving sooner or later. Like i said Colin, the release clauses are a legal obligation in portuguese league player contracts. For negotiation purposes, it has little influence. All portuguese market big transfer were done bellow the release clause vaue.
Thanks for the background
I have a completely straight friend, who would watch gay porn of Ronaldo was in it.
Can Messi do that?!
Can Messi do that?!
Probably but will need Xavi and Iniesta's assist.
There are many many videos of midget porn on the internetz, not sure about your friend's tastes though.
Not sure why messi would want to watch gay porn of ronaldo.
Tell him you have bad news for him.
Chelsea who are managed by one of the best managers in the world wanted 'fat' Rooney. And if they did get him i have no doubt Chelsea would have won the league last season.
Out of all the United fan sects the Ronaldo fanboys are the most cringe-worthy and unbearable. This is a guy who used the club as a step ladder to get to his beloved Madrid. Became the best player in the world then went off and gave is best years to Madrid, in the process comparing his time at United with slavery. Hardly a great servant. You keep going on about Rooney's wages and being greedy but Ronaldo is no different, every time his contract is about to expire you hear him using the good old 'you never know one day i will return to Manchester United' line then a month later signs a bumper contract.
But to be honest i don't blame footballers wanting the best wage possible we would all do it, although Rooney on field doesn't deserve to be on the pay scale he's on off the field his image generates a great deal of revenue for the club so in that aspect he's worth the wage. Ofcourse i do not like the way he went about it, but he's still here and has hung around throughout and gives his all. Both c*nts imo but to say Ronaldo is a better servant is laughable.
If he has eyes I don't see why not?
Enough of the stupid talk.
That is what annoys me, allot of fans have short memorys on Ronaldo's 2008 antics, when for my eyes he could have given United 4 great years between 2006-10. Ronaldo wanted to leave way to early, when I do think 25 is when he should have moved to madrid, not wanting to go in 2008.
Can you imagine if he did leave in 2008, he would have given Real Madrid 7 fantastic years or more, after the huge amount of time and investment developing this player. Announced has the worlds best player in a Real Madrid shirt, the only slaves out of the 2 was united having to put up with Ronaldo's inconsistent performances, working like hell developing him, but hey madrid get the best of him, and we get 2.
Yea what a legend
That was Blatter (or Platini) not Ronaldo who compared it to slavery.
So, it was Guardian's spin on his words "I agree with the president", not exactly Ronaldo comparing his position to slavery.
I saw integral versions of both those interviews that summer, with Blatter and with Ronaldo (the latter held in Portuguese, I also read a transcript of an English translation).
In a 30 mins long TV interview, among other things, Blatter spoke about contracts, transfers, licences, fees, agents, etc. One of the early questions in the interview was about Ronaldo possibly asking for a move that summer - Blatter answered that in his opinion no one should be held at any club against one's will. That was the only moment during the interview when Ronaldo was mentioned. Some 15 minutes and 5 or 6 questions later, none of which had anything to do with Ronaldo, replying to a question about current regulations, Blatter said that there were examples akin to slavery in contemporary football.
It was the way Sky Sports cut the interview and the media spun it (linked Guardian article is a good example) which created an impression that he spoke about Ronaldo when he said that.
Ronaldo's interview was held in the street, in front of the hospital building he had just left (he was ambushed there by a RTP crew). He spoke mainly about the injury (it was 2 days after the operation and he was on crutches) and was obviously annoyed with questions about the transfer, including those on Blatter. Yes, I'd agree it could had been deliberately timed by his representatives and coordinated with Blatter's interview - and he definitely looked like he wanted to leave - but my impression was that he didn't know what Blatter had exactly said, never listened carefully to the journalist, just said 'I agree with the president'. (It looked more like agreeing on his general view on the player v club issue.)
Re Blatter - and I said something similar in the newbie forum at the time - blinded by his disgraceful 'slavery' comment, everyone seemed to have overlooked another shameful fact back then: that Fifa president actually had taken part (and sides) in the ongoing transfer war between two clubs.
Edit - no need to thank me for bringing back these nostalgic memories of that unforgettable summer.
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Its good but its not quite...
What a match.
The perfect poetic revenge after their bastard police beat up our fans at the Olimpico.
What a match.
The perfect poetic revenge after their bastard police beat up our fans at the Olimpico.
Smith's goal in that match is still one of my favourite moments of that season. What an occasion.
You do know it's Ronaldo himself who is the one who is responsible for him becoming the best player in the world, right? Our club certainly played a part, but the credit for his development should first go to him - rather than portraying it as in we did all the hard work for no reward (even though it wa son of our most successful periods).
As for your hypothetical, well it didn't happen like that did it? - so not sure why you are creating a made-up scenario to show how unjust things could have been, when it didn't pan out like that.
Was an amazing game and that goal was incredible!
Both parties played a part. Although with dead-cert top players you're less inclined to believe they'd struggle without the guidance of the club they made it at. Whether Ronaldo was a dead-cert at 19 is obviously the debatable bit. I'd say yes.
Fair enough - agree with that.
He agreed with Blatter's slave comments and uses United to get bigger contracts. Yet folk have a beef with Rooney for his contract shenanigans despite giving us more than a decade.
I don't get anything anymore.
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