Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)

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Forget the obvious drama that surrounds CR7 if he is ever substituted or doesn't automatically start a game irrespective of the slumps in his form very understandably due to his age.. With Martial at the tip of the spear Bruno, Sancho and Marcus just seem to be having a better chemistry with each other on the pitch. It isn't 'Look for Ronaldo' every time United are in the final third. There is more variance and unpredictability to our play which over the course of the season will yield better results. Signing him last season was a mistake. Really hope he leaves.
 
If I was Ronaldo, I'd look to build up fitness in such a way that I peak at WC. The WC is his last chance to flip the Messi v Ronaldo debate. He needs to both win the WC and be a key contributor.
This would involve Ronaldo playing fewer matches this season, just enough to remain match fit, but not be exhausted. The current United team is perfect for him to do that. Play 90 mins every couple of weeks with an occasional 15 minute sub appearance here and there.
He should know that his namesake won the 2002 Balon d'Or purely on what he did during the WC.
 
If I was Ronaldo, I'd look to build up fitness in such a way that I peak at WC. The WC is his last chance to flip the Messi v Ronaldo debate. He needs to both win the WC and be a key contributor.
This would involve Ronaldo playing fewer matches this season, just enough to remain match fit, but not be exhausted. The current United team is perfect for him to do that. Play 90 mins every couple of weeks with an occasional 15 minute sub appearance here and there.
He should know that his namesake won the 2002 Balon d'Or purely on what he did during the WC.
Let’s face it Portugal ain’t winning the WC. No matter how good Ronaldo does during the tournament, they aren’t strong enough.
 
Bayern would be as ideal a solution as we could hope for now wouldn’t it?
Get rid of an expensive, unhappy player and he won’t play against us this season.
 
If I was Ronaldo, I'd look to build up fitness in such a way that I peak at WC. The WC is his last chance to flip the Messi v Ronaldo debate. He needs to both win the WC and be a key contributor.
This would involve Ronaldo playing fewer matches this season, just enough to remain match fit, but not be exhausted. The current United team is perfect for him to do that. Play 90 mins every couple of weeks with an occasional 15 minute sub appearance here and there.
He should know that his namesake won the 2002 Balon d'Or purely on what he did during the WC.
Stuff like this makes no sense to me at all. They’ve had careers of almost 2 decades each that we can judge them off. Starring at and winning a World Cup at 37 years of age isn’t going change the fact that Messi is better than him at football.
 
If Lewandowski leaves I think Bayern might be interested in a short-team deal. I did not believe Ronaldo will play in Europa league after the end of last season and I still think so. He knows he might have atmost another 1-2 years , after which no big team will be even interested in him. So he will move to a CL club even if it meant less money.
With him , Martial and Rashford , we dont have to buy a striker but with Ronaldo gone we might have to buy someone this window. Best case for the club would be to keep Ronaldo this year and buy Kane next season.
 
Stuff like this makes no sense to me at all. They’ve had careers of almost 2 decades each that we can judge them off. Starring at and winning a World Cup at 37 years of age isn’t going change the fact that Messi is better than him at football.
Its the same as Platini vs Maradona debate in the 80s. Prior to WC '86 both were considered in the same tier of greatness. The '86 WC completely skewed that around. Today Platini is considered at least a level below, despite having a godly '84 Euro and decent '86 WC. He was also a key player in the great Juve team of the 80s.
If CR7 wins the WC as a key player then within 4-5 years after retirement people will look at him as the greater player.
 
Its the same as Platini vs Maradona debate in the 80s. Prior to WC '86 both were considered in the same tier of greatness. The '86 WC completely skewed that around. Today Platini is considered at least a level below, despite having a godly '84 Euro and decent '86 WC. He was also a key player in the great Juve team of the 80s.
If CR7 wins the WC as a key player then within 4-5 years after retirement people will look at him as the greater player.
I wasn’t even born in the 80s but if it’s really true that 6 games in a summer tournament is the reason Maradona is considered a level above Platini then that seems like an absolute travesty.
 
Let’s face it Portugal ain’t winning the WC. No matter how good Ronaldo does during the tournament, they aren’t strong enough.
They are definitely dark horses.
World Class: Dias, Cancelo
Very good: Pepe, Ronaldo, B Silva, Fernandes
Good: Patricio, Mendes, Palhinha, Neves, A Silva, Jota, Leao
 
Bayern is the only realistic club left, and it makes sense really,

Replacing a world class forward, with another is a no brainer really.

Will they want to fork out that kind of money though?
 
Its the same as Platini vs Maradona debate in the 80s. Prior to WC '86 both were considered in the same tier of greatness. The '86 WC completely skewed that around. Today Platini is considered at least a level below, despite having a godly '84 Euro and decent '86 WC. He was also a key player in the great Juve team of the 80s.
If CR7 wins the WC as a key player then within 4-5 years after retirement people will look at him as the greater player.

Platini and Maradona were like carbon copies in terms of what they could do on the pitch, elite level playmaking, technique, passing, creativity plus goal scoring though Maradona had a clear edge in terms of dribbling..

Ronaldo is not comparable to Messi, Platini or Maradona in terms of playmaking, technique level, dribbling etc. is way inferior in all these aspects other than goal scoring in which he is obviously better than Platini, Maradona but on par with Messi..
 
They are definitely dark horses.
World Class: Dias, Cancelo
Very good: Pepe, Ronaldo, B Silva, Fernandes
Good: Patricio, Mendes, Palhinha, Neves, A Silva, Jota, Leao
Got to put Bernardo up in world class and drop Dias down one.
 
I wasn’t even born in the 80s but if it’s really true that 6 games in a summer tournament is the reason Maradona is considered a level above Platini then that seems like an absolute travesty.
Maradona was great ... its just that his legend became even greater after the 86 world cup. Platini was considered in his peer group till the 86 WC.
 
Would be hilarious if the actually does make the move to Bayern, and they end up breaking the Bundesliga winning streak :lol:
 
If Lewandowski leaves I think Bayern might be interested in a short-team deal. I did not believe Ronaldo will play in Europa league after the end of last season and I still think so. He knows he might have atmost another 1-2 years , after which no big team will be even interested in him. So he will move to a CL club even if it meant less money.
With him , Martial and Rashford , we dont have to buy a striker but with Ronaldo gone we might have to buy someone this window. Best case for the club would be to keep Ronaldo this year and buy Kane next season.

He'll get to see so many new stadiums. And I'm sure, there are lots of Ronaldo fans in Plovdiv, Tbilisi, or Archangelsk who'd love to finally see him on their turf.
 
They are definitely dark horses.
World Class: Dias, Cancelo
Very good: Pepe, Ronaldo, B Silva, Fernandes
Good: Patricio, Mendes, Palhinha, Neves, A Silva, Jota, Leao

But as a team, what are they like? Listing individuals in 'tiers' means little on its own when you look at some of the squads that have crashed and burned at World Cups previous. Having said that, I don't follow Portugal NT so perhaps they are a good team as well as talented individuals.
 
How is he shite though? Everything he did last season proves to be the contrary unless we were both watching different sports. If anything, he did better than expected considering the dross around him.

Watch the dross do miles better again this season without him. Useless/horrible signing from a squad building perspective. Nobody with any sense in the CL would even take him on a free at this point. Heres hoping the Bayern rumours are true. I think they are too smart but who knows
 
I want him gone. All he is going to do if he stays is derail another promising season. Goals here and there won't amount to much when we are losing and drawing every other game. We shouldn't have signed him to begin with, and this is our chance to make it right.
My sentiments exactly. Have nothing against him (on the contrary I adored him), I don't even blame him for wanting to leave but he does make us a worse off team. How fans miss that is beyond me really.
 
Would be hilarious if the actually does make the move to Bayern, and they end up breaking the Bundesliga winning streak :lol:
Now why would Bayern risk that :lol: Just look at reactions from the Bayern fans in this forum, they would not touch him with a 50 foot pole. He is going to stay at United,you guys should have given him for free to Chelsea when you had the chance to
 
I could see Bayern signing him.

Unless they play Mane or Gnabry upfront, there’s not an obvious #9 on the market. A year of Ronaldo then re-assess the market.
 
Its the same as Platini vs Maradona debate in the 80s. Prior to WC '86 both were considered in the same tier of greatness. The '86 WC completely skewed that around. Today Platini is considered at least a level below, despite having a godly '84 Euro and decent '86 WC. He was also a key player in the great Juve team of the 80s.
If CR7 wins the WC as a key player then within 4-5 years after retirement people will look at him as the greater player.
Platini was NEVER as good as Maradona with or without Mexico 86. Fullstop.
 
if Bayern get him on low wages, his impact off the pitch alone is worth it for them.

They don’t operate like that though. If the player doesn’t fit in the with the philosophy and style of play of the club and manager they won’t do it. Mane fits in perfectly albeit not a traditional #9.
 
Ronaldo to Bayern seems like a very un-Bayern like move.
It absolutely is an anti-Bayern move, as their own CEO implied, but I could see it happening as a marriage of convenience for one season.

He'd get to pad his trophy case and scoring record with success in yet another top, but less demanding, league while Bayern would be able to field a team capable of winning another CL title.

If the rumors that he'd be willing to take a big paycut then I could see them biting if it doesn't break their wage structure. They could easily justify it to their fans and it would be a PR boon for the Bundesliga as a whole.

I feel like Mendes will exhaust every single option to get him there by windows end and I think Bayern could well end up coming to the conclusion that it would be worth it for one season coming off the back of losing arguably their greatest striker ever in Lewandowski.

Just hope that we could get a decent fee if that ends up being the case. We'd definitely be better off starting the new era with a fresh/clean slate by binning him off
 
I think if Bayern said they would have him for a year, he would go there for free. He wants those records and those titles. He will only want the token value to keep up the appearance that he is still worth that amount. I think clauses and signing on fees he would totally disregard.

It’s a chance to put Messi out of touch for the goal record, a chance to add a free Bundesliga to his collection and Bayern get a big name rep for Lewandowski.

I mean, they will win the league regardless, so why not?

Poor Mane though, finally getting out of the frustrating shadow of a selfish Salah, then….
 
Yea Mane would be the big loser there. He'd maybe get to win another CL title but he's been set to finally be the main man for an elite European side for the first time only to have the biggest ego in world sport arrive with its own gravitational pull all of a sudden put an end to that quickly :lol:

Even the tactical fit would be awkward for Nagelsmann given how fluid their front line would be sans Lewadowski but he'd still be an easy bet to bang in at least 20-25 in the league
 
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