Another newbie straight from YouTube comment section. Sigh.Is this what you got from that with your binary brain?
You should just go back to hyping up Saudi League and his crazy stats against Andorra, Faroe, Lichtenstein etc calling him the greatest NT goal scorer ever with 3 goals in 19 knock-out games in 5 WCs + 5 Euros, 0 POTT award..
Cristiano Ronaldo - Much Ado About Al Nassr
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He's back....right?!
Only two goals this evening? The man is finished.
No way the Ronaldo we've seen in the past three years or so is a starter for Madrid. One of the best things Madrid did was letting him go in 2018, because Ronaldo 18-23 has been nowhere near as good as Benzema over that period. Different levels really. There would probably be no Vinicius either if he had stayed.
We also have absolutely no idea how many trophies Real would have won with a lesser version of Ronaldo offering next to nothing except goals. It was best for both parties to end their relationship at that moment. Real kept on winning and developing young players and Ronaldo ended his career over there on a high note and not in disgrace like at United.
No striker succeeds at United post-Ferguson.
9 goals in 7 games for Portugal this year, and being most decisive player for Portugal to qualify for Euro.
First player to reach 40 goals in 2023.
And all at the age of 38. Probably the best 38 year old player ever.
First player to reach 40 goals in 2023.
And all at the age of 38. Probably the best 38 year old player ever.
Might as well score another 3 against the mighty Liechtenstein
I hope Ronaldo achieves the 1000 goals tally as I think it's what his professional career deserves.
IMHO Zlatan Ibrahimovic's level was more impressive when he re-joined AC Milan at 38. But then he always had better ball control, CF intelligence (and arguably technique) than Ronaldo which translates better as your physical attributes desert you, especially if you play as a CF. What elevated Ronnie's dribbling was mostly his pace, agility and balance for his size.
IMHO Zlatan Ibrahimovic's level was more impressive when he re-joined AC Milan at 38. But then he always had better ball control, CF intelligence (and arguably technique) than Ronaldo which translates better as your physical attributes desert you, especially if you play as a CF. What elevated Ronnie's dribbling was mostly his pace, agility and balance for his size.
Kudos to Ronaldo at 38 for conquering European football with his amazing tap-in skills against powerhouses like Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Bosnia and Slovakia, the whole world was already in awe after his conquest of supersonic Saudi league, and now this. Give him the Ballon D'or..
Such a pity that he missed the game against Luxembourg that Portugal struggled to only win 9-0 breaking their all-time record without him. He was sorely missed.
With the way he is going, I am confident he will finally score his first tap-in a WC knock-out in 2026 at 42 and complete football as the best 42 year old player ever. The world owes him a WC knock-out tap-in
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I mean that applies to everyone else isn’t it? Like Mbappe vs Gibraltar, Kane vs Malta, Haaland vs Cyprus, Lukaku vs Estonia or even Hojlund vs San Marino. They all have their moment vs mighty opponents.
People recognize Mbappe for dominating big opponents in the games that actually matter.
And except for Lukaku's PR team who compared his Belgium record with that of Henry's, nobody hypes up the players you mentioned unlike Ronaldo fans.
Nah not saying he is better than Mbappe as of today, that’s just not possible due to obvious age difference. Just highlighting the fact he is still scoring and doing his job at 38 years of old age, which should earn more admiration rather than non stop bashing out of hatred.
Okay, can agree with that.
Kudos to Ronaldo at 38 for conquering European football with his amazing tap-in skills against powerhouses like Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Bosnia and Slovakia, the whole world was already in awe after his conquest of supersonic Saudi league, and now this. Give him the Ballon D'or..
Such a pity that he missed the game against Luxembourg that Portugal struggled to only win 9-0 breaking their all-time record without him. He was sorely missed.
With the way he is going, I am confident he will finally score his first tap-in a WC knock-out in 2026 at 42 and complete football as the best 42 year old player. The world owes him a WC knock-out tap-in
Yes. It's so easy any striker like Harry Kane can do it... Oh... Wait...
Lukaku the great, Kane, Haaland are already doing it... and better than Ronaldo..
They have better per game goal ratio than Ronaldo..
Not only that, Kane shows up way more often than Ronaldo in games that matter..
Kane's stats against WC winning nations: 8 goals in 14 games
Ronaldo's stats against WC winning nations: 7 goals in 35 games
Kane in in WC/EC knock-out stats: 7 goals in 11 games
Ronaldo in EC/WC knock-outs: 3 goals in 19 games (including 0 goals in WC knock-outs)
The difference is nobody hypes up Kane's or Lukaku's stats desparately.. calling them the greatest NT goalscorer and BS like that..
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Lukaku the great, Kane, Haaland are already doing it... and better than Ronaldo
They have better per game goal ratio than Ronaldo..
Not only that, Kane shows up way more often than Ronaldo in games that matter..
Kane's stats against WC winning nations: 8 goals in 14 games
Ronaldo's stats against WC winning nations: 7 goals in 35 games
Kane in in WC/EC knock-out stats: 7 goals in 11 games
Ronaldo in EC/WC knock-outs: 3 goals in 19 games (including 0 goals in WC knock-outs)
The difference is nobody hypes up Kane's or Lukaku's stats desparately.. calling them the greatest NT goalscorer and BS like that..
You know Ronaldo is 38 dont you? At 30 he's still banging it in Europe
Not with the NT..
0 MVP award in 5 Euros + 5 Euros
0 goals in 8 WC knock-out games in 5 WCs
3 goals in 19 knock-out games in 5 WCs + 5 Euros
3 goals in 13 games against Americans (US, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Brazil, Ecuador, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay)
7 goals in 35 games against WC winning nations (France, Italy, England, Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, Spain, Germany)
Andorra, Faroe, Lux, Liechtenstein etc. are his best folks, thanks to the Euro qualifiers, they never disappoint.. You do not need to be below 38 to cause substantial damage to such powerhouse nations
You spoiled his little dream, so cruel..
He would definitely be a starter at a top team in Europe that's why he got rejected everywhere and sent to exile in South Africa right after another legendary WC performance
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Yeah right. Zlatan was better at 40 than Ronaldo is at 38, and he was still playing a significant part in one of Europe’s top leagues, not scoring in Saudi and padding out his national team stats against some of the worst sides in Europe.
You spoiled his little dream, so cruel..
He would definitely be a starter at a top team in Europe that's why he got rejected everywhere and sent to exile in South Africa right after another legendary WC performance
I could see him playing for a mid-table team in serie a or la liga at best.
What Zlatan has done at such old age is also admirable. But instead of putting up non-stop criticism, don’t you think the way Ronaldo has done for both his club (outscoring the likes of Benzema, Neymar, Mitrovic, Mahrez, Mane etc) and for his country (outscoring the likes of everyone else in Euro qualifiers, including Haaland, Mbappe and Kane) at 38 years of age, is also admirable? You don’t see many 38 years old doing that at all. The fact you could only mention Zlatan as the only player comparable tells it all.
You are acting like a loss cannon here, keep repeating double standard non sense, and pretending the same doesn’t apply to other players. It’s so cringe to read.Kudos to Ronaldo at 38 for conquering European football with his amazing tap-in skills against powerhouses like Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Bosnia and Slovakia, the whole world was already in awe after his conquest of supersonic Saudi league, and now this. Give him the Ballon D'or..
Such a pity that he missed the game against Luxembourg that Portugal struggled to only win 9-0 breaking their all-time record without him. He was sorely missed.
With the way he is going, I am confident he will finally score his first tap-in a WC knock-out in 2026 at 42 and complete football as the best 42 year old player ever. The world owes him a WC knock-out tap-in
Wouldn't usually ask this but can a mod please threadban this poster. Literally contributing nothing but poorly written wummery to the thread.Kudos to Ronaldo at 38 for conquering European football with his amazing tap-in skills against powerhouses like Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Bosnia and Slovakia, the whole world was already in awe after his conquest of supersonic Saudi league, and now this. Give him the Ballon D'or..
Such a pity that he missed the game against Luxembourg that Portugal struggled to only win 9-0 breaking their all-time record without him. He was sorely missed.
With the way he is going, I am confident he will finally score his first tap-in a WC knock-out in 2026 at 42 and complete football as the best 42 year old player ever. The world owes him a WC knock-out tap-in
No, the truth is I’m not particularly impressed with him bagging goals in the league he’s in while putting penalties away against low quality opposition in Euro qualifiers. You know Lukaku is 2 ahead of him while Scott McTominay is one goal behind? (and really ought to be level after that goal was ruled out against Spain). There are several players who were still offering more at Ronaldo’s age, his old team mate Modric for one is still able to function at a higher level and was able to do it in KO matches at the World Cup too.
And I didn’t say Zlatan was comparable, I’m saying he was flat out better than Ronaldo is now, and not just better, but he was better 2 years further down the line at age 40. I don’t think it’s unjust criticism to point out the flaw in your argument when an even older player was doing the business in a vastly superior league…..
Looks like an apt reply to me.
He writes like a twelve year old hopped up on energy drinks, fresh from a Fortnite marathon. Every message ends with a green smiley ffs.
Not with the NT..
0 MVP award in 5 Euros + 5 Euros
0 goals in 8 WC knock-out games in 5 WCs
3 goals in 19 knock-out games in 5 WCs + 5 Euros
3 goals in 13 games against Americans (US, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Brazil, Ecuador, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay)
7 goals in 35 games against WC winning nations (France, Italy, England, Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, Spain, Germany)
Andorra, Faroe, Lux, Liechtenstein etc. are his best folks, thanks to the Euro qualifiers, they never disappoint.. You do not need to be below 38 to cause substantial damage to such powerhouse nations
“3 goals in 13 games against clubs from the Americas” must be up there as one of most bizarre statistical attempts of all time to disparage a player. Take a tiny step back and ask yourself what the feck is going on in your head to have developed this weird agenda!
That’s patently false. He was much better in his 1st 2 years at Juve than his last 2 years at Madrid if you actually watched his games up close. Benzema certainly wasn’t as good as him in 18/19, 19/20, or 20/21.
The only season Benzema was categorically better was 21/22 and that coincided with Ronaldo playing in a much, much worse team.
Put the Ronaldo at Juve of 2019 that scored all of Juve’s KO goals in the CL (including that sensational hat-trick against Atletico) in Madrid, and they likely win the whole thing. His supporting cast declined quite substantially after he left Madrid.
The only thing you could probably argue is that maybe Vinicius wouldn’t have developed the same since Ronaldo would probably play in his place next to Benzema. For Madrid, it ultimately worked out well. But we can’t ignore the historic dip they had immediately after his departure. They went from scoring 90-100 goals in the league every season to an all-time low of 60 something. His departure was certainly felt for the 1st 2 years.
You’re looking at it very one dimensionally. Ronaldo has like 200-300 more career games than Zlatan despite being years younger. He has factually more games at the highest European level than Zlatan and scored more goals at the highest level.
Heck his career after turning 30 is arguably bigger than Zlatan’s whole career with 75 international goals, 2 Ballon D’ors, 2 CLs, multiple top scorer awards across different leagues.
Not to forget that Zlatan even spent a year or so in the MLS.
So because Zlatan spent 2 seasons largely plagued by injuries on Milan’s bench means he’s been better than Ronaldo at an older age? That’s really nonsensical. Ronaldo absolutely trumps him for longevity and absolute body of work. Physically they aren’t on the same level either. Zlatan hasn’t been able to keep consistently fit since about 2018. In the same period, Ronaldo has played about 250 games and is able to play like every 2-3 days still.
I think you got your stats outdated, as he is currently on 9 goals (after scoring 2 in his recent game) in Euro qualifiers this year, which comes out as joint top goalscorer with Lukaku (also on 9 goals). The rest are on 6 goals (Mbappe, Haaland, Hojlund, Mctominay, Amdouni) and then 5 goals (Kane, Bruno, Masouras).
Anyway, if you think scoring 40 goals in 2023 and topping goalscorer chart everywhere (above many of the game biggest names, including Haaland, Mbappe, Kane, Saka in Euro qualifiers, and Benzema, Neymar, Mahrez, Mitrovic, Mane in Saudi etc) isn’t impressive/admirable at all for a 38 years old player, there nothing else he could do to change your opinion, as you have already made up your mind regardless.
Had a look at the numbers of posts. 50 posts in here. 102 in total. The other 52 are probably about Messi.
Probably a child, there's no point in bothering with it.
This is probably very true. I'll hit the ignore button.
We don’t really have to ignore, just don’t reply or mention it. The guy clearly wants attention.
40 goals scored in 2023, yet not one against decent opposition!
He's not the best 38 year old ever, far from it. He's playing in the Saudi Pro League. Lot's of 38 year olds have played at a much higher level at this point in their career.
Probably for the best, at a bit of a loose end, so I took a look.
Laughs at Ronaldo for scoring against cannon fodder in euro qualifiers, but thinks Messi is great for scoring and passing for goals against worse teams in America.
Pure BS..
At 35-36, Messi won the WC as the MVP, led WC in g&a, was selected as the IFFHS World's Best Playmaker, led Europe in assists along with KDB. big chance creation, dribbles along with Vinicius, won FIFA Best, has highest number of goals & assists in the world, has the highest number of MOTM in whole Europe etc. etc. Ronaldo has not achieved all these in a single year at his peak in his 20s let alone at 35
As for your BS arguments about the WC, see below..
Is that why the supposed CL king Ronaldo has zero goals & assists in 8 knock-out games in the WC, what's going on there?
Is that why he has zero MVP award in an international tournament with NT unlike Modric with Crotia, Forlan with Uruguay etc?
Is that why he was not selected to the official team of the tournament of the WC even once unlike Figo, Maniche, Carvalho who all did that in 2006? Mind you he played in a record 5 WCs unlike these players..
Is that why he could not even reach the level of Stoichkov, Hagi, James Rodriguez and many others who played for above-average NTs and led their teams in a legendary fashion in WCs?
Why did the undisputed CL king score only 3 goals in 19 knock-out stage games in 5 WCs + 5 Euros? Was it too challenging for him to score when away from SAF's United super-team? Was it too hard when he was not surrounded by Real dream-team with Modric, Benzema, Kroos, Marcelo etc.?
I repeat 3 goals in 19 knock-out games in 5 Euros & 5 WCs in 20 years, "three goals"..
Supposedly, he should have broken records in 19 games, right, because if a player does it in the CL, he should automatically be able to do it in the WC/EC yet his WC/EC knock-out stats are beyond embarrassing..
You are talking about "struggle everyday", it seems more like Ronaldo was having a lot of joy in CL rather than having a struggle, it seems more like his struggle was in the WC & ECs, poor guy, 3 goals in 19 knock-out games, Goncalo Ramos just had 3 in his first knock-out game last WC with Portugal
Imagine comparing WC, the greatest tournament of all time in world sports with the CL just to hype up Ronaldo the WC ghost..
Non-stop BS, who cares about your opinion about WC, bitter-little Ronaldo fanboy? As if the football world community cares about what a little boy thinks about WC
Yeah, Ronaldo was that shit, was not even able to do 1% of what Klose did despite playing in 5 WCs, it was too hard for him without SAF and superclubs
Heart of a lion getting rejected everywhere in Europe, benched by the Portuguese in the WC, finding himself in South Africa in his own word, and that was not even a self-imposed exile
Heart of lion getting eliminated by Lyon, Ajax and 10-men Porto from "farmer leagues" with Juve which already played 2 CL finals in 3 years before his arrival..
Your idol can retire when he wins an MVP award in a single NT tournament, or becomes a GOAT level playmaker, or a dribbler or a creator.
He can retire when he wins a record number of Golden Shoes plus Ballon D'ors..
No, no, wait, he does not have to do any of these.... he can actually retire if he manages to score a single goal in a WC knock-out game, I know this is too much to ask for, but I am sure he can do it in 2026 in his 6th WC at 42.. Goncalo Ramos, Leao, Guerreiro or Pepe can teach him how it's done at the knock-out stage
Then there's this, which kind of threw me a little, how could someone who claims to remember the late 80s/early 90s still post such childish drivel.
Wow, that is eye-opening. Obsessive doesn't even cut it! And why does every single post have to have at least one green laughing smiley?!
I want to rise up in righteous newbie solidarity, but once you've seen them the smileys are nigh on impossible to ignore. To hell with you @Pickle85 for pointing it out! You are an enemy to the cause of liberation with your divide and conquer bullshite.
I mean I've nothing against the odd green laughing smiley, but when it's every message...!
You have no idea how badly I wanted to use it now because it's such a fitting reply when you notice it in @Oranges038's post. Many, many laughing green smileys.
No idea. I use them on occasion if sonething is funny, but I generally don't use smileys or emojis.