fecking hell, man! You're not even joking here, are you?
... No. If it were anyone else, of course, it'd be mad. But with him, it's more than theoretical, it's conceivable
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... No. If it were anyone else, of course, it'd be mad. But with him, it's more than theoretical, it's conceivable
Apologies guys I've done my maths wrong, Ronaldo has actually scored 54 fewer goals than Raul in 484 fewer appearances (in all competitions).
Machine.
On pace to knock in a cool 85 goals this year - could reach 100 including internationals.
The mind boggles. Remember when Henry's 30 goal 30 assist season was viewed as the peak of attacking performance?
Its only the start of October and he's already got 17 goals? Wtf.
He's a fecking monster. Even in his 30s he'd still churn out goals.
It's impossible to realize just how ridiculous those stats are. It won't properly dawn on anyone until we don't see anyone come even close to replicating them for a couple of decades after he (and Messi) retires.
And even when another player comes along to put up similar numbers, chances are it will be for a one off season rather than a solid 6 plus years on the trot. Its why Ronaldo will easily go down in the GOAT pantheon.
What's he on after tonight?
Crazy isn't it, you really wouldn't care if it was Rooney, RVP or Falcao who missed out if it meant Ronaldo back in
I've always thought this was harsh. He was more flashy and unpredictable back then but now I think he's a victim of his own incredible standards. His ability to score goals isn't considered entertaining or exciting anymore because he has done it so much in my opinion.
If any other player (asides from Messi) matched Ronaldos output for a season everyone would say how entertaining and exciting they are.
Just ridiculous when people automatically discount him from being the goat. I've heard it said in other threads words to the effect of, 'take out the goals and his overall team play isn't as good as (insert player here)'. I mean, seriously, this guy is doing things people said it would be impossible to do. And some supporters saying that his time has passed and he shouldn't come back to United. If there was the slightest chance we should be moving heaven and Earth! He is incredible!
17 in 11 games. Stupid really.
Bold is key. The game isn't all about stats.
He bulked up too much in my opinion, and it changed the way he played. Obviously his output shows that it's worked in terms of how effective he is, but he was more exciting to watch back then.
Its also a bit natural for most to dismiss players of the present. That said, 25 years from now, Ronaldo and Messi will be the central focus of GOAT discussions in the similar vein as Pele and Maradona are in the present.
The way the game is going with defenders focusing more on technique and passing than defending, teams being set up to play more attacking and attractive football (employing a high line etc) because their fans demand it(including those of lesser teams)resulting in them conceding more, the monopoly at the top with big clubs having overloaded squads full of internationals which also results in smaller clubs being left more depleted, the referees booking players for almost every foul or bit of contact with an attacker etc I would be very surprised if in the future there are not some players with similar enough stats. Especially as those factors I mentioned will become even more prominent, giving even more advantages to the attacker.
Don't compliment him too much, Brwned and ShedEnd will come in soon to tell us he's not that good and he just scores goals (he doesn't influence the game otherwise)
Goals don't influence games, don't you know?
Goals don't influence games, don't you know?
Ozil's more or less the same player he was at Madrid, even down to his goalscoring rate. Obviously it's easier to assist Ronaldo than Giroud though.
Agreed, but it would be great if one of them could win the World Cup. Personally it doesn't affect the debate for me, but I think lots won't see them as GOAT until they do it.
It's like saying "That goalkeeper would be well shit if he didn't save all those shots, he doesn't do much else".
You pay £35m these days for a 20 goal a season striker.
It's just october and he's about one game from hitting that target.
7 months to go and the games will start to come thicker too.
Insane, I think he could elevate himself above Messi's best at this rate.
He's a sick, sick man. Imagine he could break Raul's record with the guts of 400 fewer games played. That's just ridiculous.
La Liga - 13 goals in 6 appearances
I don´t even know what to say. Not even on FM he would have those statsOffered Draxler,Reus depay instead of the golden child....id take them.
Im not wumming.
Im not wumming.
And that's why they still won't let you out of the institute, even though you've not thrown poo at one of the nurses for months now.
Well yeah three players of their quality probably would be better but make it fair and you're only allowed to pick one of the four you'd be stupid not to take Ronnie.
The ones who don't should not be entitled to an opinion to be blunt but fair. Di Stefano, Puskas, Eusebio, Cruyff, Best didn't win a World Cup either but are still among the greatest ever.
What's sicker is that he could break both Raul and Sir Bobby/ Rooney's record. Imagine that. Being the top scorer at 2 of the biggest clubs on the planet.
I just wouldn't put it past him to beat that record come the end of this season. If anyone in the world can score so many with as much games left, it's got to be him.
I think that's true, but I also think we're seeing a pressure on flair players to take up goalscoring duties. Neither Messi nor Ronaldo were strikers by trade, but such are the needs of the teams, they were encouraged to take on the job.
In another generation, Ronaldo might have been allowed to be a winger and a trickster, Messi might have been happy as a wide playmaker. Now what the Spanish call the desquilibrantes (the players whose skills or unpredictability leave the other team off balance) are seen as potentially decisive in the penalty area as well. Whether that's a temporary phenomena, because of the particular players involved, we wait and see.
Well not in days.
Seriously though,they money being bandied about for a return for Ronaldo,those three,with what we have adds depth,quality,,and is definitely got more longevity.
They'll end up making him play with weights on his ankles, that'll cut him down to a paltry goal per game....
Me and TheShedEnd are miles apart in our opinions of Ronaldo. I don't think he's as good as Di Stéfano, he doesn't think he's as good as Henry...
La Liga - 13 goals in 6 appearances
Overall - 17 goals in 11 appearances
Nooo I meant for the year 2014. Looks like he's on 41 or 42?
13 in 6 is just bloody silly though really.
How many games of Di Stefano have you seen?
Raul is still playing isn't he?
Would be amazing and surreal if Ronaldo gets the goalscoring record while Raul is still not retired
Would be amazing and surreal if Ronaldo gets the goalscoring record while Raul is still not retired
Absolutely. There will be players matching Ronaldo and Messi's output for a season, or maybe even two, but doing it for the better part of a decade? I can't see it.
Well, we'll see. You can pick pretty much any season out of Ronaldo or Messi's last eight or so at random, and you'll have to pick amongst the absolute best players at their peaks to find someone who's matched it just once. That sort of consistency is absolutely atrocious, and I don't think we'll see it again any time soon.
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