Cristiano Ronaldo | Summer 2015

[Rado_N]

No, you're wrong.

We buy Ronaldo for 100,000,000.00
We sell shirts for 69.99
We sell 10,000,000.00 Ronaldo shirts.
That's 699,900,000.00
A proft of 599,900,000.00

And that's just Gross, not even including what we'd make from all the tax too! It just makes sense on every level.

Off topic, but could you expand on that? I always assumed someone like a Beckham would have a reasonable impact on his club's commercial income.

Nah, a club generally sells the number of shirts it sells, the addition of some superstar won't have much (if any) impact on that, it'll just be their name on the back instead of the prior season's flavour of the month.

The year Madrid signed Ronaldo (and Kaka the same summer) their entire commercial income stream increased by some tiny amount, most of which would be down to natural increases year on year.

Like you say it's off topic, and it's been discussed loads before, so I'm not gonna go find details, sorry.

 

[BarstoolProphet]

No, you're wrong.

We buy Ronaldo for 100,000,000.00
We sell shirts for 69.99
We sell 10,000,000.00 Ronaldo shirts.
That's 699,900,000.00
A proft of 599,900,000.00

And that's just Gross, not even including what we'd make from all the tax too! It just makes sense on every level.

(It's weird how much some people expect to make from shirt sales – not talking about you of course)

On a more serious note. Read a couple of reports where it says a club like Real Madrid or United would earn maybe €10-15 max per shirt sold, depending on the structure of the kit deals – which usually are undisclosed anyway. Could be a lazy interpretation of income numbers but could be right.

 

[Rado_N]

@PlayerOne see above - it's a total myth.

 

[RetroStu]

(It's weird how much some people expect to make from shirt sales – not talking about you of course)

On a more serious note. Read a couple of reports where it says a club like Real Madrid or United would earn maybe €10-15 max per shirt sold, depending on the structure of the kit deals – which usually are undisclosed anyway. Could be a lazy interpretation of income numbers but could be right.

To be fair, that would mean we would only have to sell about 5 million Ronaldo shirts to cover his probable fee, which is more than doable.

 

[kps88]

No, you're wrong.

We buy Ronaldo for 100,000,000.00
We sell shirts for 69.99
We sell 10,000,000.00 Ronaldo shirts.
That's 699,900,000.00
A proft of 599,900,000.00

And that's just Gross, not even including what we'd make from all the tax too! It just makes sense on every level.

 

[Speak]

A few more, really? Ronaldo is a huge name, he has so many fans. He has a huge social media following. Listen to our fans sing his name almost every week. Marketing wise, Ronaldo would be a huge coup. Shirt sales wise, Ronaldo will blow almost every player away with shirt sale if he joins you.

Surely there are only so many extra shirts you can sell?
You'll get some who genuinely buy a shirt (who never do/did otherwise) just because it's Ronaldo, but that's not going to be that many.
Most will just buy the same shirt they would have bought anyway, and get Ronaldo instead of Di Maria. They wont buy two shirts instead of one.

 

[Nate Dogg]

He's kind old now (31) and will be too expensive, anyhow we have Young so why would need him?

 

[PlayerOne]

@PlayerOne see above - it's a total myth.

Cina's post? I'm not an idiot, I realise he won't get that much money from him, but it's silly to say he won't be a huge marketing wise. That's what I'm disagreeing with.

 

[BarstoolProphet]

To be fair, that would mean we would only have to sell about 5 million Ronaldo shirts to cover his probable fee, which is more than doable.

Have you taken into account factors like 'No. of people who would still buy a shirt regardless of [insert player] being bought' and such? Also that estimate doesn't include in-house costs for United.

 

[Nighteyes]

No, thanks.

He'll do well to score 25+ given we create shit. And he does nothing else besides goal hanging.

 

[Skills]

Our kit deal with Adidas is 750m minimum over 10 years. The maximum is probably + Ronaldo. It's on.

 

[Rado_N]

Cina's post? I'm not an idiot, I realise he won't get that much money from him, but it's silly to say he won't be a huge marketing wise. That's what I'm disagreeing with.

No, mine!

 

[RetroStu]

Have you taken into account factors like 'No. of people who would still buy a shirt regardless of [insert player] being bought' and such? Also that estimate doesn't include in-house costs for United.

Well i'd pay £60mil for him even if he sold zero shirts. He's the best in the world at the moment imo and even when he does start declining, he will still be better than most strikers.
He's a goal scoring machine.

 

[Shark]

You really need me to join the dots for you? Fecking hell. Google their dates of birth and do the math.

Obviously, every player is different but there's lots of talk about Ronaldo being not quite as effective as before from people who watch a lot of Spanish football (I don't) so its definitely conceivable his best days are behind him. He's so dependent on physical attributes that he's the type of player who might struggle to reinvent his game if/when he loses a yard of pace. I actually though Van Persie would cope better than most.

Unlike Ronaldo, RVP has been injury ridden throughout his entire career which takes its toll later on and was never anywhere close to Ronaldo's level to begin with. There's no math to do on this comparison.

 

[cyberman]

Signing him would guarentee us the next 2/3 league titles and give us a great change in Europe. if it's in any way possible it's a no brainer.
Get him and Pogba.. Basically resigning two players for over 150m that originally cost us around 18!

 

[united_99]

I think the shirt selling do increase, ppl might already have a shirt but still would like a Ronaldo shirt (especially kids/teens). Plus I know kids who wear Ronaldo Messi shirts despite being fans of other teams (too).
However I'd rather a new and young "star" player than Ronaldo. Just wait until M7 scores his first couple of goals for us and his shirt sales will hit the roof as well in no time.
We are hardly going to renegotiate our mega Adidas or Chevrolet deal anyway in the near future, so I don't see much incentive in that regard for buying Ronaldo.

 

[Raees]

I was thinking this as well. I don't remember him being this much of a kn*b when he was at United - has he changed? Or were we just blind to it when he was here? I remember a lot of opposition fans hating him, so maybe

It was only in 2008/09 post the CL win he became a knob. Before then he was annoying for opposition fans but a great player to have in the side, hard working, a beast of a player and yes he had his moments of histrionics and diva behaviour but it was manageable and he was very much a team player.

Once he discovered how good he really was though post that season, became an insufferable bell end.. I remember watching him live in 08/09 and he was a twat during games, moaning whining with his head in Madrid. Since he moved there, his ego has become insufferable but this season it really has taken the biscuit... he has actively destroyed team spirit in that Madrid side with his lack of celebrations for team mates and just being a cnut in general.

I disagree with Pogue, I think he can still produce the goods albeit at a slower rate.. his thirst for goals and his reading of the game in an attacking sense will not desert him, as a CF he'd still be a great addition to any team looking to win the CL. MLS - for a guy who is still the second best player in the world? no chance, not for a guy of his quality.

He'll move to a rich big money club post Real and still win things but I feel the type of club we are, we do not suit a Ronaldo in his current temperament. He needs a crass club which indulges his personality, we do not suit players who are not team players.. and LVG is very imcompatible with that sort of personality. It would be a recipe for disaster and there would be a huge fall out especially if Ronaldo does decline in terms of performances in a couple of seasons.

 

[Striker10]

He's still sharper then most and we know LVG is wanting a 20 goal a season man. Well, he's get 2 and 1/2 of those with Ronaldo. I think part of the problem with Ronaldo is that he's on such a run, that it can't be that much fun anymore. He should come back to United and race Rooney to see who breaks Charltons record first.

 

[DWelbz19]

No, thanks.

He'll do well to score 25+ given we create shit. And he does nothing else besides goal hanging.

But he's Ronaldo! Teams will fear us! He'll save everything!

 

[Señor]

Get Adidas to foot the bill.

 

[RetroStu]

Only on the Caf would fans be against signing arguably the best player in the world.

 

[PlayerOne]

No, mine!

Oh sorry. I don't see a huge rise in profits straight away, I mean we don't even get money from shirt sales, unless they're sold at the megastore. I do think United are much better at exploiting the market than Madrid are.

Anyway, I don't see this transfer happening.

 

[Striker10]

Ings or Ronaldo?

 

[SirAF]

Oh sorry. I don't see a huge rise in profits straight away, I mean we don't even get money from shirt sales, unless they're sold at the megastore. I do think United are much better at exploiting the market than Madrid are.

Anyway, I don't see this transfer happening.

When you say "we" do you mean Real? I'm always confused unless people state in their profile that they support another team!

 

[Raoul]

It was only in 2008/09 post the CL win he became a knob. Before then he was annoying for opposition fans but a great player to have in the side, hard working, a beast of a player and yes he had his moments of histrionics and diva behaviour but it was manageable and he was very much a team player.

Once he discovered how good he really was though post that season, became an insufferable bell end.. I remember watching him live in 08/09 and he was a twat during games, moaning whining with his head in Madrid. Since he moved there, his ego has become insufferable but this season it really has taken the biscuit... he has actively destroyed team spirit in that Madrid side with his lack of celebrations for team mates and just being a cnut in general.

I disagree with Pogue, I think he can still produce the goods albeit at a slower rate.. his thirst for goals and his reading of the game in an attacking sense will not desert him, as a CF he'd still be a great addition to any team looking to win the CL. MLS - for a guy who is still the second best player in the world? no chance, not for a guy of his quality.

He'll move to a rich big money club post Real and still win things but I feel the type of club we are, we do not suit a Ronaldo in his current temperament. He needs a crass club which indulges his personality, we do not suit players who are not team players.. and LVG is very imcompatible with that sort of personality. It would be a recipe for disaster and there would be a huge fall out especially if Ronaldo does decline in terms of performances in a couple of seasons.

This is not even in question. His numbers over the past five years have been quite consistent, averaging nearly 55 goals a year. Even if he gets 30 in the Prem, it would be far better than any player we currently have is capable of. Between him and Depay, our attack would be scintillating.

 

[PlayerOne]

When you say "we" do you mean Real? I'm always confused unless people state in their profile that they support another team!

I meant Manchester United. Apologies for not being clear.

 

[SirAF]

I meant Manchester United. Apologies for not being clear.

Ah, right. No worries.

With the new adidas deal United will sell their own merchandise though and get the profits unlike with the Nike deal.

 

[Raees]

This is not even in question. His numbers over the past five years have been quite consistent, averaging nearly 55 goals a year. Even if he gets 30 in the Prem, it would be far better than any player we currently have is capable of. Between him and Depay, our attack would be scintillating.

I agree, but for me I actually dislike watching him.. he annoys me on a personal level. In terms of his output, he can't be questioned - he will deliver the next three years, easily.

 

[Nozzy]

..... and us changing our playing style ...

We have a style?

 

[PlayerOne]

Ah, right. No worries.

With the new adidas deal United will sell their own merchandise though and get the profits unlike with the Nike deal.

I don't really remember the details, so that's new to me. I do remember reading that United get to keep the profits from merchandise sold at the megastore.

 

[Raoul]

I agree, but for me I actually dislike watching him.. he annoys me on a personal level. In terms of his output, he can't be questioned - he will deliver the next three years, easily.

Yes, I gather that this is the case for the vocal minority who don't want him back. Its not about football, but more of a nagging annoyance of the circus and his muppet faboys, not so much the player himself.

 

[SirAF]

I don't really remember the details, so that's new to me. I do remember reading that United get to keep the profits from merchandise sold at the megastore.

I definitely think so, have to look it up though.

 

[paulscholes18]

So they having Payback then 2 weeks after Elimination Chamber and 2 weeks after that Money in the back.
That to many to soon for me

 

[Randall Flagg]

Wouldnt want him anywhere near the club

 

[Physiocrat]

If he goes I reckon PSG are a more likely destination or potentially City.

On another note I'm not sure if he'd perform to his Real heights in a high possession side. He's at his best on the counter.

 

[Raoul]

If he goes I reckon PSG are a more likely destination or potentially City.

On another note I'm not sure if he'd perform to his Real heights in a high possession side. He's at his best on the counter.

I doubt either of them could afford him with FFP.

 

[Raees]

Yes, I gather that this is the case for the vocal minority who don't want him back. Its not about football, but more of a nagging annoyance of the circus and his muppet faboys, not so much the player himself.

Also the fact that he is the type of player who could hold back the development of others. I want to see us be a great 'Team' not just at the servitude of Ronaldo.. he could get us a title or two, no doubt but I genuinely think we would lose something by signing him as intangible as that sounds. He restricts the players around him and as he is getting older, the more people have to play for him.

The fact we are a possession side, again I do not think that will bring out the best out of him either. PSG, City.. I agree, these are the teams I see him at going forwards.

 

[Raoul]

Also the fact that he is the type of player who could hold back the development of others. I want to see us be a great 'Team' not just at the servitude of Ronaldo.. he could get us a title or two, no doubt but I genuinely think we would lose something by signing him as intangible as that sounds. He restricts the players around him and as he is getting older, the more people have to play for him.

The fact we are a possession side, again I do not think that will bring out the best out of him either. PSG, City.. I agree, these are the teams I see him at going forwards.

I can't recall him restricting anyone during his last stint with us. The overarching point here is i seriously doubt the likes of LvG, Woody, Fergie etc would think twice if he was available. At the end of the day its all about success and trophies and any side with Ronaldo is obviously positioned far better to achieve both than a side without him.

 

[littlepeasoup]

Could genuinely see Ronaldo playing until his late thirties at the top level like a Giggs, or Inzaghi if he's managed properly. The problem is, for a player who will probably want to play every single game, when does that become unsustainable?

That being said, I'm sure he'd give us at least 3 quality years. It'll be silly money though.

 

[Raoul]

Could genuinely see Ronaldo playing until his late thirties at the top level like a Giggs, or Inzaghi if he's managed properly. The problem is, for a player who will probably want to play every single game, when does that become unsustainable?

That being said, I'm sure he'd give us at least 3 quality years. It'll be silly money though.

Agree with this. He seems freakish enough to continue playing at a world class level for a few more years, and in an influential Giggs type role for a few years after that. Pretty sure he'll wind up in MLS at some point later in his career.