Cristiano Ronaldo

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Mundo Deportivo claims that Ronaldo has fallen out with Perez. Their theory goes that CR wants more money because Perez is using the re-signing of Ronaldo as a booster to Perez's re-election campaign.

I dont see it being just about the money.

He's in a difficult position. He clearly wants to win things, abnd it hasnt really worked out at Madrid as he probably hoped. Jose is moving on so they enter another period of transition. They may therefore, not be competing for CL honours for a couple of years.

His next contract is the big one for him, maybe his last a top club. I can see why's not sure, if indeed that is the case.
 
Yes, same here! I'd love for Ronaldo to come back, but a Gündogan + Bale transfer (which ain't happening!) would be far better for us.

Anyone who thinks United would be daft enough to pay over the odds for him are mad.

He's older, has two years left on his contract and might actually be keen to move on. If so, they can sell him now or lose him for less next summer, or nothing the summer after.
 
Anyone who thinks United would be daft enough to pay over the odds for him are mad.

He's older, has two years left on his contract and might actually be keen to move on. If so, they can sell him now or lose him for less next summer, or nothing the summer after.

To be fair, we did pay 18m for Ashley Young who had one year left on his contract. And it's hard to say what constitutes "paying over the odds" in Ronaldo's case.
 
Fantastic player that he is, I don't want Ronaldo back. He's not exactly the epitome of a team player, even if he has grown up a bit.
 
I don't believe that they are ready to pay £25m for Hernandez to be fair.

Why not? I sincerely believe that he is better than both of their strikers. Make him a first team player and he can score 25+ goals in a season (in Spain probably more).

Also, I think that they can use him for marketing deals, his reputation is pretty big in Mexico.
 
I dont see it being just about the money.

He's in a difficult position. He clearly wants to win things, abnd it hasnt really worked out at Madrid as he probably hoped. Jose is moving on so they enter another period of transition. They may therefore, not be competing for CL honours for a couple of years.

His next contract is the bog one for him, maybe his last a top club. I can see why's not sure, if indeed that is the case.

I don't see him slowing down any time soon. He's an absolute physical specimen that never is injured.
 
Would love to see him back. 29 is nothing. Zidane did well at the same age when he joined Madrid, and given Ronaldo's conditioning, its likely he could continue (like Zidane) playing at a very high level into his mid 30s.
 
Would love to see him back. 29 is nothing. Zidane did well at the same age when he joined Madrid, and given Ronaldo's conditioning, its likely he could continue (like Zidane) playing at a very high level into his mid 30s.

I think it's all the more reason that he'll run down his contract and move on a free to the next club. This will increase his salary as he'll get a massive signing on fee and he'll continue to play at Madrid due to his profile and already existing fat contract.

It's highly impossible that the next club is us, but surely this is not happening this season for sure.
 
Would love to see him back. 29 is nothing. Zidane did well at the same age when he joined Madrid, and given Ronaldo's conditioning, its likely he could continue (like Zidane) playing at a very high level into his mid 30s.

Completely different players though. Huge part of Ronaldo's game is based on his physicality which will obviously decline with age. Zidane's game was pure technique which allows you to play at a higher level for longer.
 
Completely different players though. Huge part of Ronaldo's game is based on his physicality which will obviously decline with age. Zidane's game was pure technique which allows you to play at a higher level for longer.

True, but Ronaldo has some incredible technique as well, arguably better than Zidane's. I wouldn't worry about Ronaldo being a spent force until he's 35 or 36.
 
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Found this on facebook. He still loves us! or just himself :lol:.
 
Why not? I sincerely believe that he is better than both of their strikers. Make him a first team player and he can score 25+ goals in a season (in Spain probably more).

Also, I think that they can use him for marketing deals, his reputation is pretty big in Mexico.

Yeah, Hernandez would score a fecking bucket load of goals for Madrid.
 
Yeah, Hernandez would score a fecking bucket load of goals for Madrid.

Had Hernandez been on the end of some of those Higuain chances midweek Madrid would be going to Wembley. With the relatively poor standard of defending in La Liga and Xabi Alonso to play him in time and time again Chicharito would have a Hugo Sanchez like goal getting record if he went to Real.
 
True, but Ronaldo has some incredible technique as well, arguably better than Zidane's. I wouldn't worry about Ronaldo being a spent force until he's 35 or 36.

No chance. As great as Ronaldo may be.
 
I don't see him slowing down any time soon. He's an absolute physical specimen that never is injured.

Maybe, maybe not. I really mean in terms of him being at the peak of his powers - he presumably wants to do that at a top club with the absolute best chance of winning things.
 
True, but Ronaldo has some incredible technique as well, arguably better than Zidane's. I wouldn't worry about Ronaldo being a spent force until he's 35 or 36.

No chance mate, ronaldo's a far better physical specimen, but for natural ability and all out technique Zidane is way out in front.
 
Ronaldo never looked to me a player with brilliant technique. His pass and cross is very average. His dribbling technique was very good in the past though, but he has reduced the dribbling and we barely see him doing that now.
 
Ronaldo never looked to me a player with brilliant technique. His pass and cross is very average. His dribbling technique was very good in the past though, but he has reduced the dribbling and we barely see him doing that now.

Yeh, he's rubbish lets not bother eh?

Alright, maybe a swap for Bebe + cash?

What point are you trying to make?

He's an ex-BPITW and runner up on several occasions, or hadn't you noticed?
 
Yeh, he's rubbish lets not bother eh?

Alright, maybe a swap for Bebe + cash?

What point are you trying to make?

He's an ex-BPITW and runner up on several occasions, or hadn't you noticed?

Pick your dummy up.

Really don't see anything wrong with saying Ronaldo's crossing and passing is average. He isn't great at either of those things, especially passing.

What point are you trying to make?
 
Why not? I sincerely believe that he is better than both of their strikers. Make him a first team player and he can score 25+ goals in a season (in Spain probably more).

Also, I think that they can use him for marketing deals, his reputation is pretty big in Mexico.
So can their current strikers, and I think they're both technically better in overall quality on the ball, and the types of goals they can score. Benzema is one who definitely offers more in the build up, too.

Benzema scored 33 goals last season, 26 the year before. Higuain got 26 last season (in 28 starts), 29 for Pelligrini etc.
 
Yeh, he's rubbish lets not bother eh?

No he is not rubbish. Did I said that?

What point are you trying to make?

Hmm, that his pass and cross is very average. Both very important when you talk about the player technique.

He's an ex-BPITW and runner up on several occasions, or hadn't you noticed?

Again, when did I denied that he is an ex-BPITW?

What point are you trying to make now?
 
So can their current strikers, and I think they're both technically better in overall quality on the ball, and the types of goals they can score. Benzema is one who definitely offers more in the build up, too.

Benzema scored 33 goals last season, 26 the year before. Higuain got 26 last season (in 28 starts), 29 for Pelligrini etc.

Chicha is much better though in scoring decisive/important goals than both of them (especially Higuain who is rubbish at it). I can also see Chicha getting that amount of goals (he has 16 in 32 games and in many of them he was a sub, and had 20 in 45 in his first season, again in many games as a sub). He is also much better than both of them coming as a sub.

In overall, I think that he would be perfect for them. IMO he is a better player than Higuain (which I really don't rate that much) and he could fight with Benzema for the first striker position.
 
No he is not rubbish. Did I said that?



Hmm, that his pass and cross is very average. Both very important when you talk about the player technique.



Again, when did I denied that he is an ex-BPITW?

What point are you trying to make now?

You didn't have anything good to say about him though did you?

Whether you intended it or not, your post was very down on him.

And where does 'dumbo' get cry baby from? :confused:
 
You didn't have anything good to say about him though did you?

Whether you intended it or not, your post was very down on him.

And where does 'dumbo' get cry baby from? :confused:

I have talked a million times good things for Ronaldo. It was a post more in reply (though I didn't quoted) in someone who said that he arguably has a better technique than Zidane.

Your reply was really cry baby. Leave my Ronaldo alone, whoever talks bad for him is a cnut :lol:
 
No chance mate, ronaldo's a far better physical specimen, but for natural ability and all out technique Zidane is way out in front.

I can't agree with you there. Take nothing away from Zidane -- he's one of the greatest players we've seen over the last 20 years. His "technique" was sensational and he was a born winner for club and country.

Ronaldo has yet to do it for his country, so I'll grant you the edge for Zidane there. But that's of course not what we're talking about. We're talking about the relative strengths of each player's technique.

Let's review the checklist of items that add up to one's "technique":

Shooting with either foot
Heading on goal
Free kicks
Dribbling past one defender
Dribbling past several defenders
Passing
Crossing

Shooting with either foot. Ronaldo, hands down. If we can't agree on this one, then we can't move forward. Ronaldo.

Heading on goal. Yes, Zizou had those two headers in the World Cup final, but comparing Ronaldo to Zidane with respect to this skill is comparing a man to a boy. Ronaldo.

Free kicks. Ronaldo, right?

Dribbling past one defender. Ronaldo, right?

Dribbling past two several defenders. I'm going to give you a wash on this one. Ronaldo was unbelievable as a United man beating 4-5 defenders, but he's content now to take the shot or make the pass after beating one defender. Zidane never settled down in his willingness to beat defender after defender even late in his career.

Passing. I'll grant you Zidane here, but not by much. Zidane's passing was always more elegant than Ronaldo's, but Ronaldo is a very effective passer as well. The problem with Ronaldo, if you want to think of it this way, is that his game is not about making that first past out of the back (see Carrick) or building up play in the middle third -- his game is all about the final ball, either being the recipient or the provider of the final ball.

Crossing. Ronaldo was flogged by many of us for his poor crossing in his early United days. But by the end of his United days he was a very effective crosser. But Ronaldo is really not much of a winger these days, but nor was Zidane. Ronaldo comes in from wide positions with the ball and because he normally skins his defender he's in a position to take the shot or slot the final ball to one of his teammates.

Top to bottom, Ronaldo was the better footballer in terms of "technique" -- but let's be clear we're splitting hairs among two of the greatest footballers ever to play the game. If you want to have a conversation about who was the better "leader" and who showed up more often in the biggest of big games, it's Zidane all the way.
 
I have talked a million times good things for Ronaldo. It was a post more in reply (though I didn't quoted) in someone who said that he arguably has a better technique than Zidane.

Your reply was really cry baby. Leave my Ronaldo alone, whoever talks bad for him is a cnut :lol:

Not at all, it was more a what the feck are you on about reply.

Edit: Most of what Ruud said.
 
Id rather have Ronaldo then Zidane. The latter was brilliant but inconsistent. Ronaldo was always brutally effective
 
Technique isn't all about shooting from either open play or with free kicks though. That's just shooting. When people talk about technique, they usually think about how the player is with the ball at their feet, or first touch, or just how natural they seem when they get the ball at their feet. Nobody counts heading ability in technique. You can't put a list of different attributes down and say Ronaldo's better at most, therefore he has better technique. He sure as he'll doesn't have better technique than messi yet he'd probably come on top in most of those.
 
Shooting with either foot - Ronaldo, but only slightly.
Heading on goal - Ronaldo
Free kicks - Zidane
Dribbling past one defender - Tie
Dribbling past several defenders - Ronaldo
Passing - Zidane
Crossing - Zidane
Long rage passing - Zidane
First touch - Zidane


Ronaldo is physically a beast, but who had the better technique is hard to argue that Zidane was much better at it. Zidane was a great shooter but he played as a midfielder and didn't had the same opportunity like Ronaldo to shoot. It's hard to find a player who shoots more than Ronaldo.

His free kicks? Give me a break. Ronaldo scores about a free kick in 50 attempts. Wasn't he last year 'the worse' free kick taker in Europe?

Ronaldo is arguably a better player than Zidane, but not about technique. When it comes to it, he is a pupil to Zizo.
 
Shooting with either foot - Ronaldo, but only slightly.
Heading on goal - Ronaldo
Free kicks - Zidane
Dribbling past one defender - Tie
Dribbling past several defenders - Ronaldo
Passing - Zidane
Crossing - Zidane
Long rage passing - Zidane
First touch - Zidane


Ronaldo is physically a beast, but who had the better technique is hard to argue that Zidane was much better at it. Zidane was a great shooter but he played as a midfielder and didn't had the same opportunity like Ronaldo to shoot. It's hard to find a player who shoots more than Ronaldo.

His free kicks? Give me a break. Ronaldo scores about a free kick in 50 attempts. Wasn't he last year 'the worse' free kick taker in Europe?

Ronaldo is arguably a better player than Zidane, but not about technique. When it comes to it, he is a pupil to Zizo.


I believe he only had something like a 6% success rate, which is terrible for someone who is BPITW. I have said it once, and I am going to say it again, as far as I'm concerned, when it comes to free-kicks, only Juninho from Lyon stands out for me. He makes the likes of Zidane and Ronaldo look average at best.
 
Id rather have Ronaldo then Zidane. The latter was brilliant but inconsistent. Ronaldo was always brutally effective

I was going to agree with this remembering what it was like to have him... then thought about what Zidane could do for us... and now I'm feeling miserable that we have nothing like either of them. Thanks.
 
I was going to agree with this remembering what it was like to have him... then thought about what Zidane could do for us... and now I'm feeling miserable that we have nothing like either of them. Thanks.

Oh comeon we've got the one who shits on Fabregas....;)

Zidane and Ronaldo were/are freaks of nature, a rare talent indeed. However I often wonder were the great CM had gone. At a time football was blessed by CM like Scholes, Gerrard, Pirlo, Zidane, Keane etc. What happened to these type of midfielders?
 
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