I can't believe SAF still humours this prick. Didn't realise that 'No player is bigger than the club' came with exceptions.
Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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I think he and Mendes want us to give our “blessing” to let him go — in other words, forego any transfer fee and help facilitate a move as best we can. As it stands only Atletico are truly interested and I doubt they’ll do a transfer fee + his current wage if they are going to go for him. They’ll want him on a free, or as close to as possible
Why would it be easy? There also is an obligation to buy.
I thought they had some deal with Barca where they had to buy him? Imagine Atleti and Barca getting into it
It has been easy for you to call other players as unprofessional based on newspaper reports, just not Ronaldo. Just wondering if you even realise that.
Feck doing Atletico and their anti-football a favour. That spectacle at Old Trafford last season was an utter disgrace from them. I wouldn't entertain doing any business with them.
They have an option, not an obligation apparently. The irony is if they send Griezmann back Barca will be truly fecked as they cannot afford his wages. Might not be able to register their new signings.I thought they had some deal with Barca where they had to buy him? Imagine Atleti and Barca getting into it
You make a solid point!
I was thinking more along the lines of staying away from signings that might cause issue (di maria, ronaldo etc). Just ones that we create a rod for ourselves really.
Was the director of football there today?
Griezmann going to Barcelona ended up in a tedious court case first time round, I doubt there’s anything left to chanceI thought they had some deal with Barca where they had to buy him? Imagine Atleti and Barca getting into it
Absolutely. But it’s either that or keep a stroppy old striker who thinks he’s bigger than the club for the first season of the brand new manager…
That's how I read the situation as well. Hope the club stands firm and says NO. You want to leave, get us our transfer fee, or sit your ass down and do your job. After dragging this situation out into the public, I would have no mercy. We don't need this. I would make him suffer in a World Cup year. In the meantime, we go on with our business and training. The longer he faffs about, the longer it takes for him to be match fit.- again in a World Cup year. His choice.
We can always send him away from the first team if he pulls any shit. Again, it's the World Cup coming up. What's he gonna do? Sit on his ass when he needs match fitness?
Can't see any other logical solution than him getting on with it if there are no takers willing to give United a proper deal for him to go.
I hate the fact it’s being described as ‘negotiations’.
Why is it different to other players?
He wants to move, fine, another team makes an offer United will accept, and off he goes,
His desire to play in the Champions League elsewhere, or secure his legacy is not relevant to United,
and should not be funded by United.
He wants to move, fine, another team makes an offer United will accept, and off he goes,
His desire to play in the Champions League elsewhere, or secure his legacy is not relevant to United,
and should not be funded by United.
Wait so you’re now refusing to do business with a team… because they beat us fair and square?
Just speculating (so don't shoot me).
It's not unthinkable that Mendes wants United to - say - yield on the current contract terms to some extent.
For instance: we agree to terminate the contract but on favourable terms to Ronaldo: as in, he gets some kind of severance deal, which means that he can accept a pay cut at his new club without losing too much money.
Hypothetically: should we yield?
On the one hand, I would very much like to see United playing hard ball here: if you want out, fine. But we're not paying for it.
On the other hand, I would very much like to escape a scenario where we get stuck with Ronaldo.
(Yeah, yeah - a Ronaldo who doesn't want to be here, but frankly I just want him gone: the scenario in which he stays and becomes a grand success under ETH strikes me as a fantasy.)
It's not unthinkable that Mendes wants United to - say - yield on the current contract terms to some extent.
For instance: we agree to terminate the contract but on favourable terms to Ronaldo: as in, he gets some kind of severance deal, which means that he can accept a pay cut at his new club without losing too much money.
Hypothetically: should we yield?
On the one hand, I would very much like to see United playing hard ball here: if you want out, fine. But we're not paying for it.
On the other hand, I would very much like to escape a scenario where we get stuck with Ronaldo.
(Yeah, yeah - a Ronaldo who doesn't want to be here, but frankly I just want him gone: the scenario in which he stays and becomes a grand success under ETH strikes me as a fantasy.)
You can't sometimes predict issues. Take Di Maria as an example, he is a fairly uncontroversial and discreet player that hasn't caused issues in other places, if what he says is true and that his main issue was that LVG would constantly be on his back and only highlight the negatives without ever being positive towards him then you can understand why he got fed up. Keep in mind that he had no issue with maniacs like Jorge Jesus, prime Mourinho and Tuchel.
If he is open to a contract termination, then we should do it. It would presumably save money over keeping him here for another year. Treat it as sunk cost.
Like it or not, Ronaldo is a marketable asset. We are not Iran or Saudi Arabia ffs. It's in our best interest to integrate Ronaldo if he stays and if he wishes to leave, we need to work that to our advantage and get money/replacement. Whatever the case, at least the public posture of the club is that Ronaldo is not for sale and ETH has backed the same and has parroted the line that Ronaldo is important to his plans. Best to take it at face value, whether it is the truth or a marketing ploy to get a fee for Ronaldo's sale.
It definitely leaves a bad taste if we have to let Ronaldo leave and subsidize his wages to play for someone else or even rip up his contract to let him go on free. But ultimately, we'll have to trust the club to make a good decision on this based on the financial numbers because it hardly makes any sense to have someone who's being paid about half a million dollars a week to do nothing. Who knows? ETH may have a way to play him in the team and maximize his outputs.
It definitely leaves a bad taste if we have to let Ronaldo leave and subsidize his wages to play for someone else or even rip up his contract to let him go on free. But ultimately, we'll have to trust the club to make a good decision on this based on the financial numbers because it hardly makes any sense to have someone who's being paid about half a million dollars a week to do nothing. Who knows? ETH may have a way to play him in the team and maximize his outputs.
Yes - if it's simply a contract termination, mutually agreed, perfect.
What I fear, though, is that he's after some kind of compensation: realistically, he won't be paid as well as he is per now anywhere (unless he goes to the Saudi league, which he won't) - and if he thinks that's important, well...there you go.
I mean, it would be the absolute height of...I don't even know what to call it...if he expects United to effectively cover the difference (in salary), but then again I wouldn't be shocked.
Honestly though, if no one wants him he's got no choice. The club can't take another stance if there's legitimately no buyer so he'll be stuck between a rock and a hard place
FFS, just get Ronaldo taken out like in the godfather so we can move on with football instead of this clownery!
Are you suggesting we should pay Ronaldo to leave and effectively subsidise his wages so he can go and play for a “better” club who might win some trophies this year?
feck off Ronnie. You got enough money to turn down 250M from Saudi Arabia. Just pay Atleti if you're that desperate.
Agreed.
Yes, I even highlighted the bit where you seemed to suggest it.
I so don't want him to go in Bayern. He will win trophies there and score at least 20 goals in league (who wouldn't?). Prick doesn't deserve that. He deserves Atletico.
But, did he train?
feck off Ronnie. You got enough money to turn down 250M from Saudi Arabia. Just pay Atleti if you're that desperate.
Feck off.. we want you out now.
Renew his contract? He's got a year left, why would it need renewing?
The club should, and hopefully would, tell Mendes and Ronaldo to feck off! Granting a free transfer is one thing but giving him a severance package when it’s him that’s asking to leave would be insanity.
feck off Ronnie. You got enough money to turn down 250M from Saudi Arabia. Just pay Atleti if you're that desperate.
That can't be true, this need to not miss one year of UCL football not sure if it's something to be admired or just a bit weird
So he can come back and play for us in a years time if we're back in the UCL. It's all he cares about
I was talking about a hypothetical scenario (obviously).
Read the whole post again.
Nah he sat in the corner watching Paw Patrol while Jorge sorted his next activities.
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