Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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The point is, they came off a season of scoring 86 goals, added him to the team, then proceeded to score a lot less. Again, it's not about attributing 100% blame on him, rather it's about looking at the wider picture and the possible impact he has on the team as a whole. And looking at how you can't simply just slot him into a teams structure, but you have to change that structure to accomodate him and then ask "what impact is this actually having holistically"
But Madrid scored less goals immediately after he left. Significantly less. Juve scored around the average they normally score every season when Ronaldo was there. 17/18 was just an anomalous year.
He only gives a feck about his own stats, it is hilarious there are people that still think he cares a tiny bit about this club.
So not only did they score less goals the season he arrived, they also didn't improve on their average. Not much of an argument for Ronaldo.
As for the Madrid point. Look, he was obviously superb for Madrid in a team that was simply built around one man: him. My point is about how slotting this current incarnation of Ronaldo into a team could affect the team as a whole as you can't just simply expect him to seamlessly fit into that teams structure. Ergo, the question has to be asked, is having him in the team actually a benefit as a WHOLE. And not simply looking at his personal goals.
Considering Bayern are built around servicing Lewandowski (Bayern fans can probably attest to this), they really wouldn’t have to do much restructuring to fit him in. He’d slot right in tbh. The only argument that you can have against him is pressing and Lewandowski’s stats indicates he’s not a pressing monster either.
Not sure I agree with this, to be honest. Think it would be a bad move for Bayern. Although, I hope they go for it and take him off our hands.
We are talking about biggest drama queen in history of football here. Him on the bench means "i am injured next game and i am going to Portugal to cry to my mom".
And he is not great goalscorer anymore. He is good finisher yes but as a no9 he is luxury player. He will not press or play as a team player.
Our best chance and hope is that he fecks off. I would rather give a chance to Garnacho or Bruno on striker position than this fecking prick
Football is not all about goals. Ronaldo scores goals but offers little else. Reminds me of the debate about RVN and Luis Saha and we looked so much better with Saha despite all of RVN’s goals.
Dropping a hard X on Ronaldo like a savage..
Look at those two, they are mocking the great Ronaldo.
How dumber are all these ITKs and influencers going to look after Bayern dont sign him ?
Not much because they appear right at the physical limit.
Not much because they appear right at the physical limit.
Bayern are too sensible to do silly things
we are gonna be stuck with a sulking ronaldo arent we..
Wouldn't be surprised if ETH drops him.
Ronaldo's equity at this club has run down alot this summer.
Ten Hags first big test, how he deals with Ronaldo.
We can drop Ronaldo easily now. He was the one who didn't want to be part of this team. To the bench you go then.
Agreed. They should have only gone public if they had a guarantee that a bid was coming.
I can only assume Mendes spoke to Chelsea, Boehly was keen and they jumped the gun thinking Tuchel would have no say. Quite amateurish considering how experienced Mendes is.
I can only think Ronaldo swallowed his own kool aid: He just assumed that if he was on the market people would come in. After all he's the greatest in the world, right? Who wouldn't want him?
This summer has probably been a bit of a wake up call to Cristiano about his current status. He may well yet get a move but he's having to beg and scrape for it. People aren't queuing up around the block any longer.
At this point, there is really no need to argue with the various statistics. When the team has players challenging the captaincy, it ruins the whole team spirit and togetherness. When he was substituted for whatever reason, he reacted so ridiculously, he compromise the authority of the manager and disrespect the other players. When he was not named for match squad, he went to Portugal.
Let’s face it. His transfer has been proved an emphatic failure to the team overall. Now, it looks like he will stay. I don’t know how ETH handles his ego but the board and the players should stand behind ETH no matter what he decided to do.
Let’s face it. His transfer has been proved an emphatic failure to the team overall. Now, it looks like he will stay. I don’t know how ETH handles his ego but the board and the players should stand behind ETH no matter what he decided to do.
Ronaldo just embarrassed himself, you'll think a player would have an offer on the table before demanding a transfer request.
I'm still hoping someone come in for him though, maybe a Newcastle?
I'm still hoping someone come in for him though, maybe a Newcastle?
It was very obvious, especially when you have watched him in the last 6 years or so. Only Ole and Ed would be stupid enough to believe there could have been a happy end...
I hope he's professional if he does come back into the team and doesn't throw a strop and use the season to train alone for (probably) his last World Cup. He'll only be playing one match per week at United; it would work well for him to give his best and stay sharp for Qatar.
People talk about his champions league legacy but he and Messi still have a world cup to compete for.
People talk about his champions league legacy but he and Messi still have a world cup to compete for.
-Spartak MoscowBloody hell, they can pipe down.
They might have a chance of him in another decade maybe
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Oh I see what you did here
The good thing to come out of all this is it gives us a lot of power over Ronaldo. ETH can drop Ronaldo easily now without it becoming a huge deal and if Ronaldo throws a tantrum, well, he knows it's either accept the bench or it's back to Sporting or Saudi.
What people mean under "drop him", if ETH has any sense, Ronaldo cant be around squad, period. Send him away, because he shouldnt be dropped to reserves but thinking that he will be positive to squad, thats just mental.
Yeah right.
ETH hasn't been able to drop the disaster that Harry Maguire is going so far to retain him as his captain. Do you really think he has the balls to drop Ronaldo?
Well it's not like he has any options. Whether he likes it or not if he's dropped he's going nowhere except back to Sporting, he'll have to fix up.
No major club in world football wants to go near him.
If he's dropped/benched/substituted he'll make (or the media will make) a huge fuss about it. Especially if results aren't going well.
No one can take you seriously regarding Cristiano. You're obviously extremely biased towards him and understandably so.
Real's problem was also the manager. Under Zidane and Ancelotti, they have had alot of success with and without Ronaldo.
Still reckon he's nailed on to leave.
He's holding out for a Bayern or PSG type club still, but will lower that as the window goes on just to get out if needs be imo.
He's holding out for a Bayern or PSG type club still, but will lower that as the window goes on just to get out if needs be imo.
Yeah it probably partially was but they had Zidane for the entirety of the 19/20 and had to remodel their entire game to accommodate for the loss of Ronaldo’s goals. For the first time, they prioritised defense and conceded the least amount of goals they had ever conceded in probably decades which led them to the la liga title as they simply couldn’t score the same volume of goals as previous sides. They weren’t a better team for it (see how easily City dispatched them in the CL) but were fortunate their competition were also in transition (Atletico & Barca).
Doesn’t seem as dismissive as his previous statements
It’s been denied by Oliver Kahn twice, by Hasan Salihamidzic once and by Naglesmann once. Seems pretty emphatic, it’s not happening.
Yep. Agreed on all counts. It's an acrimonious end, all of Ronaldo's making.
Is that really the case? Even when he flew back to Portugal after being told he wasn't starting against City?
Agreed.
Clubs and staff tend to be 100% honest in everything they say ever.
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