Cristiano Ronaldo

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Did anyone else catch Ray Hudson's jizzing over Messi's goals and his obvious less excitement when Ronaldo scored?

I can't stand watching La Liga matches when that guy is commentating, especially Barca matches.
 
MrMarcello said:
Did anyone else catch Ray Hudson's jizzing over Messi's goals and his obvious less excitement when Ronaldo scored?

I can't stand watching La Liga matches when that guy is commentating, especially Barca matches.
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so it's sort of the opposite from on here? :lol:
 
Ray is a character but has previously stated he's a Madridista, if he's less effusive in his praise for CR - I imagine it's for the obvious reasons
 
For the statto trivia collection. Ronaldo's first goal against Barcelona came in April 2011 (during that string of clasicos they played) from the penalty spot and it was followed a week later by him getting the winner in the Copa del Rey final. So all his goals have come in the past 18 months.

With ten goals against Barcelona, they are now his favourite team to score against (along with Malaga) - surpassing the 9 he clocked up against Aston Villa.
 
FCBarca said:
Ray is a character but has previously stated he's a Madridista, if he's less effusive in his praise for CR - I imagine it's for the obvious reasons
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No one would ever guess this the case with his unrestrained joy each time Barca complete a pass or Messi does something in the attacking half.
 
Isn't it normal to talk football up a bit on the tele in the US? Can't imagine you get similar commentary as you do in nations where it's THE sport. Understandable that he'd be praising Messi and if he's sucking on the other teams teat in his free time it's also understandable that he'll refrain to praise it that much so as to not look biased. It's a swerving line to dance on.
 
Played his 100th game for Portugal last night. Third highest capped Portuguese player.
 
Made Corry Evans looked world class too.
 
kafta said:
Played his 100th game for Portugal last night. Third highest capped Portuguese player.
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feck me. 100 Already?! That's insane. He's only 27, I wouldn't put it past him playing for the NT until he is 35 and getting 200 caps.
 
Pexbo said:
feck me. 100 Already?! That's insane. He's only 27, I wouldn't put it past him playing for the NT until he is 35 and getting 200 caps.
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I don't think he cares enough to play for the national team past 32 imo.
 
Lynk said:
I don't think he cares enough to play for the national team past 32 imo.
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This is the guy who breaks down crying every time his team are knocked out of a major tournament. I'd say he cares enough.
 
He breaks down crying because he doesn't win anything.
 
Wow, 100 international caps at age 27 is special.

It obviously helps that you're a machine who hardly ever misses a game!

Maybe in his 30's (if he slows a bit etc) he can morph into the CF that Portugal's always lacked!

For interest sake, how many caps does Rooney have? Seen as he started his international career before Ronny. (I know he's injured/suspended a bit more as well).
 
I take he he never played that well last night then? I haven't seen the highlights. Would have been good to see him get a hattrick on his 100th cap.
 
Ish84045 said:
Wow, 100 international caps at age 27 is special.

It obviously helps that you're a machine who hardly ever misses a game!

Maybe in his 30's (if he slows a bit etc) he can morph into the CF that Portugal's always lacked!

For interest sake, how many caps does Rooney have? Seen as he started his international career before Ronny. (I know he's injured/suspended a bit more as well).
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Rooney has 71 caps, and him and Ronaldo both made their first cap in 2003.
 
Podolskis record is even more impressive, considering the fight for a place in the german side. 105 games so far, only 27 aswell.
 
kleberson_ said:
Podolskis record is even more impressive, considering the fight for a place in the german side. 105 games so far, only 27 aswell.
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Yes, they're all born in 85, and Podolski has actually scored more international goals (44) than Ronaldo (37) and Rooney (33) as well.
 
Portugal is lucky that he's Portugese. All of the players in that team look especially mediocre after the Figo and Rui Costa era
 
SATA said:
Portugal is lucky that he's Portugese. All of the players in that team look especially mediocre after the Figo and Rui Costa era
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"played without ronaldo"

"our biggest star didnt appear in his 100th game"
 
Kid Cunto said:
He can come play for Ireland if Portugal don't want him.
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He does have a knack for completely disappearing in anything that has to do with the World Cup, be it the qualifiers or the tournament proper. For some reason his goalscoring form in the EUROs is double that of his WC campaigns. It's quite strange actually.

In contrast:

World Cup Qualifying: 23 apps (23 GS), 8 goals, 6 assists -- 0.35 gpg
World Cup: 10 apps (10 GS), 2 goals, 1 assist -- 0.20 gpg

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EURO Qualifying: 21 apps (21 GS), 15 goals, 3 assists -- 0.71 gpg
EURO: 14 (12 GS), 6 goals, 3 assists -- 0.43 gpg
 
Skorenzy said:
He does have a knack for completely disappearing in anything that has to do with the World Cup, be it the qualifiers or the tournament proper. For some reason his goalscoring form in the EUROs is double that of his WC campaigns. It's quite strange actually.

In contrast:

World Cup Qualifying: 23 apps (23 GS), 8 goals, 6 assists -- 0.35 gpg
World Cup: 10 apps (10 GS), 2 goals, 1 assist -- 0.20 gpg

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EURO Qualifying: 21 apps (21 GS), 15 goals, 3 assists -- 0.71 gpg
EURO: 14 (12 GS), 6 goals, 3 assists -- 0.43 gpg
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The Irish would give their left nut to have a player who has stats like that while he's disappears. :D
 
Skorenzy said:
He does have a knack for completely disappearing in anything that has to do with the World Cup, be it the qualifiers or the tournament proper. For some reason his goalscoring form in the EUROs is double that of his WC campaigns. It's quite strange actually.

In contrast:

World Cup Qualifying: 23 apps (23 GS), 8 goals, 6 assists -- 0.35 gpg
World Cup: 10 apps (10 GS), 2 goals, 1 assist -- 0.20 gpg

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EURO Qualifying: 21 apps (21 GS), 15 goals, 3 assists -- 0.71 gpg
EURO: 14 (12 GS), 6 goals, 3 assists -- 0.43 gpg
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Not that strange. Portugal doesn't score many goals. They didn't score in 3 games last WC and in the game they did score in the goals were divided evenly among 6 players. In the qualifiers for that tournament they averaged 1,7 goals per game.

They're normally pretty passive and they seriously need a proper striker. Put Falcao in that team and they'd be one of the favorites.
 
Snow said:
Not that strange. Portugal doesn't score many goals. They didn't score in 3 games last WC and in the game they did score in the goals were divided evenly among 6 players. In the qualifiers for that tournament they averaged 1,7 goals per game.

They're normally pretty passive and they seriously need a proper striker. Put Falcao in that team and they'd be one of the favorites.
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Not sure you're getting my point. Isn't it strange that he's scoring at twice the rate in EC and ECQ than in WC and WCQ, considering for the most part he'll encounter the same (European) opponents (apart from the WC proper)

WCQ: 0.35 gpg <=> ECQ: 0.71 gpg


WCQ 2006: Cristiano played in all 12 games, scoring 7 goals (Portugal scored 35 in those 12 games)
ECQ 2008: Cristiano played in 13 games, scoring 8 goals (Portugal scored 22 in those 13 games)
WCQ 2010: Cristiano played in only 7 games, scoring 0 goals (also 0 assists) (Portugal scored 7 goals in those 7 games)
ECQ 2012: Cristiano played in only 6 games, scoring 5 goals (Portugal scored 17 goals in those 6 games) + 2 playoff games, scoring 2 goals (Portugal 6)

He scores more, at a better rate and as a larger pecentage of Portugal's total goals in ECQ as opposed to WCQ. The same is true for the actual tournaments.

Why the huge discrepancy between WC and EC? It just struck me as strange, that's all.
 
Skorenzy said:
Not sure you're getting my point. Isn't it strange that he's scoring at twice the rate in EC and ECQ than in WC and WCQ, considering for the most part he'll encounter the same (European) opponents (apart from the WC proper)

WCQ: 0.35 gpg <=> ECQ: 0.71 gpg


WCQ 2006: Cristiano played in all 12 games, scoring 7 goals (Portugal scored 35 in those 12 games)
ECQ 2008: Cristiano played in 13 games, scoring 8 goals (Portugal scored 22 in those 13 games)
WCQ 2010: Cristiano played in only 7 games, scoring 0 goals (also 0 assists) (Portugal scored 7 goals in those 7 games)
ECQ 2012: Cristiano played in only 6 games, scoring 5 goals (Portugal scored 17 goals in those 6 games) + 2 playoff games, scoring 2 goals (Portugal 6)

He scores more, at a better rate and as a larger pecentage of Portugal's total goals in ECQ as opposed to WCQ. The same is true for the actual tournaments.

Why the huge discrepancy between WC and EC? It just struck me as strange, that's all.
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European teams are more comfortable playing in Europe. It's not the same having to go to Ukraine and play football and going to S-Africa to do so.

Also, a national team can vary from year to year by quite a lot, be it because of player changes or managerial changes. They also had what, 3 different coaches leading up to the WC in 2010 and one of their best players wasn't playing.
I'm sure Ronaldo himself also hasn't been playing the same way either.

There's no real answer. Netherlands were in the WC final in 2010 but were rubbish this year despite destroying opponents in the qualifiers.
 
Snow said:
European teams are more comfortable playing in Europe. It's not the same having to go to Ukraine and play football and going to S-Africa to do so.

Also, a national team can vary from year to year by quite a lot, be it because of player changes or managerial changes. They also had what, 3 different coaches leading up to the WC in 2010 and one of their best players wasn't playing.
I'm sure Ronaldo himself also hasn't been playing the same way either.

There's no real answer. Netherlands were in the WC final in 2010 but were rubbish this year despite destroying opponents in the qualifiers.
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The thing is as a European team you play only European teams during the WC qualifier so there should be no difference for him.
 
Snow said:
European teams are more comfortable playing in Europe. It's not the same having to go to Ukraine and play football and going to S-Africa to do so.

Also, a national team can vary from year to year by quite a lot, be it because of player changes or managerial changes. They also had what, 3 different coaches leading up to the WC in 2010 and one of their best players wasn't playing.
I'm sure Ronaldo himself also hasn't been playing the same way either.

There's no real answer. Netherlands were in the WC final in 2010 but were rubbish this year despite destroying opponents in the qualifiers.
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I think what he means is "strange" is that ECQ & WCQ will have essentially the same opponents, yet Ron scores at double the rate in ECQ.
 
Skorenzy said:
Not sure you're getting my point. Isn't it strange that he's scoring at twice the rate in EC and ECQ than in WC and WCQ, considering for the most part he'll encounter the same (European) opponents (apart from the WC proper)

WCQ: 0.35 gpg <=> ECQ: 0.71 gpg


WCQ 2006: Cristiano played in all 12 games, scoring 7 goals (Portugal scored 35 in those 12 games)
ECQ 2008: Cristiano played in 13 games, scoring 8 goals (Portugal scored 22 in those 13 games)
WCQ 2010: Cristiano played in only 7 games, scoring 0 goals (also 0 assists) (Portugal scored 7 goals in those 7 games)
ECQ 2012: Cristiano played in only 6 games, scoring 5 goals (Portugal scored 17 goals in those 6 games) + 2 playoff games, scoring 2 goals (Portugal 6)

He scores more, at a better rate and as a larger pecentage of Portugal's total goals in ECQ as opposed to WCQ. The same is true for the actual tournaments.

Why the huge discrepancy between WC and EC? It just struck me as strange, that's all.
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How about coincidence? It's not like you have large sample size to base this on.. All in all, it's just a few games.
 
He did fine for Scolari in 2006 - remember that was before "42 goal season" Ronaldo, so 7 goals in 12 games was a good run from him.

It was the 2010 campaign that was bad for Ronaldo. What was special about 2008/10? It was the Queiroz campaign and though you'd think that could have been a boost to him, it was actually dreadful. The tactics were bad, the team was bad, Ronaldo was bad.
 
Cristiano_RAFC said:
How about coincidence? It's not like you have large sample size to base this on.. All in all, it's just a few games.
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Well... taking all his WC/WCQ and EC/ECQ appearances together it would look like this:

- WC+WCQ: 33 apps (33 GS), 10 goals, 7 assists -- 0.32 gpg
- EC+ECQ: 35 apps (33 GS), 21 goals, 6 assists -- 0.60 gpg

Together that's 68% of his 100 caps, so a quite relevant sample size in my book.

Coincidence is a valid possibility of course, but you can dismiss everything as such.


As an aside: his favourite opponents are the Netherlands with 3goals+1assist in 3 apps (all scored in EURO :D), his bogey team (and everybody's really) is Spain with no goals/assists in 4 apps.

edit: though he did rip the shit out of them in that one friendly
 
Skorenzy said:
Well... taking all his WC/WCQ and EC/ECQ appearances together it would look like this:

- WC+WCQ: 33 apps (33 GS), 10 goals, 7 assists -- 0.32 gpg
- EC+ECQ: 35 apps (33 GS), 21 goals, 6 assists -- 0.60 gpg

Together that's 68% of his 100 caps, so a quite relevant sample size in my book.

Coincidence is a valid possibility of course, but you can dismiss everything as such.


As an aside: his favourite opponents are the Netherlands with 3goals+1assist in 3 apps (all scored in EURO :D), his bogey team (and everybody's really) is Spain with no goals/assists in 4 apps.

edit: though he did rip the shit out of them in that one friendly
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Relatively speaking it's a good sample size, but in absolute numbers it's a small one and considering the similar circumstances (especially in the qualifiers, the actual tournament can be argued of course), it seems doubtful that there is any consequential reason for his goalscoring return in the different qualifiers. I don't know who the oponnents where in all, but there's more reasons to be found there, or perhaps in the way Portugal played and who managed them or something.

But sure, it is an interesting fact nonetheless.

Edit: Love how the dutch are his favourite opponents. :)Their defence is aweful.
 
"Sem" (without) is spelled just like 100 in Portuguese, hence the Bola cover. He didn't do nothing worthy of note but was far from being our worst player.

I think we should play him as striker, we simply don't have any other options for that position, it's laughable that Postiga still gets games.

Our team is terribly unbalanced at the moment, with an average midfield and no striker. The worse is that there really aren't any exciting youngsters coming up, for any position. Nelson Oliveira might become a decent striker but that's about it, no one in his age group comes close to being a prospect for the top level. It won't take long for a team like Belgium (if managed properly and the players evolve as expected) to surpass us in terms of quality.
 
Arruda said:
"Sem" (without) is spelled just like 100 in Portuguese, hence the Bola cover. He didn't do nothing worthy of note but was far from being our worst player.

I think we should play him as striker, we simply don't have any other options for that position, it's laughable that Postiga still gets games.

Our team is terribly unbalanced at the moment, with an average midfield and no striker. The worse is that there really aren't any exciting youngsters coming up, for any position. Nelson Oliveira might become a decent striker but that's about it, no one in his age group comes close to being a prospect for the top level. It won't take long for a team like Belgium (if managed properly and the players evolve as expected) to surpass us in terms of quality.
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Actually, the current Portugal remind me a lot of Belgium, except without the same solidity. Just like you we lack creativity (although the inclusion of De Bruyne has finally(!) changed that) and are most comfortable on the counter. But at the moment I don't see us having such a good display like your EURO 2012, because we lack the defensive solidity against top sides (that too seems to have changed a bit, with only 1 goal conceded in 4 WCQ games so far, but our fulback problem persists and DM and striker areas also problematic)
 
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