Cristiano Ronaldo

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Saying all this, do we really think Madrid will even entertain the notion of selling him? haha. He has 4 years left on his contract and is no longer holding the cards. Maybe £50million wouldn't be enough even for a 29 year old, I think we'd have to probably break the world transfer record to sign him.

I'd still do it mind.
 
You don't turn a 30 year Ronaldo down, he is. Once in a lifetime player and will do enough to paper over most cracks!
You can, and you do. Why paper over the cracks when you can actually repair them by spending in the apt areas?

I dunno what planet you're from but on Earth it's possible to sign more than 1 player per transfer window. Basically we could sign Ronaldo and still bring in defenders and midfielders for our squad.

Also your notion of "Balance" is pretty funny, we need quality wingers just as much as any position right now, Ronaldo would basically replace Valencia and Young, so how's that for squad balance..
Haha, funny quip there mate, I certainly didn't know that!
Ronaldo wouldn't be replacing Valencia and Young, as neither have played as wingers this season. Both are clearly seen as wingbacks. Those who were seen as wingers - Zaha and Nani - were discarded. Will Ronaldo be playing wingback? Also, classifying Ronaldo as a winger is a very liberal use of the term. He's far more of a left inside forward who will need a player to do an extra shift defensively to cover him as he does none of that himself. Why are you so aggressive in your reply?
If we are to play the diamond - we don't need another winger. We have di Maria and Januzaj to provide width, and could make another signing such as Depay to be an option as a wide player. If we are to sign Ronaldo, it will most definitely mean that two of Rooney, Mata, van Persie and Falcao (should he stay) will have to be discarded. What do we do with them?

Ronaldo makes as many problems as he solves, and I can understand the sentimentality in bringing back such a great player, but I just personally wouldn't want it to happen.
 
Saying all this, do we really think Madrid will even entertain the notion of selling him? haha. He has 4 years left on his contract and is no longer holding the cards. Maybe £50million wouldn't be enough even for a 29 year old, I think we'd have to probably break the world transfer record to sign him.

I'd still do it mind.

He's 30 in February, if the transfer were to happen it wouldn't be for a world record fee, nowhere near.
 
Saying all this, do we really think Madrid will even entertain the notion of selling him? haha. He has 4 years left on his contract and is no longer holding the cards. Maybe £50million wouldn't be enough even for a 29 year old, I think we'd have to probably break the world transfer record to sign him.

I'd still do it mind.
Yeah, with fans apparently dissatisfied with Perez this summer I'm not sure he could risk selling Ronnie.

Too bad for Madrid he's coming home.
 
We stand to make record profits next year with our Adidas deal kicking in and UCL money (if we qualify) so the image of blowing our transfer kitty on Ronaldo is an over reaction.
 
You can, and you do. Why paper over the cracks when you can actually repair them by spending in the apt areas?

Haha, funny quip there mate, I certainly didn't know that!
Ronaldo wouldn't be replacing Valencia and Young, as neither have played as wingers this season. Both are clearly seen as wingbacks. Those who were seen as wingers - Zaha and Nani - were discarded. Will Ronaldo be playing wingback? Also, classifying Ronaldo as a winger is a very liberal use of the term. He's far more of a left inside forward who will need a player to do an extra shift defensively to cover him as he does none of that himself. Why are you so aggressive in your reply?
If we are to play the diamond - we don't need another winger. We have di Maria and Januzaj to provide width, and could make another signing such as Depay to be an option as a wide player. If we are to sign Ronaldo, it will most definitely mean that two of Rooney, Mata, van Persie and Falcao (should he stay) will have to be discarded. What do we do with them?

Ronaldo makes as many problems as he solves, and I can understand the sentimentality in bringing back such a great player, but I just personally wouldn't want it to happen.

Thankfully you are not the manager! It would be a great signing!
 
You can, and you do. Why paper over the cracks when you can actually repair them by spending in the apt areas?

Haha, funny quip there mate, I certainly didn't know that!
Ronaldo wouldn't be replacing Valencia and Young, as neither have played as wingers this season. Both are clearly seen as wingbacks. Those who were seen as wingers - Zaha and Nani - were discarded. Will Ronaldo be playing wingback? Also, classifying Ronaldo as a winger is a very liberal use of the term. He's far more of a left inside forward who will need a player to do an extra shift defensively to cover him as he does none of that himself. Why are you so aggressive in your reply?
If we are to play the diamond - we don't need another winger. We have di Maria and Januzaj to provide width, and could make another signing such as Depay to be an option as a wide player. If we are to sign Ronaldo, it will most definitely mean that two of Rooney, Mata, van Persie and Falcao (should he stay) will have to be discarded. What do we do with them?

Ronaldo makes as many problems as he solves, and I can understand the sentimentality in bringing back such a great player, but I just personally wouldn't want it to happen.
How can you say that Ronaldo would make as many problems as he'd solve with a straight face? Baffling nonsense.
 
How can you say that Ronaldo would make as many problems as he'd solve with a straight face? Baffling nonsense.
I understand he's held in super, super high regards here but let's be serious. The amount of goals he'll get is great, but he'll just put further pressure on us defensively. Simple as that.
 
He is still world-class and by a mile the 2nd best player in the world and will be another while. If he wants to come and we have the financial ability, then this a no-brainer.
 
Not sure if serious...we didnt play with orthodox wingers yesterday and Ronnie isnt really a winger anymore. If he does come it will be upfront.

OK seriously then: I'd guess if we take yesterday's line-up as a starting point then one of Rooney/RVP/Falcao starts with Ronaldo in the other forward position, with Mata in at number 10? Otherwise a return for Ronaldo might open-up a few more possibilities in terms of formation variation.
 

It doesn't though.

Using his lack of defensive help to suggest not buying him when he'd probably be top scorer for at least the next few years is a bit ridiculous.

Lets face it, there's only so many times we can be linked with him until he actually comes back, I think we've reached it.

If he's that unhappy then lump a £60m bid for him in January and see what Madrid say, we don't need to worry about Europe so it doesn't matter that he's cup tied.
 
I understand he's held in super, super high regards here but let's be serious. The amount of goals he'll get is great, but he'll just put further pressure on us defensively. Simple as that.

Guesstimate that Ronaldo is the cause of 5 goals from not back tracking, but scores 50. There's no much pressure on the defense if we're winning 1-0 and Ronaldo bangs in a further 2-3 goals.
 
I expected Neville to throw cold water on this but he reckons it might happen, said there's been rumours that he is unhappy and now he's won the CL there he might have achieved what he wanted. Di Maria and Falcao joining mean it is now possible in his mind.
 
It doesn't though.

Using his lack of defensive help to suggest not buying him when he'd probably be top scorer for at least the next few years is a bit ridiculous.
Because we already have three players who will be our top goalscorers for the next three years. Alongside one who has 8 in his last 10. We don't need his goalscoring accolades, we need defensive improvements.
 
Guesstimate that Ronaldo is the cause of 5 goals from not back tracking, but scores 50. There's no much pressure on the defense if we're winning 1-0 and Ronaldo bangs in a further 2-3 goals.
I agree there, but we are still very far away from a defence good enough to compensate.
 
The club would take him IMO. He's the most marketable footballer in the world. He'd sell a shit load of shirts on his return, please sponsors and probably still tear the league apart for a few seasons.
 
We just dump our captain? Okay.

Are you one of those that thinks he's undroppable because he's captain?

If not, then he's not unsellable either. He's a similar age to Ronaldo, on a downward trajectory and about a million times worse as a player too.
 
Because we already have three players who will be our top goalscorers for the next three years. Alongside one who has 8 in his last 10. We don't need his goalscoring accolades, we need defensive improvements.


I'm convinced you're either wumming, or actually don't know who C.Ronaldo is. Why the hell would you worry about defensive issues(which can easily be solved in the same window) when we'd be bringing back a goal machine even Falcao would be dwarfed by?
 
Guesstimate that Ronaldo is the cause of 5 goals from not back tracking, but scores 50. There's no much pressure on the defense if we're winning 1-0 and Ronaldo bangs in a further 2-3 goals.

People underestimate the effect having Ronaldo in the team would have on the opposition attacking. We talk about needing the fear factor back and making Old Trafford a fortress but last time we had that, we had Ronaldo in the team.

There'd be much less of teams having a go at us and exposing our weaknesses if they're shit scared of getting done on the counter by Di Maria, Ronaldo and co.
 
I agree there, but we are still very far away from a defence good enough to compensate.

We've plenty of time between now and next September to strengthen the further positions we need to challenge. I can honestly see us signing a world class CB and possibly Strootman between now and then which would leave plenty of money left to get Ronaldo.

Using Hummels as an example.


------De Gea
Rafa-Hummels-Rojo-Shaw
-----Blind/Strootman---Herrera
Di Maria-Mata/Rooney-Ronaldo
--------Falcao/RVP

Great depth not to include Smalling, Jones for CB cover.
 
We've plenty of time between now and next September to strengthen the further positions we need to challenge. I can honestly see us signing a world class CB and possibly Strootman between now and then which would leave plenty of money left to get Ronaldo.

Using Hummels as an example.


------De Gea
Rafa-Hummels-Rojo-Shaw
-----Blind/Strootman---Herrera
Di Maria-Mata/Rooney-Ronaldo
--------Falcao/RVP

Great depth not to include Smalling, Jones for CB cover.
I guess so. I don't think Strootman - Herrera as a pivot will be strong enough defensively. Whilst both are aggressive and tough tacklers, both love to get forward and involved in attacks. I think we'd need a three man midfield; an anchor with those infront to accomodate Ronaldo. But I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
If we could get 9 decent years out of Giggs after he turned 30, I'm sure we could get a few out of Ronnie.

You get the sense that, like Giggs, he's the consummate professional athlete, and will do the work needed to keep his body in peak physical condition.

If he can stay clear of injuries, I could honestly see him lasting as long as Giggsy. How his role may change in those hypothetical 9 years I think is the really interesting question.
 
You get the sense that, like Giggs, he's the consummate professional athlete, and will do the work needed to keep his body in peak physical condition.

If he can stay clear of injuries, I could honestly see him lasting as long as Giggsy. How his role may change in those hypothetical 9 years I think is the really interesting question.

He could potentially become more of a number 9 type striker if he does start to lose his pace as he ages. He's still going to have a lot of ability, his finishing will in all likelihood remain superb and he's great at his heading. Even if he's not as good as he is now, I think he can be a top player well into his 30's.
 
Ballbag has gained a little credibility back recently so I'll post this.



 
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It would be disappointing if he signs for another PL team but I don't see it happening. All my friends have been posting every single article on this it's driving me nuts because I really think he could make a big difference alongside Di Maria. They're familiar with each other and Di Maria had the pace to match his. They'll rip any defense apart.
 
Unless Falcao is incredible this season, I wouldn't sign him if we're to get Ronaldo. Getting Ronaldo essentially forces us to play him and Di Maria wide and for balance I think we'd be better off playing a single striker up front.
 
So your assumption is that if we sign Ronaldo next summer, that we do not do anything to improve elsewhere.
A huge amount will go on Ronaldo, though. Will we put the same amount on a CB?
 
Unless Falcao is incredible this season, I wouldn't sign him if we're to get Ronaldo. Getting Ronaldo essentially forces us to play him and Di Maria wide and for balance I think we'd be better off playing a single striker up front.

Who better to have inside a front 3 of Ronaldo and Di Maria than Falcao though? Frightening.
 
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