In 5 games!
1 vs Denmark (group)
3 vs Belgium (group)
3 vs Yugoslavia (group)
1 vs Portugal (semi)
1 vs Spain (final)
Only 1 penalty.
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In 5 games!
1 vs Denmark (group)
3 vs Belgium (group)
3 vs Yugoslavia (group)
1 vs Portugal (semi)
1 vs Spain (final)
Only 1 penalty.
I don't know about that. He's hit some stunners over the years but he's always missed a lot too.
I think it's testament to him as a player that he has managed to adapt his game to his declining physical attributes and still stay at the very top. Lots of players drop off quickly as they can't figure out how to play within their physical abilities. Portugal have some very talented attackers including arguably the best player in the PL, yet its the 36 year old planning his retirement tour who strikes the most fear into the opposition. That's impressive.
Scored his 800th and 801st goals last night. Anyone think he can get to 1000?
As much as I’d never put anything past him I think it’s a bridge too far. It would take five 40 goal seasons to achieve that, taking him up to age 41. I guess a lot depends on where he chooses to play. If he spends a couple of years in the MLS then I can see him doing it- if he’s determined to milk every last drop from European football then probably not
Obviously it's a different team with different tactics and La Liga and the Premier League are also different so it wasn't exactly the same but his ability to dribble didn't change up to his knee injury. Madrid were just a lot more dominant offensively so he scored a lot more goals and got to be futher up the pitch more often.
United in Ronaldo's last season scored 68 league goals, Madrid at one point scored over 120 so it was quite a big difference.
For a couple of seasons, it seemed like Ronaldo came really close to bring that for Real Madrid in the CL. You'd watch them and ask how would Ronaldo get them out of this jam and most of the time, he did.
He's at 780ish career goals, not 800 yet unless you count youth teams goals.
If he gets to 900 soon enough he'll probably play until he gets 1000 because why not
He's a remarkable football player.
I'd say his mentality is unmatched in the sport. The goat for mentality.
I'd say his mentality is unmatched in the sport. The goat for mentality.
He lost the ball 3 times only in a 5 minutes spell the second half (2 failed dribbles and 1 failed pass), so those stats are obviously bollocks. He didn't have a good game.
Distraction, that's called. This is not a Mbappe thread.
I really dont think that Madrid side were more dominant attacking wise than the Utd side he left for many years after he left us tbh. Ronaldo took the physical game he perfected in England to a Spanish league that couldn't handle him so he went from running from deep v low blocks to using his physical gifts higher up v the FBs and CBS. He went from playing on the right and drifting in / starting as a CF in big games to playing on the left where it became easier for him to get a shot in on goal. Im not saying he couldn't dribble like he did for us but he did bulk up at Madrid and it was obvious for Utd fans who watched every minute of him for 5 years that his game had moved on. Ronaldo isn't scoring 70 goals in a year doing Zidane turns by the centre circle as he did for us.
Ah, ok. Wikipedia, that undeniable bastion of truth says 801 but I don’t know where they get their figures from.
Aside from the pens (which needed to be scored of course) he was fairly invisible. No influence on their game
I wouldn’t say he was quite invisible, he did win that first penalty f I example, but if you’re the furthest forward player in a match against a (probably) superior team then that is par for the course, however good a player you might be. It was always going to be a battle of the midfields, especially with both sides being relatively happy with a draw.
It's very interesting watching the vintage version of him play. He can't dribble much anymore and he doesn't do much from a standing start anymore due to having lost his explosiveness, so everything is done in flow and continuous movements, which is actually a really difficult thing to do.
In terms of perpetual movement, only Cavani is on his level when it comes to foraging for space in this manner. Ronaldo's game is so much about his wits and experience now, and of course, he is utterly dependent on the service he gets, but there's no more than a handful of players active who you expect to make basic, non-threatening positions lethal inside a few steps.
He's still worth his position in a team challenging for majors, which is really quite something at the age that he is. In terms of all-time greats, there's only Di Stefano who was performing with that kind of potency and importance over a run of games as opposed to one-offs by now.
As a pure forward, he's still world class; you just have to accept it's not the same player, or at least assess his game contextually, and not as 'Ronaldo' and he'd still be an extremely coveted player if his wage demands were in line with the going rate for the best strikers out there.
In terms of perpetual movement, only Cavani is on his level when it comes to foraging for space in this manner. Ronaldo's game is so much about his wits and experience now, and of course, he is utterly dependent on the service he gets, but there's no more than a handful of players active who you expect to make basic, non-threatening positions lethal inside a few steps.
He's still worth his position in a team challenging for majors, which is really quite something at the age that he is. In terms of all-time greats, there's only Di Stefano who was performing with that kind of potency and importance over a run of games as opposed to one-offs by now.
As a pure forward, he's still world class; you just have to accept it's not the same player, or at least assess his game contextually, and not as 'Ronaldo' and he'd still be an extremely coveted player if his wage demands were in line with the going rate for the best strikers out there.
That was down to Kounde being clumsy than anything else.
Not really. The degree to which Platini and Maradona carried those France and Argentina sides was on a completely different level from popping up with a big goal here and a big goal there, or being the attacking terminal of exceptional comprehensive attacking performances. Cristiano had games like that here and there, but never a whole tournament at that level
I wouldn’t count those goals scored in u-21 or whatever as “career goals”. He is currently on 783 goals though, don’t think he could get to 1000, but 850+ within the next 2 years or so is definitely a possibility. Afterall Pele only has 767, so it’s really impressive numbers and probably won’t be broken for long time, even if he retires by then.
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Let's see, he scored two goals, won a penalty, increased his lead on the top scorer table of the competition, sent Portugal through to the knockout stages and equaled the record for most international games of all time, at the ripe old age of 36.
What are people saying after all that? "Goals aside, he wasn't that good. Needs to work on his dribbling."
The guy never gets any credit.
What are people saying after all that? "Goals aside, he wasn't that good. Needs to work on his dribbling."
The guy never gets any credit.
That explain it. I think his first lengthy injury back in 2010, makes him trim down his dribbling abit , and turn him into a more completed and all action attacker (when he was entering his peak years). Knee injury in 2014 probably changed his game again from all action attacker to more of a poacher (when he approach his 30s)
I think the changes in football from the 80s to now make it pretty much impossible for that type of individually great tournament to ever happen again, especially with the number 10 position from that time being pretty much extinct.
Maybe if a great player plays on a stacked team it could happen but even then I doubt it. You can't individually dominate a football game consistently in modern football against similar level opposition if the opponents know what they're doing.
I think Ronaldo is impressive and one of the best players to ever play the game, but you gotta call it as it is.
Don't really care about the dribbling but bar the penalties he wasn't a real threat all game, but that was more down to tactics from both teams than him since he was playing from a deeper position to help Portugal pressure in the midfield.
It's more about what people choose to focus on. Even when Ronaldo is pivotal for his team and rewriting history people seem desperate to shit on him.
Nadal for me is slightly mentally tougher than Novak, but he had to deal with injuries. Federer is the most gifted.
I think Ronaldo has around 750 goals but even if he had 800 he wouldn't reach the 1000 mark.
If he retires now, 750 is still impressive af though. Especially if you consider that his total goals translate to this:
I’d say his amazing run during the knockout stage of CL in 16/17 is the closet thing to what you’ve described, at least in terms of his overall impact made in a tournament.
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His run in the 16/17 CL was ridiculous as well. He was quiet in the group stage and then in the KO got 2 hattricks and 2 braces vs Bayern (1 brace and 1 hattrick), Atletico (1 hattrick) and Juventus (1 brace).
That was probably the most impressive run I saw by any player ever. He was just stomping everyone
Goat. Stats and trophies tell the story.
Sorry I was meant to say 16/17
Yeh that’s exactly what I meant. Those teams are all considered as best team with best defence at that time, they just don’t concede goals easily yet he went on keep scoring hattrick and brace against them which knock them out, I don’t think I have ever seen anything like that before. Truly amazing.
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And who won that penalty?
Yeah, it's close. But it wasn't Maradona in '86. Maradona in '86 really is comparable to LeBron in the '16 finals, there's never been nor likely will ever be anything comparable in football
Agree its wasn't at Maradonna level of genius in '86. No one ever was. But I do think it was the closest yet in football since, in terms of individual impact made during a tournament.
Aren’t all penalties?
He’s more of an great athlete than a great footballer nowadays.
How many until he's top scorer of all time of the sport?
44 goals scored this season says otherwise. I would agree that he isn't as good as he once was because nowadays he is more a player of key moments than a player that gets involved in the game during the 90 minutes.
But that's kinda the issue in being a 36y old playing at this level. No matter how a freak you are, you just have to save the energy for those moments where you can decide.
22 I think. Bican has 805 and @SirAF posted that Ronaldo currently has 783.
But you gotta put in perspective that most of his goals were scored in a top 5 league, CL and NT. Not sure if friendlies count to the statistic
https://talksport.com/football/6910...ers-ever-josef-bican-pele-barcelona-juventus/
A below-par season by his standards is enough to beat the record.
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Club friendlies do not count.
To be fair Portugal played to not lose the game and he barely got the ball.
In terms of top level football, he is already top scorer of all time. Here's the list:
1. Ronaldo 783 goals
2. Pele 767 goals (or 769)
3. Romario 761 goals
4. Puskas 759 goals
5. Messi 745 goals
6. Bican 743 goals
7. Jimmy Jones 659 goals
8. Muller 640 goals
If also includes those official goals scored in regional league and youth/amateur/reserve games, Helmchen (982), Bican (948), Puskas (808) are still ahead of him. Here's the list:
1. Helmchen 982 goals
2. Bican 948 goals
3. Puskas 808 goals
4. Ronaldo 801 goals
5. Deak 794 goals
6. Romario 780 goals
7. Pele 775 goals
8. Messi 774 goals
If also include all goals scored in all unofficial games (club friendlies, unofficial amateur/reserve level football etc), obviously there were quite a few who scored well over 1000 goals, such as Tichy (1912), Bican (1812), Helmchen (1610), Puskas (1567), Muller (1483), Bene (1412), Deak (1369), Pele (1301) etc
But I don't really think those club friendlies or youth/amatuer/regional goals matters, as they are in very poor standard. To the extreme, Its just like scoring in your own backyard, or something.
So in short, it really depends on what criteria you are looking it. In terms of most relevant criteria, if we only count official goals scored in top level (excluding youth games, reserve games, amateur/regional level etc) Ronaldo is already the top scorer of all time.
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