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Cristiano Ronaldo | Summer 2015
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People voting no 
Can't see the logic of no voters. Unbelievable player who will play til he's 40. There's no point using other players careers as a guide to when he will start to slow down because he's just not like other players.
So in 10 years time when he has another 250+ goals to his name and he finally calls it a day, can you honestly say you'll not be disappointed he didn't spend those last years lighting up Old Trafford?
So in 10 years time when he has another 250+ goals to his name and he finally calls it a day, can you honestly say you'll not be disappointed he didn't spend those last years lighting up Old Trafford?
I'd like to hear some solid reasons why the "no" voters don't want him back here, apart from finances.
Wish you could see who voted 'no'.
I didn't vote no but the other likely reason is his massive ego which has grown to epic proportions since he left United.
Oh no, how am I ever going to maintain a fair and meaningful friendship with him?
Age?
Age to price ratio is definitely a legitimate reason to vote no.
Perhaps but for all the goals he would bring , not to mention how much having someone of his profile would mean to MUFC commercially , in my opinion he would be worth it.
For the record I think his arrogance is not endearing but he would bring a lot to the team from all angles.
Squad building reasons too.
Buying Ronaldo is like having a trump card. We can leave things as they are as his goals and drive will win trophies. We'd be instant contenders on all fronts with him.
I get that "what happens to player x if we buy player y" can be overstated. I get that it's Cristiano Ronaldo. But we have invested too much in our attacking positions that I'd rather work with what we have bought already (Mata, Di Maria, Depay) and even young players for the new generation which includes Januzaj.
The perfect time to buy Ronaldo was 2013 when we won the 20th title. That squad had a mix of young and senior players. Not many in between. RvP, and perhaps Rooney were the only "top" players. Carrick had a great season. Defence got better in the second half of the season. There was still a lot of room for improvement though and that squad was more or less the same for 2 or 3 seasons on the bounce.
There's still room for improvement in this squad but we've improved since then personnel wise. Our competitors have improved a lot too. I like the potential in this squad, and would rather bring in new players who can be a part of the new Manchester United for years to come and create a new dynasty. Ronaldo would be fun but he's the past. LvG has identified his vision. Ronaldo doesn't fit into it realistically and bringing him in will cause a disturbance further down the line when we have to replace him again. We didn't do it the way we should have in 2009. We have star quality now. Lets move on.
Buying Ronaldo is like having a trump card. We can leave things as they are as his goals and drive will win trophies. We'd be instant contenders on all fronts with him.
I get that "what happens to player x if we buy player y" can be overstated. I get that it's Cristiano Ronaldo. But we have invested too much in our attacking positions that I'd rather work with what we have bought already (Mata, Di Maria, Depay) and even young players for the new generation which includes Januzaj.
The perfect time to buy Ronaldo was 2013 when we won the 20th title. That squad had a mix of young and senior players. Not many in between. RvP, and perhaps Rooney were the only "top" players. Carrick had a great season. Defence got better in the second half of the season. There was still a lot of room for improvement though and that squad was more or less the same for 2 or 3 seasons on the bounce.
There's still room for improvement in this squad but we've improved since then personnel wise. Our competitors have improved a lot too. I like the potential in this squad, and would rather bring in new players who can be a part of the new Manchester United for years to come and create a new dynasty. Ronaldo would be fun but he's the past. LvG has identified his vision. Ronaldo doesn't fit into it realistically and bringing him in will cause a disturbance further down the line when we have to replace him again. We didn't do it the way we should have in 2009. We have star quality now. Lets move on.
Agreed on the goals. That alone would make us instant contenders for every trophy, which would recoup whatever we pay for him.
I can't even imagine how much he'd cost. Easily in excess of £100m. I'd love him back though.
Age isn't that important with a player like Ronaldo. Players like Van Persie go to shit when they hit 31/32 because they lose that yard of pace and sharpness. Ronaldo is such a complete player that even if he was slow and weaker he'd score goals and assist, consistently.
Age isn't that important with a player like Ronaldo. Players like Van Persie go to shit when they hit 31/32 because they lose that yard of pace and sharpness. Ronaldo is such a complete player that even if he was slow and weaker he'd score goals and assist, consistently.
How do people not see the no side? They pay him 550k+ a week at madrid and he'll be 30 when he came (for 100m).
Imagine when he's 35 and the risk is that he's not playing that well at 35, and he is taking up 1/6th of our wage bill. Imagine telling the glazers this summer that the wage bill has increased by 20%, we have spent 125m and we want to spend more.
We don't have unlimited cash like our two direct rivals. We won't spend as much as them in the next ten years and so we need to be smarter with it.
That's my opinion.
Reasons other than finances, there are none, but finances are important. In the 10 years before Moyes city and chelsea vastly outspent us and look at the difference in the quality of the squads
Imagine when he's 35 and the risk is that he's not playing that well at 35, and he is taking up 1/6th of our wage bill. Imagine telling the glazers this summer that the wage bill has increased by 20%, we have spent 125m and we want to spend more.
We don't have unlimited cash like our two direct rivals. We won't spend as much as them in the next ten years and so we need to be smarter with it.
That's my opinion.
Reasons other than finances, there are none, but finances are important. In the 10 years before Moyes city and chelsea vastly outspent us and look at the difference in the quality of the squads
He looks after himself very well and is one of the fittest athletes the world has ever seen. A rare physical specimen. I can see him playing at a very high level for another 4-5 years as a striker.
61 goals in a season.
313 goals in 300 games.
If we had him for 1 year at that rate he's scored almost 3x our strikers output in one season.
313 goals in 300 games.
If we had him for 1 year at that rate he's scored almost 3x our strikers output in one season.
We have too many issues in our squad so we shouldnt splash the cash on him. Plus, with his ego and age, it might make things too complicated, you never know
How much are you guys willing to pay? I would say he can sustain another 3-4 years of football at top form. But it's not realistic to expect him to score same 60-odd goals for United as he did for Real. Real midfield could create a ton of chances for him, that's not the case here.
My point being United also has other areas to look into. CR won't be able to solve everything by himself. And mind that he gets pissed off he doesn't receive proper service. So much do you think can you spend if he gives you like 30 goals in league?
My point being United also has other areas to look into. CR won't be able to solve everything by himself. And mind that he gets pissed off he doesn't receive proper service. So much do you think can you spend if he gives you like 30 goals in league?
The move doesn't make any sense for him whatsoever. He's in one of the very best attacks in the world. Why come to a team that's still figuring itself out?
He'd probably get around the 30 mark in league goals for us, which would make us contenders. Not to mention one or 2 others thriving having a player like him in the side &'creating more space for others (AdM, Mata, Rooney to name a few). He'd end up 40-45 goals in all comps, but yeah, he's definitely not going to find it as easy in our current team. Even that "10.29" chances created stat surprises me a bit. I'd have sworn it would be much less.
I'm guessing there's no differentiation between "okay chance, got a header/shot away" and "great chance, he should bury that".
Madrid are a miles more creative than us, that much is clear. The way they pass it around is fantastic, always look like creating chances. In that sense i.e creativity from midfield I think they're the best around.
Yeah, even then, there's been a ton of matches where i struggle to recall 2-3 chances, let alone 10+
I suppose even a shot from distance would count in those stats? Agree about Madrid. They were fantastic to watch, especially in the first half of the season. Their strikers are in fecking dreamland with that service
Great strikers too, to be fair.Yeah, even then, there's been a ton of matches where i struggle to recall 2-3 chances, let alone 10+
Agree about Madrid. They were fantastic to watch, especially in the first half of the season. Their strikers are in fecking dreamland with that service
Id say ego, more money and the ability to be unquestionably the "main man". He knows if he comes back here he will be literally worshipped....the Madrid fans boo him when he doesn't score for 3 games. They would drive even the best players out of that club.
So he could figure it out.
The same ego surely wouldn't allow him to leave before breaking the goal-scoring record.
Perhaps, but being booed by your own fans after performing like he does can take a toll.
Madrid fans are the definition of spoilt and ungrateful.
You're talking about 5 years away. We'll have won 5 league titles in a row and not give a shit...
He wouldn't want to risk it.
Especially when Barcelona have just won a treble, and have potential to keep that level going. His worst nightmare would probably be removing himself from a position to directly compete with Barcelona and Messi.
They don't boo him anymore. They whistle and he knows the spirit it's meant in even if it's weird for us.
You could make a case for them not accepting him a few years back but he has a great relationship with try Madrid fans now.
And he is unquestionably the "main man" there. Have you watched them this season? He's scored 60 goals, of course he's the número uno there.
The idea that he wants to be even more important is silly IMO. He's got everything at Madrid. The only difference here would be that he'd have a lesser team around him. It wouldn't suit him nearly as much. He's got a good thing going at Madrid.
And Madrid despite the trophies are a fanstastic team. Their midfield is wonderful. Why would he want to move to a weaker team and a weaker midfield behind him?
Anything is possible in football and some other reasons could obviously crop up, but on face value it zero sense for him as career move.
I agree, as a career move it makes more sense for him to stay in Madrid...but with Woodie ready to splash the cash and Mendes around one never really knows.
I voted no here. Lay it on me bro
Seriously, there're legitimate reasons not to sign him. Wage, age, massive ego, opportunity cost., if we're all in for him with the cost of not improving other key area then that'll be a stupid as feck signing. Let's face it, our strikers weren't great last season but midfielders & wingers & back four didn't really help much either.
Ronaldo is a top notch footballer, not doubt about that but it's deatable whenever he could push us to the next level or two. Look at Portugal, he barely carry his nation team, would United be different? No one can tell
The poll is 60-40, stop saying like we, no-ers are retards.
Even with these factors it's extremely wishful thinking. Ronaldo leaving the summer before breaking the goal-scoring record, and a year after Barcelona win the treble? It wouldn't be very Ronaldo-like.
I must be one of the very few that thinks he's going to fall right off a cliff performance wise at some point soon.
I swear he's already getting slower and it's coinciding with him moving to the centre a lot more. I think he'll genuinely lose a tonne of pace and for someone so heavily reliant on it to get in the positions he does I don't see him scoring anything like as many.
Hell I wouldn't be surprised if it happens next season, would be sods law after his highest scoring season ever.
I can't imagine his knee issues are going to help either longevity wise.
I swear he's already getting slower and it's coinciding with him moving to the centre a lot more. I think he'll genuinely lose a tonne of pace and for someone so heavily reliant on it to get in the positions he does I don't see him scoring anything like as many.
Hell I wouldn't be surprised if it happens next season, would be sods law after his highest scoring season ever.
I can't imagine his knee issues are going to help either longevity wise.
He'll bring goals.
He'll bring excitement.
He'll cost a lot of money.
He'll make the club a lot of money.
He's got a good 4 years at least in him.
He'll bring a big ego.
He'll bring huge experience.
He WILL perform.
Honestly the pros of getting ronaldo massively outweigh the cons. I can see why people are slightly skeptical, but given the chance he was available, ANY club should be jumping for that chance.
He'll bring excitement.
He'll cost a lot of money.
He'll make the club a lot of money.
He's got a good 4 years at least in him.
He'll bring a big ego.
He'll bring huge experience.
He WILL perform.
Honestly the pros of getting ronaldo massively outweigh the cons. I can see why people are slightly skeptical, but given the chance he was available, ANY club should be jumping for that chance.
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