At his peak he'd thrive under any manager. Seems to be losing his edge, though, and I suspect his decline will be rapid. My main objection is outlined in my first post, rather than concerns about him as a footballer though. We'd be letting Madrid take the piss out of us. With De Gea going the opposite direction in the near future, taking Ronaldo off their hands for a huge fee would be adding insult to injury.
Cristiano Ronaldo | Summer 2015
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At his peak he'd thrive under any manager. Seems to be losing his edge, though, and I suspect his decline will be rapid. My main objection is outlined in my first post, rather than concerns about him as a footballer though. We'd be letting Madrid take the piss out of us. With De Gea going the opposite direction in the near future, taking Ronaldo off their hands for a huge fee would be adding insult to injury.
I reckon he'll still be at his peak, or close to it, for another three or so years. He's an absolute beast.
Agreed. Only scored 54 goals this season. Below average.
Isco is a fantastic player but I can't help but feel he wouldn't flourish here at all with our style and formation.
I'm with Pogue-y on this one.
Ronnie has gone, and it's sad to see some of you fans pine after him. It's been 6 years...you'd think that's enough time to move on.
Tbh, the system we play now wouldn't even get the best out of him. A player like Benzema could thrive with LvG, Ronnie wouldn't. And I wouldn't want to see the whole team geared around getting Ronnie his goals, (even thought I don't think LvG would pander to that).
He was a great player for us, and spearheaded our last great cycle, but having him back would be more sentimental than practical.
Ronnie has gone, and it's sad to see some of you fans pine after him. It's been 6 years...you'd think that's enough time to move on.
Tbh, the system we play now wouldn't even get the best out of him. A player like Benzema could thrive with LvG, Ronnie wouldn't. And I wouldn't want to see the whole team geared around getting Ronnie his goals, (even thought I don't think LvG would pander to that).
He was a great player for us, and spearheaded our last great cycle, but having him back would be more sentimental than practical.
Van Persie was the PL top scorer in 2012/13 (ahead of Suarez and Bale in 2nd and 3rd place). He's been a roaring success since then, right?
that ship has sailed. Suspect he will end up in MLS, being the biggest superstar they have. His ego (and bank account) would thrive
While I'm not overly keen to have him back here, I reckon the club will get most of the money back from marketing his name.
I would shocked to see him go there, he's still young.
He'll score 50+ goals with ease next season.
For Madrid.
For Madrid.
Absolultely not, madness.
Please, no, not this myth again.
Obviously a no brainier, especially with Fergie pulling a few strings behind the scenes. He's the sort of player who will remain world class for a few more years and with his freakish fitness will probably stay influential until his mid to late 30s
What has RVP's decline got to do with Ronaldo?
And who would create those 30+ goals for him? With all due respect to our players and LvG, we don't create anything close to the amount of chances RM do. A quality midfielder, CB, RB + Memphis/whatever strikers we'll have next season would give us a better opportunity to win the league than Ronaldo.
I have no doubt Ronaldo will be still great in the PL for us, but at the same time he'll get extremely frustrated by our lack of chances created for him in certain games and instead of helping the team he'll rather throw his arms into the air.
Then I thought we were among the biggest clubs in the world? Such a club doesn't spend huge money on a 30 year old player who couldn't wait to leave us once he became world class.
Obvioulsy yes, but depends on the fee, really. So considering Madrid would probably want at the minumum 65m quid+....no thanks. Too old to essentially give them the amount back they paid for a peak Ronaldo.
He'll still be at Madrid next season and will probably head off to the MLS or Qatar somewhere in the summer of 2016.
He'll still be at Madrid next season and will probably head off to the MLS or Qatar somewhere in the summer of 2016.
I don't think he will be at his top till 34 yrs old
I'm assuming it's in reference to how "quick" physical decline can set in.
Till 06/2017 at Madrid and then after to La Galaxy
You really need me to join the dots for you? Fecking hell. Google their dates of birth and do the math.
Obviously, every player is different but there's lots of talk about Ronaldo being not quite as effective as before from people who watch a lot of Spanish football (I don't) so its definitely conceivable his best days are behind him. He's so dependent on physical attributes that he's the type of player who might struggle to reinvent his game if/when he loses a yard of pace. I actually though Van Persie would cope better than most.
I'm not saying we will recoup the fee, but he will help us land bigger sponsorship deals. Ronaldo is still a huge name.
Aye, is his contract until 2017? Depending on how he performs next season, yeah, he'll either be off 2016 or latest, 2017.
We landed the biggest Adidas deal in the world and a mega Chevrolet deal among others without Ronaldo. We don't need him for marketing purpose either anymore.
Just because they have the same age, it has no bearing on how much it will affect their performances.
Why not google Ryan Giggs?
2018
He's not bigger name than Manchester United and we already break record sponsorship deals quite comfortably.
The potential impact of any single player on a clubs commercial income is grossly overstated. We might sell a few more shirts abroad or something, that's it.
Thanks mate!
Why not read my whole post? Particularly the bit about reinventing his game. Something Ryan Giggs did superbly.
I wouldn't refuse if we did buy him but we'd be spending more than what we paid for Di Maria to get a 31 year Ronaldo. Personally, in my opinion, that money would be best spent elsewhere.
Pogue, honestly, he'd bang them in here as before, he's in amazing shape which isn't going to stop and he's only 30. RVP won us the league one year, Ronnie would destroy it.
I was thinking this as well. I don't remember him being this much of a kn*b when he was at United - has he changed? Or were we just blind to it when he was here? I remember a lot of opposition fans hating him, so maybe
No, you're wrong.
We buy Ronaldo for 100,000,000.00
We sell shirts for 69.99
We sell 10,000,000.00 Ronaldo shirts.
That's 699,900,000.00
A proft of 599,900,000.00
And that's just Gross, not even including what we'd make from all the tax too! It just makes sense on every level.
Cristiano isn't going to slide into oblivion anytime soon. 50+ goals for the current season (his third most productive season at Real Madrid, just short of the second placed 55 goal mark in 2012/ 2013) doesn't half suggest the onset of decline. He has rather cleverly learned to optimize his playing style to reduce wear and tear, and there's very little wasted movement with him these days. Add that to his crazy determination levels, plug him at #9 to further reduce the workload, and he could play at a very high level (30+ goals per season) for another 5+ years. He's almost 1 year younger than Ibrahimovic when he moved to Paris Saint-Germain, and the Swede has been exceptional value for money. Ronaldo has the drive and quality to go above and beyond that.
As for the transfer fee, Ronaldo is one of the the biggest individual sporting brands in the world, and arguably the most marketable footballer around. His return would be met with immense fanfare. Combine that with Manchester United's massive global support base, and Woody's commercial expertise - and we'd recoup his fee even before his contract is up. Even if there's a minuscule change of him leaving Madrid, we should definitely explore all possibilities.
Not sure he will be a negative presence in the locker room either. Real Madrid's circus atmosphere brings out the worst in people. Yes he can be petulant but a lot of Ronaldo's actions are indirectly derived from the intense scrutiny and fan abuse every one of their player has to face week in and week out. United provides a more welcoming atmosphere with Fergie sitting in the stands and the likes of Giggs in the dugout, who both knew Ronaldo when he was a relative nobody. United lack a consistent clinical threat in the team and he is more than capable of filling that void for the medium term. Plus he can be a training pitch mentor for the likes of Memphis and Januzaj. Not sure if he will leave though, there's still some unfinished business at Real Madrid.
As for the transfer fee, Ronaldo is one of the the biggest individual sporting brands in the world, and arguably the most marketable footballer around. His return would be met with immense fanfare. Combine that with Manchester United's massive global support base, and Woody's commercial expertise - and we'd recoup his fee even before his contract is up. Even if there's a minuscule change of him leaving Madrid, we should definitely explore all possibilities.
Not sure he will be a negative presence in the locker room either. Real Madrid's circus atmosphere brings out the worst in people. Yes he can be petulant but a lot of Ronaldo's actions are indirectly derived from the intense scrutiny and fan abuse every one of their player has to face week in and week out. United provides a more welcoming atmosphere with Fergie sitting in the stands and the likes of Giggs in the dugout, who both knew Ronaldo when he was a relative nobody. United lack a consistent clinical threat in the team and he is more than capable of filling that void for the medium term. Plus he can be a training pitch mentor for the likes of Memphis and Januzaj. Not sure if he will leave though, there's still some unfinished business at Real Madrid.
Teams would immediately fear us again, we wouldn't have to worry about where the goals are coming from and we'd have the best attack in the league by absolute miles. If he's available the one thing you can be sure of is that MUFC would try and buy him. He's in the middle of his peak and he'll remain a force for years.
In fact with him we could save money on wages, probably, by shipping off RVP/Falcao... maybe even Rooney. It's Ronaldo for fecks sake.
In fact with him we could save money on wages, probably, by shipping off RVP/Falcao... maybe even Rooney. It's Ronaldo for fecks sake.
Off topic, but could you expand on that? I always assumed someone like a Beckham would have a reasonable impact on his club's commercial income.
Ronaldo is such a powerful guy and such a good goal scorer that he will probably be banging in 20 goals a season when he's 35.
We would be stupid to not be all over this if there is any chance of it happening.
We would be stupid to not be all over this if there is any chance of it happening.
Depending on the fee, yes. Not likely to happen though.
It's a wanking material , and just like any wank, why settle for average, let's go for the top!
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Ronaldo is huge name, he will help.
A few more, really? Ronaldo is a huge name, he has so many fans. He has a huge social media following. Listen to our fans sing his name almost every week. Marketing wise, Ronaldo would be a huge coup. Shirt sales wise, Ronaldo will blow almost every player away with shirt sale if he joins you.
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