Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)

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I see a lot of fans advocating for him to be sold (and I do get why). But if he goes he has to be replaced. Maybe the club is holding on to him because they know we can't find a quality replacement in time?

I understand that fully. But this is where you become a big football club. Find a striker and pay the money.
 
You mean, other than the offer his agent says exists, the one where United have to name a transfer fee figure so the other club will pay it? Other than that offer, which is probably Chelsea, yeah, no one's biting.

If it’s Chelsea £70m so we can buy two players :lol:
 
Tuchel ain't a simpleton like Solskjaer, doubt he'll tolerate having a static old sulky tosser like Ronaldo forced on him

Well he ain’t got a striker and likely won’t get one this summer. So he best take him.

Like someone said if he gets sacked, he can get a job at Barca or Arsenal Or Bayern.
 
Tuchel ain't a simpleton like Solskjaer, doubt he'll tolerate having a static old sulky tosser like Ronaldo forced on him
They don’t score enough goals, the ‘sulky old tosser’ scores goals. Tuchel tolerated a lot more issues at PSG before they sacked him.
 
Just out of curiosity, who would you buy? There's a real lack of striker's available in the market right now.

We only need a back up. I’m sure they can find one the level of Jota for instance. Who that is can’t really say. But one has bright ideas until we get linked with someone and all the positives come out.

I think a back up striker and a forward who can play across the three. Covers Ronaldo’s loss. It might be a Danjuma gamble Or Neto.
 
well he seems to have tolerated Lukaku put on him last season ...
The ‘daddy’ remark when Conte went down like a lead balloon. I think it might have even worse ramifications with Ronaldo for obvious reasons. Tuchel seemed intent of fecking Lukaku off from rather early on.
 
We only need a back up. I’m sure they can find one the level of Jota for instance. Who that is can’t really say. But one has bright ideas until we get linked with someone and all the positives come out.

I think a back up striker and a forward who can play across the three. Covers Ronaldo’s loss. It might be a Danjuma gamble Or Neto.
The issue with a signing like this is it lumbers the club with a player that will be surplus in a year or so whilst we continue to show we can’t sell players on.

Jota going to a Liverpool in their current state differs massively from where we are, we aren’t in the position to spend the reported £40mil on a Jota type this Summer.
 
I don’t even get Ronaldo’s stance. So let’s say he moves to a champions league club and are third in the group stage and they drop to the Europa league, then he will refuse to play?
 
No, City were interested too, with Pep admiring him in public if I remember correctly. Then chose us in the end.

Btw, totally agree with his narcissistic side - he has controlled it to some extent here, but you can still see it when looking closely.

Also, to quote the other guy telling me off here, Ronaldo didnt originally come here to be part of a rebuild. We came 2nd, bought Varane+Cavani.. Bruno was great and we looked to be potentially challenging for titles when Ronaldo signed for us. That’s hardly the scenario now, hence I dont see him owing us. i dont buy the premise that we build our team solely around Ronaldo on purpose - albeit he didnt make us better as a team, but mostly worse.

Also with regards to the other poster quoting, it’s just weird fellow fans dictating how other fans should feel about a certain player. Im 35 years old, doing quite good on all fronts. I think I’m quite capable of having my own opinion and being entitled to that.
No one will publicly disrespect him. City probably wanted him for free and on lower wages. They gave it a thought and that is it. We were the only club willing to buy him AND pay his high wages.
 
The issue with a signing like this is it lumbers the club with a player that will be surplus in a year or so whilst we continue to show we can’t sell players on.

Jota going to a Liverpool in their current state differs massively from where we are, we aren’t in the position to spend the reported £40mil on a Jota type this Summer.

I understand that point too and that’s my view with getting these btech midfielders because they are better than McFred. However we have to consider the state of the striker market and it’s unlikely to improve within the next two years anyway. Therefore we can afford to make that gamble and comeback to the issue when it picks up.
 

Honestly just slap a £10m fee on him get his wages off the bill and use the money on a striker like Jonathan David.

Wont be perfect but you’ll have a young athletic pressing forward who has a proven goal scoring record and the right attitude.

There are still very good forward options potentially available for reasonable fees.
 
I understand that point too and that’s my view with getting these btech midfielders because they are better than McFred. However we have to consider the state of the striker market and it’s unlikely to improve within the next two years anyway. Therefore we can afford to make that gamble and comeback to the issue when it picks up.
I had a similar discussion in another thread where a poster was saying we should buy players X & Y from mid-table teams because they’re ‘better than’. Fundamentally it’s the only reason I’m tolerating the FdJ nonsense because he’s genuinely superior which leads to my attacker thoughts, if they aren’t a clear upgrade I’m not sure we should bother.

I know it ‘leaves us short’ but this club struggles so badly to offload players. Look at Minamoto [if that’s how it’s spelt], he’s basically been a money laundering scheme for Pool. Bought, looked meh, had a meh loan spell, comes back looks meh, sold for profit. We’d have given him a bumper contract this Summer.

I can see why we’re so intent on Antony but the fee looks astronomical.
 
I have difficulty understanding this to be honest.

1. He literally had his agent market Ronaldo to all clubs who play in the champions league, didn't show up for pre-season, and showed up with his agent on the day he returned back to the club. The only reason we are not the laughing stock of the Premier League is he made himself a bigger laughing stock by being rejected by every other club he whored himself to. Why is being better than Pogba any bar of measurement ffs?
2.. Yes he scored a bunch of goals but he had the entire team playing for him. I still remember the horror show matches when he couldn't score a goal if he played all night in a brothel. For a considerable stretch of matches, Ronaldo was very poor and he himself is not absolved of any blame from a shambles of a season last time. Threw strops while substituted, and running off to Portugal when he wasn't guaranteed to play are not signs of professionalism. What do you mean he owes us? He didn't play for charity for us, he was drawing a big fecking salary. What is this owing business you speak of?
3. We were far from challenging for honors under OGS and we didn't win a feck ton of trophies after Fergie. He signed up to be a part of a rebuild and now that he got a good coach, he doesn't want to be a part of rebuild anymore?
4. He doesn't have any offer in hand but wants to be released from a two-year contract he signed and he is still drawing wages from us. Granted that he may not suit our pressing style of play under ETH, but ETH maintains that he can play with Ronaldo. His job is to turn up for preseason even if he wants to engineer a move.

There are plenty of reasons to be angry at Ronaldo. Sure, there are posters who follow a particular player and no amount of sane arguments with people like MrEleson on this thread is going to achieve anything, but just don't expect regular fans of United not be angry at Ronaldo.

It's called man love. When you are so in love with Ronaldo, you are willing to take all sorts of emotional abuse and yet not recognise it for what it is. And instead rationalise his actions.

United > Ronaldo.
 
It can be argued that him joining Chelsea could actually weaken them. He will score more goals than anyone else in the squad but they'll collectively score less and be worse than last season. Let him go where he wants.

I will bet that if he joins Chelsea, tuchel will be sacked before the end of the season.
 
Imagine the club wins and he stays, in UCL group games Messi gets on the scoresheet, what do you guys think is attitude would be like in the dressing?
 
Why are you so sure it's Chelsea? It's already been reported that Tuchel has no interest in signing him

Boehly has not been able to bring in the targets that he/Tuchel had wanted in his first go as the DOF. He will start to get insecure or nervous now and will try and get a big name to (over)compensate for the two losses.

Ronaldo is an easy get -- it is only a matter of a few million quid. Quick easy win,

A great symbol for the new regime and era as far as he is concerned -- bring in millions of additional followers to the Chelsea social media platforms and bring it up a notch in the global standings, fan-wise.

It makes perfect sense/opportunity for a newbie, American owner's perspective
 
We've gone from the days of Ferguson selling players at their peak like Ince, Kanchelskis, Stam, Beckham and Van Nistlerooy to us keeping hold of a 37 year old egomaniac. Embarassing.

Why is it again embarrassing for you? Clearly, the management is trying to extract some transfer fee for the disloyal cnut? They paid Juve 14 million quid.

Surely you are bright enough to understand that. Or are we wrong to assume that?
 
I don’t even get Ronaldo’s stance. So let’s say he moves to a champions league club and are third in the group stage and they drop to the Europa league, then he will refuse to play?
That's a really good point. He sees himself in the CL final, not getting knocked out by FC Midtjylland. This would be even more hilarious if he goes to a club in the CL and they go out at the first hurdle.
 
I don't think the loan thing is true, or rather hope not because of how low it would mean they think of us. It would be blatantly using us as a safety net. He already gave someone else his best years and came back diminished when his options were drying up, a loan would be taking that to the next level.

If it's a loan we might as well just be looking at mutual termination with Ronaldo ceding the rest of his wages. Of course he won't want that because he won't find anywhere close to the same salary. Giving up on a fee to facilitate a move is a big enough favour, any arrangement that has us both giving up a fee and paying his wages to go play elsewhere would be disgusting. Don't even bring it up Mendes.
 
I don't think the loan thing is true, or rather hope not because of how low it would mean they think of us. It would be blatantly using us as a safety net. He already gave someone else his best years and came back diminished when his options were drying up, a loan would be taking that to the next level.

If it's a loan we might as well just be looking at mutual termination with Ronaldo ceding the rest of his wages. Of course he won't want that because he won't find anywhere close to the same salary. Giving up on a fee to facilitate a move is a big enough favour, any arrangement that has us both giving up a fee and paying his wages to go play elsewhere would be disgusting. Don't even bring it up Mendes.

If he wants to move to another club, we need to get a fee. It sets bad precedence that a United player can demand the move by asking the club to let him go at no cost to the player and the financial burden is carried by the club.
If he is so desperate to move then the club should get a fee regardless -- and if he is so desperate, he should take a cut in his current wages to compensate for the transfer fee.
 
I don’t even get Ronaldo’s stance. So let’s say he moves to a champions league club and are third in the group stage and they drop to the Europa league, then he will refuse to play?
I agree. It stopped making sense when it became clear the tier 1 CL contenders don't want him. Leaving for a non-contender would be pretty much leaving just to play the 6 group games. He might not want to move to such a smaller club on a permanent basis so I'm just hoping he doesn't expect to return or have us loan him.
 
If he wants to move to another club, we need to get a fee. It sets bad precedence that a United player can demand the move by asking the club to let him go at no cost to the player and the financial burden is carried by the club.
If he is so desperate to move then the club should get a fee regardless -- and if he is so desperate, he should take a cut in his current wages to compensate for the transfer fee.
At this point asking for a fee might be the same as no transfer. It seems no one wants him if they have to pay. In any case Ronaldo should be ceding his wages for the last year of his deal with or without a fee, that's the minimum sacrifice he should expect if he wants a move. Can't eat it and have it. No one wants to pay him that much and we sure as hell shouldn't have to pay anything towards a transfer we are basically being forced into.
 
You'd think the most followed human on social media....who isn't short of a few quid could buy himself out of his contract and go make a romantic return at Sporting Lisbon if his sole ambition is to play in the CL.

I truly can't see any reason why Ten Hag would want him, especially after this summer's circus act. He's already been undermined and if retained it will only get worse and a new virus will spread in the dressing room.

I'd be all up for the club to release him and using the Woodward in transfer idiocy shocker angle for PR purposes.
 
Ronaldo with a 15m-20m transfer tag attached to him is not worth the effort especially considering the high salary bill. However things change as a free transfer. In that case I can see the likes of Bayern or Chelsea being interested especially since most of his salary would be absorbed through sponsors. I am expecting Ronaldo to throw one hell of a hissy fit to try and force the club to release him
 
The most annoying parts of this thread is that the hardcore Ronaldo fans here keep saying every player in our team is shit except Ronaldo.
We've gone from the days of Ferguson selling players at their peak like Ince, Kanchelskis, Stam, Beckham and Van Nistlerooy to us keeping hold of a 37 year old egomaniac. Embarassing.
Exactly.
 
Why are people believing Custis? This is the same guy who thought we were getting Antony for 40m a month ago.
 
At this point asking for a fee might be the same as no transfer. It seems no one wants him if they have to pay. In any case Ronaldo should be ceding his wages for the last year of his deal with or without a fee, that's the minimum sacrifice he should expect if he wants a move. Can't eat it and have it. No one wants to pay him that much and we sure as hell shouldn't have to pay anything towards a transfer we are basically being forced into.

I suspect Mendes has a club on-hook but is unwilling to say mention -- so that, any financial cost will not come out of Ronaldo's wages.

I suspect it's either Sporting for a homecoming/marketing purpose to Chelsea because Boehly wants to make a major splash or announcement that he has arrived.

He's been training at the SL facilities the past month or so -- wouldn't surprise me if they has some behind closed doors games too.

If it's Chelsea we need to extract as much as possible since we are in the same league. (But I am bet Tuchel will be sacked before the end of next season.)
 
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