He's coming home I can feel it 
Cristiano Ronaldo
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We've obviously signed enough #9s and #10s...guess now we are looking to stock up on #7s
So many Ronaldo fanboys coming out of the closet and getting wet at the thought of him coming back to us..
He requested to leave 2 times, in 2008 & 2009. SAF persuaded him to stay one more year. He did, but sulked his way through the season, and deliver such a selfish performance in the CL final vs Barca.
Van Gaal will not indulge him like the way SAF did. If he can accept the team is bigger than him then let's do it by all means. If he's going to be all about chasing personal records, individual honours and top scorer like the way he did in Real, then please NO.
He requested to leave 2 times, in 2008 & 2009. SAF persuaded him to stay one more year. He did, but sulked his way through the season, and deliver such a selfish performance in the CL final vs Barca.
Van Gaal will not indulge him like the way SAF did. If he can accept the team is bigger than him then let's do it by all means. If he's going to be all about chasing personal records, individual honours and top scorer like the way he did in Real, then please NO.
Except that's part of the point that I'm trying to make!
On more than one occassion Ronaldo has stated that he's been unhappy with the way that some Madrid fans have reacted towards him, whether it's the booing he's experienced or feeling "sad". Real fans expect perfection every week - they are, after all, a fussy bunch. I'm not saying in any way that we'd absolutely, positively turn on Ronnie, but our expectations for the team would be greater than even our 2009 squad now that we have a proper midfield as well as a strong attack.
My main point is that I have no idea what the reasons are if he wanted to come back. You and I can only guess. All I'm saying is that if his main reason for coming back is because he was well loved then we need to take into account that things could be very different and he may experience some of the same issues that made him unhappy at Real. I never once said that he has a big ego or questioned his professionalism, so I don't know where you're getting that from. The guy is the perfect example of someone who takes their career very seriously.
Again, I said that if he did come back I'd like to see him play in a strikers role.
Agent Fergie.
And this you're basing on how he looked during the games?
If he had spent the entire season sulking, then I fail to see how he could have kept such good relationships with SAF, the players and the United staff.
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RAFA-----------JONES-------------ROJO---------SHAW
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DI MARIA------------ROONEY/MATA-----------RONALDO
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RAFA-----------JONES-------------ROJO---------SHAW
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DI MARIA------------ROONEY/MATA-----------RONALDO
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Or maybe just fans who would like to see one of our best ever players rejoin the club and play for us again.
If he's available why would you not want him back , even at 30 this guy is one of the all time greats, with his physical attributes and work ethic he can easily go on for another 4 years at least. If we do sign him I'm pretty sure we would win the title back in the next few years, he would make that much of an impact.
Exactly.
It's hard to fathom why people arbitrarily choose 30 as the benchmark for physical decline. It may be justified in some cases but like you pointed out - he is a physical marvel, the reigning Ballon D'Or winner and still one of the top 3 players in the world. Even if he's unable to function as a wide midfielder, we could field Ronaldo as a striker and he could easily score 30+ goals at the very least for each of the next 4-5 seasons. Not to mention the kind of lessons in blue collar work ethic he could impart to our crop of young players - most notably Januzaj and Wilson. They just couldn't find a better professional to follow and learn from. Adding Ronaldo and another top quality CB could conceivably make us one of the best teams in Europe and certainly the best in England. Non brainer really from a footballing point of view.
If we sign him, we will win the title next season and the CL again within the next few years.
The 40 goals he'll get will add will be more than enough, especially in Mourinho's notoriously bad 3rd season.
2 million a month? Blimey.
Hmmmmm
Great player, one of the best ever, but seems to think that he is in charge at a club and I am not sure he would actually be good for the team. Grateful for the years we had from him but we should move on.
It's on
Would love him to come back... Not sure if this can realistically happen as soon as say, January, as I think he'd want to at least try and win the Champions League again while he's definitely in it. If we don't finish in the top four this season, then it might be more of a stretch for us to manage to bring him back. Despite all the deals and money we generate, I think it's clear that making the Champions League and running a budget on finishing third are what can definitely make this deal happen.
How much would we be looking at though? They'll surely get more than £50million out of us.
Would love him to come back... Not sure if this can realistically happen as soon as say, January, as I think he'd want to at least try and win the Champions League again while he's definitely in it. If we don't finish in the top four this season, then it might be more of a stretch for us to manage to bring him back. Despite all the deals and money we generate, I think it's clear that making the Champions League and running a budget on finishing third are what can definitely make this deal happen.
How much would we be looking at though? They'll surely get more than £50million out of us.
So long as this remains a hypothetical 'would we want him' type discussion there will always be people saying no and that we should move on etc.
Guarantee that if it did happen, though, not a single person would be moaning about it.
Guarantee that if it did happen, though, not a single person would be moaning about it.
He seems to have much more power at Madrid than he did at United, which is mainly down to the fact that their managers lack the power Fergie had. He will do quite well under LvG imo, as their personalities will match up similar to when Fergie was his manager.
Mata, our current best goalscorer, missing from these formations being posted.
I like Mata.
I like Mata.
I'm not.. I'd swap Wayne for Cristiano without even having to think about it.
Well if a player who wanted to leave twice is now our captain and soon to be our top scorer, then why can't Ronaldo come back?
Had someone like Young got away with wanting to leave twice? God he would have been out of the club before he even had the time to change his story a day later like Rooney did. But as Rooney is miles better than Young he is still here. That's how football works nowadays.
And the same should then apply to Ronaldo who at the same time is miles better than Rooney. So if Rooney can get away with things because he is good, Ronaldo, too can get away with them, because he actually is much more than good!
But maybe some should as we need a CB and a CM most we agree. Arguably a RB as well for cover/competition for Rafael. Rumour is we will prob go for Hummels and Strootman and many would see those rumours are probably accurate in the Jan/Summer windows. If Falcao has a good season we can assume we will sign him as well. Just how much debt would Ronaldo in addition to them put us in? We would be challenging on all fronts without him. He would be the wrong side of 29. Not past it but on the wane and only going in one direction lets say. To be fair I'd rather spend that money on the next ronaldo or a young player with the next decade to look forward to.....but thats just me.
Given how well he takes care of himself, I suspect his "decline" in his 30s will just mean he scores 20 goals a season instead of 40 and moves inside from the wings like Giggs did. I think he will still be able to contribute greatly for a number of seasons.
Exactly, he's not a normal player either as mentioned before his physique and exceptional talent will mean he can carry on. Just look at Arjen Robben and Zlatan Ibrahimovic who you can say have improved rather than declined after hitting 30, it's not a set rule once you hit 30 it's over.
If we're gonna bring him back, I wanna see RVP sold. I'd put Ronnie upfront with Rooney, Di Maria and Januzaj behind him. Can't see it happening personally.
If it were to happen, which for the record I don't expect it will, it wouldn't stand in the way of bringing in the required defensive additions as well.
As for Falcao, I don't see it being a problem to have him as well, if anything it'll probably be RvP that should depart next summer.
We've just demonstrated quite profoundly that money isn't a problem for us. If the club come to the conclusion that the money is there to bring Ronaldo back that would be good enough for me.
Like I say, though, doubt it'll happen.
Now, that's cheating...
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Probably fair. I dont want him back but its not something I can imagine moaning about. Its more just a complete lack of enthusiasm for the idea. Id rather we spent money elsewhere. But yes, given the choice between buying Ronaldo and a kick in the nuts, Id certainly take signing Ronaldo.
I don't understand this idea that if we buy Ronaldo we can't buy a defender or midfielder. If you haven't already noticed money is not an issue and there is no rule that if you buy a attacker you are not allowed to buy a defender.
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Ronaldo to play centre half
Now, that's cheating...
Falcao on the right?
At some stage money will be an issue. We cant just go on spending it at this rate indefinitely.
Or maybe we can and we really will turn into Real Madrid Mark II. That would be a turn up for the books.
But Im still working on the assumption that there are some financial constraints on us and that buying Ronaldo would have implications for our ability to invest elsewhere.
Or maybe we can and we really will turn into Real Madrid Mark II. That would be a turn up for the books.
But Im still working on the assumption that there are some financial constraints on us and that buying Ronaldo would have implications for our ability to invest elsewhere.
He ain't coming...
It's not just the money for me, it's taking our Gaalactico policy to the next level and going full Madrid. Whereby we pretty much give up any hope of bringing through academy products into the first team. I wouldn't enjoy supporting a team with that approach.
we helped develop Ronaldo and turn him into the player he is today. Di Maria and Falcao I can see as "galactico" signings (although much needed, particularly Di Maria, so it's not like they were bought for the sake of it unlike Madrid) -- but Ronaldo would not be. it would just be bringing back one of the club's legends to take us back to the top, win another CL, and then retire.
Me neither. Ive had contempt for Madrid for years for conducting themselves this way, it wont sit comfortably for me at all if we go down the same road.
This summer was great. And also necessary. And Im all for spending big fairly regularly to stay competitive. We'll have to if we want to stay even close to the top in this league. Its hard to draw a line and say this is what we need to do and should do, but beyond that we are becoming too much like Madrid. So this conversation is always going to be very difficult. But I instinctively feel signing Ronaldo would be over that line.
This summer was great. And also necessary. And Im all for spending big fairly regularly to stay competitive. We'll have to if we want to stay even close to the top in this league. Its hard to draw a line and say this is what we need to do and should do, but beyond that we are becoming too much like Madrid. So this conversation is always going to be very difficult. But I instinctively feel signing Ronaldo would be over that line.
Yawn. The same thing has had happened the past couple of seasons "Ronaldo unhappy at Real Madrid" blah blah. Gets United fans all giddy and then he comes out and says he's happy, like last summer when United fans got all giddy then he signed a new contract and said "Manchester United is the past". He isn't coming back, you'll never learn.
with the FFP rules the way they are, and United's revenues dwarfing any other club in England, i can only see us becoming stronger and stronger. i forsee a mini league of super clubs (us, Madrid, Barca and Bayern) who will be the only ones who can afford the top, top players going forward. whether that is good for the league(s) is another thing, of course.
I agree to an extent, but this is Cristiano Ronaldo we are talking about, currently the worlds best player. A player who was actually developed at MUFC, an exception can be made for him..
I doubt signing a player who we developed would turn us into Galactico era Madrid. On the other hand, doing what we did this summer again next year might just do that. Not that its needed mind. Buying a Ronaldo (again a player who we developed in the first place) would make sense, whereas a summer of 4 or 5 big transfers would be ominous for our youth policy.
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